Weekly Confirm the Fish Question

[garethp]

Gents,

Just to ensure that I am correct. I caught this yesterday:

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g120/garethp_2006/IMGP0518.jpg

I originally thought it was a tiny Turbot, but after talking to some other anglers and having such things as the lateral line, spots on the fins and mouth pointed out to me, I am now content that it is a strangely marked Plaice.

Can you just confirm this to stop me wondering for the rest of the year, as others are now suggesting Brill on the Ravenspoint report on the N Wales forum.

Many thanks.

[billy bennett]

its a brill

[bobjameson]

i would say its a plaice , but a very poorly marked one , no orange spots . sorry to say its not brill never in a month of sundays , Billy Bennett needs to get a fish ID book im affraid :g: :nono:

[sweeper driver]

I'd say an unusually marked plaice, it's a most strange looking creature. I'll send your pic to Alan Yates if you don't mind and see what he thinks.

[John Mason]

Strange isn't it! Got the markings of a brill and the mouth of a plaice!

Perhaps it's a Prill?

Cheers - John

[mickeythemackeral]

Could it be a hybrid??

[Puggy]

looks like a flattie to me, i could be wrong tho

[sailfish]

to put the cat amongst the pigeons again,i,ve looked through the various fishy sites and the one with the closest markings to that seems to be lemon sole.

[ajacks]

its a plaice with strange markings.
not a brill,not a lemon sole.

[sandeel king]

Gents,

Just to ensure that I am correct. I caught this yesterday:

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g120/garethp_2006/IMGP0518.jpg

I originally thought it was a tiny Turbot, but after talking to some other anglers and having such things as the lateral line, spots on the fins and mouth pointed out to me, I am now content that it is a strangely marked Plaice.

Can you just confirm this to stop me wondering for the rest of the year, as others are now suggesting Brill on the Ravenspoint report on the N Wales forum.

Many thanks.its a plaice have caught loads like it when we are trawling alot of them change markings as they get bigger

[blueskip]

Could it be a hybrid??

Not another bugger! haven't we got enough of them on here already????? :roll1:
blueskip
PS what did it taste like?

[Fisherdan32]

could be a plaice but adapted and camaflauged to the ground it has been laying on..

[garethp]

As it was only 2 inches long it was put back to grow and confuse someone else in the future!

[chorley boy]

As it was only 2 inches long it was put back to grow and confuse someone else in the future!

That explains it, I thought you had some novelty sized scissors!

p.s. it does look like a little plaice, but what do I know.

[MartynG]

Fairly standard juvenile Plaice - common enough I'd have thought to not need much debate :)

[fiskman6666]

its a brill

not a chance ,,brill has the same gob as a turbot ,girt great big thing.
Dave

[Fester]

Small Plaice without a doubt!:yawn:

Irish sea is the spawning ground for these fish, and you can see them in large deep sand pools at low water. West Shore at LLandudno is an example. As a kid I caught loads of them in bamboo nets and wondered what they were.

East coast of Anglesey is renowned for plaice over sand, so I would bet my Shimano gear that it is a plaice!

[Davy Holt]

Hiya,

Tis certainly not a Brill and from the pic it looks like it has rough scales along it's lateral line. If that is the case, that alone with the lack of Orange spots would suggest a small Flounder rather than a Plaice... but I wouldn't put money on it :)

[MartynG]

This is a very young plaice

http://i25.tinypic.com/1pwa39.jpg

[The Skink]

This is a very young plaice

http://i25.tinypic.com/1pwa39.jpg

Now i thought I had caught some tiny flatties but that beats me hands down. Looking at the colours on the picture in question we have started getting Flounders in the Moray Firth with the same light marking on them but just from one beach at Sandend,Strange:giveup:

Neal
The Skink

[bobjameson]

sorry matey you got that wrong . thats a baby Turbot check out the mouth all wrong to be a plaice . !!!!! :crazy:

[Fester]

No way!

Defo a Flounder!!

[Davy Holt]

Hiya,

This is a very young plaice


Is that a Young place that looks remarkably like a Young Turbot :)
(mouth is wrong and shape is wrong for a Plaice)

[bobjameson]

Thanks Davy , confirms what i said baby Turbot . defo not a flounder as someone sugested the eyes are on the wrong side of the head :crazy: :victory:

[Davy Holt]

Thanks Davy , confirms what i said baby Turbot . defo not a flounder as someone sugested the eyes are on the wrong side of the head :crazy: :victory:

Tis deffo a small Turbot (the second Pic) as for the eyes.. you get left and right handed flounders so it's not a good ID feature to go on

[albe2]

The first one is a plaice and the second a turbot.

[bobjameson]

my post should have said second pic is a turbot 1st pic a plaice :ohmy: sorry

[Fisher_Nick]

with the second one i'm gonna stick my neck out and say its not a turbot, because the eyes are large too large and the body doesn't look the right shape

[bobjameson]

Fisher Nick , its defo a turbot , a very young not properly developed fish,

maybe a quick visit to specsavers just for the" HALIBUT" may help you with your eyesight . !!!! instead of sticking your neck out :laugh: :roll1::roll1::roll1: :victory:

[Flathead]

Tis first pic Plaice second Turbot

[Johnnygm7lsi]

It`s a fish

[chiefbeef]

this is a plaice i caught last year from pwllheli

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c193/topehunter/pwll07003.jpg

[DJMCJERICO]

It's a Splodabock called Eric!

[OHTer]

This is a very young plaice

http://i25.tinypic.com/1pwa39.jpg

What I wanna know is....what size hook? 6/0? :lmao:
Looks like a baby turbot to me, not properly developed yet. Dont forget though, that flatfish arent flat when theyre born, the start life upright, the same as round fish, so identification ca be a problem until theyre fully developed :thumbs:

[livsdad]

A very good fish. Some would say a Brill(iant) Plaice

[sweeper driver]

I sent your pic to Alan Yates, he thought it was a plaice...he sent it to a bloke he knows :secret: who's got this mate :secret: who knows a geezer :secret: who knows all about these things...it's confirmed as an slightly abnormally coloured plaice.

[garethp]

Thought it would be...

Next week I'll try and catch a fluorescent yellow Black Goby to cause more debate!

Cheers all

[Fester]

I go with plaice, :victory:

Someone commented on my joke flounder post, apparently Jersey Flounder are all left hookers, must be a WW2 thing?

The flounder has a roughly oval shape, with both eyes on the right side of its head and has a small mouth and pointed snout. The lateral line curves slightly around the pectoral fin. It has a smooth body except for some rough scales along the lateral line and a row of prickly humps along the base of the dorsal and anal fins. The caudal peduncle is long, accounting for about half the length of the tail. The topside colour is variable from dull brown to greyish-green, often with small orange spots, while the underside is white. The flounder grows up to 50 cm in length.

[Davy Holt]

I go with plaice, :victory:
The flounder has a roughly oval shape, with both eyes on the right side of its head and

taken from here (http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.php?id=1341) "Eyes mostly (70%) on right side" so 30% have their eyes on the left hand side :)

[dab hand]

taken from here (http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.php?id=1341) "Eyes mostly (70%) on right side" so 30% have their eyes on the left hand side :)

Spot on, regarding the eyes, although most do lie on their left side, some do lie on the right. Never actually counted the difference, although I would think that regarding the ones on the Scottish side of the inner Solway the ratio must be about 100 to 1.
For interest, this season I will collate the figures from flounder caught by friends and self, during the remainder of this year. Which hopefuly will be in the region of 300 or more. and will photograph a few side by side opposites.

[Fester]

30% are German Flounders!

Now don't have a hissy fit it's only a joke, jeees, relax!:kissing:

[SmellyFerret]

pic 1 - squid
pic 2 - lobster

You should have seen the cod I caught last week.... Everyone kept saying It was a dogfish but i knew better! :) :) :) :) :) :)

[Woodster]

Dear all,

Could be a Winter Flounder (have a fishing book that describes a flounder with white spots):unsure::idea:

Woodster