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Nosam
05-04-2008, 15:37
I read somewhere a while ago that Bass are ready to spawn when the sea temperature reaches 11 deg C. Has anyone else heard this?

I found a website that shows UK Sea Surface Temps...
http://www.getaforecast.com/weatherpix-seatemp.htm
Yesterday, 4/4/08 the 10-11 deg water was just pushing into Devon, lets see if the Bass flood in with the rising temp?

Might be rubbish of course :wallbash:

smiley73
05-04-2008, 16:44
dont know if you've ever come accross this before but...

british buoy data live. sea temps, wind speed/direction ect

http://www.pdfamily.com/weather/buoy/UKbuoy.php


al.

Fester
12-04-2008, 19:59
Yes!

I have logs that prove that when the water is 10degC the first of the bass come inshore along with other fish.

Cold weather in early spring may delay this, and it is trial and error.

The site I use is the Irish Sea model..

http://cobs.pol.ac.uk/modl/metfcst/irst/latest.php

This is todays

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii189/Naloxoneonfishing/IRS00t019A_080412.png


And this is a few weeks ago when bass were caught off the LLyn..

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii189/Naloxoneonfishing/Gulfstream.png

Notice the warm water lapping the tip of the LLyn, and compare it now to the cold snap we have had.

I feel that a lot of anglers ignore this information to their detroment! It is vital that sea temp is right for the right species.

Whatever the yanks are, take a leaf out of their book.

billy bennett
13-04-2008, 07:56
notice on the map the puple patch around the coast of the lakes,that is the runoff water from the rivers after heavy rain and snow

steve pitts
13-04-2008, 08:28
I read somewhere a while ago that Bass are ready to spawn when the sea temperature reaches 11 deg C. Has anyone else heard this?


From what I have read, female bass need a constant sea temp of around 9 degrees for the eggs to fully develop and then it appears that the lengthening hours of daylight can be the trigger for spawning to take place.

Adult bass from around the UK have historically migrated to over-winter in deep water out in the Western approaches and off the Channel Islands to find the stable water temps that they need for ova development and then they start to migrate back to their preferred summer locations in March / April.

Female bass are considered to be sequential spawners and can have eggs at different stages of development at once. They often spawn a number of times en-route to their summer locations and this probably acts as an 'insurance policy' for larval survival.

Spawning is likely to take place in tide races, where favourable currents will take the fertilized eggs towards the coast. The larva then enter estuaries or sheltered bays where they take up residence for 3 or 4 years, before the juvenile bass start dispersing along the adjacent coastline.

Devon is likely to get the first wave of the returning adult fish (those that haven't been caught by pair trawlers), but these could easily be fish that have migrated from further along the South and East coasts and they may not have completed their spawning cycles e.g. Portland and St Aldhelms in Dorset are known spawning sites, so adult bass caught at this time of year may be running with eggs or milt. Worth releasing these fish for obvious reasons :clap:

Recent tagging studies have indicated that more bass are staying closer to 'home' if winter sea temps don't drop below the 9 degree mark.

Spawning over, most adult fish return to the same general areas year after year and some tagged fish have been caught by anglers from the same rock marks 2 or 3 times over a 4 year period.

Cheers
Steve

Fester
13-04-2008, 10:42
Generally, at higher water temperatures fish are more active, use more energy and eat more food. This means that, in most cases, the warmer the water, the more energetically the fish will search for food and the more positively they are likely to bite.

rocket
13-04-2008, 11:29
We used to find that the bass would vanish from the pier at around 11 degrees, and the cod start showing when the temp was roughly around 9.

fish force
13-04-2008, 21:13
dont know if you've ever come accross this before but...

british buoy data live. sea temps, wind speed/direction ect

http://www.pdfamily.com/weather/buoy/UKbuoy.php


al.

Did anyone notice the temp' reading from the North Sea, 28.3!! is the gauge donald ducked??

Fester
13-04-2008, 21:51
Just to add.

Two weeks ago I got 8 peelers, today in very cold water I got 3!

Just goes to show that sea temp is very important!

alasdair
14-04-2008, 11:42
My guess is the one from the north sea is on an oil rig, and the clever scientist bloke put the thermometer too near to a burner/waste water outlet etc. Either that or it isn't calibrated correctly and is around 20* out. Very useful porgrams there.

Al

Nosam
15-04-2008, 13:37
Recent tagging studies have indicated that more bass are staying closer to 'home' if winter sea temps don't drop below the 9 degree mark.

I spoke to a guy in Looe a few weeks ago and he said the locals have been pulling the odd schoolie out of the harbour all winter.

steve pitts
16-04-2008, 07:50
Hi Nosam

It's reasonably common to continue catching schoolies from estuaries and other inshore marks throughout the winter, as bass don't tend to migrate offshore until they are mature or nearing maturity.

The juveniles stay around the coastline and continue to feed throughout the winter and with the warmer winter water temps that we have been experiencing, they may even continue to grow, but not as quickly as they do in the spring, summer and autumn.

Survival rates for small bass have been good over the past several years, but the adult fish are taking a hammering from increased inshore netting, trawls and offshore pair trawling.

There's also a significant bycatch of undersized (immature) bass in the inshore trawl fisheries and in the solent as much as 60% of the bass caught at certain times of the year are dumped as bycatch because trawls are being made in areas that contain high densities of juvenile fish.

Cheers
Steve

Nosam
23-04-2008, 18:06
OK the 11 degree water has finally arrived. Is this going to be a good weekend for the 1st good catches of Bass ?

Fester
23-04-2008, 21:45
Yes! I think so!!