And the reason for so many line breaks is....

[ickypimp]

a chipped tip ring liner :cry:

Last time i went night fishing i snapped the line 3 times in 3 casts, but on the retrieve not the cast, i was pulling on the rod to break out the grip wires and as soon as i put any kind of pressure on the line it would just go... looking at my rod tonight and the tip ring liner has a big chip out of it , sharp as a knife every time i lifted the rod tip it sliced the line...

3 rigs 3 shock leaders 3 6oz leads....lost more terminal tackle that night than i did in the last 6 months...

hoping to fix it sunday before i fish... back on 2 rods then...

[shetjan]

had the same problem many times on the rocks - fit a diamite tip ring - sorted for good.

[philtherod]

Why fit a ring from the 1960's on a 21st century rod? It slows recovery speed on a light blank, which means you have to hit the rod harder to achieve the same distance as with the fitted lightweight ring. SWW do an extratough ZrC TIP RING in sizes from 10F4.0 upwards, i've been fitting them on rods since 2004, haven't had one back yet!!
ptr

[shetjan]

who are sww? i have had 4 assorted lined rings broken in the last year, usually falling on the rocks - ruins the session - various types from standard fuji and alconites- why not just fit a ring that doesnt break?

any information on a lined tip ring that doesnt break gratefully received phil, but i dont really think the weight is a huge issue - on an average 6 ounce beachcater i woudl be suprised if its more than a couple of grammes - certainly didnt notice any change on my match rods when the fuji alconites broke and i fitted diamites.

[JimmyC]

Ickypimp, if your fitting it to your "favourite" rod I wouldnt worry about the slight extra weight of the tip ring.
It is NOT a delicate match tip.

Jim

[ickypimp]

nah it aint my fave rod, it is my "lob a big bait out 25 yards and leave it there in the hope of a big ass bass" rod, the rod is getting replaced sunday anyway with a 14 foot surf rod to pair with my axellerator surf but i will put a new tip ring on anyhow for the sake of £3.50

[BillyFISHING]

Would some one please put some pictures on the thread on how to change a tip ring,:wiggle: want to change one money a t short at the moment can not afford a new tip.

[Issy]

Would some one please put some pictures on the thread on how to change a tip ring,:wiggle: want to change one money a t short at the moment can not afford a new tip.
I took mine into local tackle shop and he changed it there and then and charged me £3, the price of the ring, best way to do it, I had no trouble changing it :wiggle:

[BillyFISHING]

Thanks for that issy.

I am landlocked in Doncaster surrounded by Fresh water tackle shops and although they do rod repairs the ones i have made contact with do not repair Sea Rods.

I will keep looking thanks.

[ickypimp]

Thanks for that issy.

I am landlocked in Doncaster surrounded by Fresh water tackle shops and although they do rod repairs the ones i have made contact with do not repair Sea Rods.

I will keep looking thanks.

get it done the next time you go to the coast...

[fishyrob]

Thanks for that issy.

I am landlocked in Doncaster surrounded by Fresh water tackle shops and although they do rod repairs the ones i have made contact with do not repair Sea Rods.

I will keep looking thanks.

Hey Billy. Take it into the freshwater shops. If it is reasonably modern, it will be possibly a similar diameter to their stock of carp rod tips. And changing a tip on a freshwater rod is the same technique/tools as a saltwater rod, to the best of my knowledge!

Icky, hope you sorted it out. That sort of problem could cost you fish..... ;)

[whopper]

Why fit a ring from the 1960's on a 21st century rod? It slows recovery speed on a light blank, which means you have to hit the rod harder to achieve the same distance as with the fitted lightweight ring. SWW do an extratough ZrC TIP RING in sizes from 10F4.0 upwards, i've been fitting them on rods since 2004, haven't had one back yet!!
ptr

I took this advice from phil a year or so ago. the zirc tip that i got through phil is Ace! Really light but tough a ****. The man knows what hes talking about:)

[Fisherdan32]

same thing happend to me on my first beachcaster, although it wasnt sharp enough to cut through the line it just made it fray... tackle shop put a better tip on it for free though :)

[mick2786]

Billy

Try these links not exactly sea fishing but the general idea for rod building is roughly the same across all fishing. If re-building or starting from new rod companies are normaly quit helpful and will give you intermediate spacings for guides dependant on the rod lenght. Hope this helps.

http://www.guidesnblanks.com/tips.php

http://www.hopkinsholloway.co.uk/tutorial13.php

Mick2786

[rcamilleri]

Just a quick point about pulling out of snags. I had a similar problem and was told to always avoid putting excessive pressure on the rod. If the snag doesn't pull out with the first pull, stop and point the rod so the line runs straight through then walk backwards giving the rod a tug evry now and then. That way you avoid pressure on the tip ring which very quickly cuts grooves in the rings. I also found that this method often allowed me to release from the snag without breaking any line because you have more control over the pressure applied.

[fishyrob]

Just a quick point about pulling out of snags. I had a similar problem and was told to always avoid putting excessive pressure on the rod. If the snag doesn't pull out with the first pull, stop and point the rod so the line runs straight through then walk backwards giving the rod a tug evry now and then. That way you avoid pressure on the tip ring which very quickly cuts grooves in the rings. I also found that this method often allowed me to release from the snag without breaking any line because you have more control over the pressure applied.

Excellent advice you were given, with two other advises. When doing this, find a bit of driftwood or metal bar to wind the line on, otherwise all the constrictive pressure is on the spool of the reel. Not such a prblem nowadays, as most spools can handle it, but in case there are any anglers out there fishing with Mitchell 602AP's, this does break the spools!
Second point would be dont use this technique if snagged only a short distance out. I have seen tackle catapult back at lighning speed like this, and have personally taken a two ounce lead in the head from carp fishing when pulling for a break in this way!

[JudgeP]

.... but in case there are any anglers out there fishing with Mitchell 602AP's, this does break the spools!


I remember buying the 602AP becasue it sold itself as having strong spool even though it was a beachcasting reel. It was pretty poor really though, with the line always getting caught between the spool rim and the casing after any overrun. I learned the hardway about tip rings when I got snapped by 3 good fish in a row freshwater fishing in the late 70's.

[Issy]

Excellent advice you were given, with two other advises. When doing this, find a bit of driftwood or metal bar to wind the line on, otherwise all the constrictive pressure is on the spool of the reel. Not such a prblem nowadays, as most spools can handle it, but in case there are any anglers out there fishing with Mitchell 602AP's, this does break the spools!
Second point would be dont use this technique if snagged only a short distance out. I have seen tackle catapult back at lighning speed like this, and have personally taken a two ounce lead in the head from carp fishing when pulling for a break in this way!
Ah. That explains everything !!!!! :g:

[fishyrob]

Nope, my dementia came from a stella artois bottle to the head in a club in the respectablr city of London...!! I wear that scar with pride....:(

How do you get fish to stand in a row, Simon?