Arbroath Boat Meet 20/07/08

[sultzer]

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Ok Arbroath boat meet sunday 20/07/08
alex smith boat
12 places available
deposits will be asked for by end of april then rest a week before trip

there will be a entry fee though
1. biggest cod - bottle beer
2.most species - 1 rig
3.biggest other fish - 1 bar of chocolate

ok names so far

me - :crazy: - confirmed
fathersmurf
peterthefisherman +1 - confirmed
bigads - confirmed
mickey +1 - confirmed
Bmac - ??
udderman - sorry - confirmed
grinch
millser
adeys

all places booked

[udderman]

that will be me please

[the grinch]

me please, if it isn't a private party.

[millser]

That would be good for me.

Which boat have you booked? what time is the trip scheduled for?

[ade]

me to jas pleasse

[ipso]

im up for it if there is a space left

[fathersmurf]

i,ll go if its still ok

[sultzer]

i,ll go if its still ok

:bones:your name is on the list :laugh::crazy:

[Mikeybhoy]

looking forward to this

1 question is the rig a homemader or is a bought 1::showoff:

[bmac]

Hi Jason, Sorry im so late in getting back to you !!! Was away up in Scrabster at the weekend and didn't get back till late last night. Ive checked the diary and im deffo free........... Count me in please :)

[sultzer]

hope you had a good weekend up there billy

[mad1]

put me down jason for that day

[sultzer]

looking forward to this

1 question is the rig a homemader or is a bought 1::showoff:
usually a shop bought - hokai etc , that we put in


put me down jason for that day

sorry to late mad1

[sultzer]

me - confirmed
fathersmurf - confirmed
peterthefisherman +1 - confirmed
bigads - confirmed
mickey +1 - confirmed
Bmac - confirmed
udderman - sorry - confirmed
grinch - confirmed
millser - confirmed
adeys - confirmed

if i missed anyone out give me a pm.
will be out this sat so i'll post sailing times when i get back.

ok as for tatics
hokais are good but depends on day as does bait
usual baits: lug/rag , mussels , squid , mackie
rigs , i usually have 2 hooks up and 1 on a boom with beads also a spinner added.

[Mikeybhoy]

whats the best tactics for this 1 baited muppets/hokkais? what size of hooks?

[peterthefisherman]

For Arbroath I tend to use a 2 down 1 up rig - size 2/0 - 4/0 hooks are fine - beads ,blades ,muppets etc. all help to attract
weights 6 oz to about 12 oz and plenty of them
baited hokais work very well - but put a rotton bottom on the weight to minimise losses
lug mussell and mackerel (ling love fishbaits) are all great but squid and rag will also catch
We fish quite a few competitions there so do be afraid to ask for advice or pm me if you want
To minimise losses of tackle I use 50 lb braid on the reel 70 Lb rig body and 25 Lb snoods - I always have a few extra snoods to replace those that beak off
Look forward to seeing you all there
:happy:

[peterthefisherman]

When we sailing Sultzer - or is it a sort of Masonic do !!!! :happy:

[ade]

im needing somewhere i can get hold of some 8and 12oz weights

[Mikeybhoy]

cool should be good am after a pb cod my pb is only 3.2lbs so hopefully shouldnt be that hard to beat

[sultzer]

When we sailing Sultzer - or is it a sort of Masonic do !!!! :happy:
ok me forgot:wallbash: but i am out on sat so i'll get sailing then .
and post rest as well
should be a good meet

[Mikeybhoy]

what times are we talking 9-5??? does the boat leave from arbroath harbour?

[udderman]

alright folks
i'm one of those looking forward to this trip and in the coming week will be watching the weather so..
whats the worst wind for arboath then

(never had a ling, so that my personal goal)

[peterthefisherman]

Easterlies can build a big swell - so best if some "west" in the wind in my view - at the moment it looks good on windguru

[sultzer]

Final Details For Trip

1. Sail at 8am at pontoon - park in car park
2. On the Horizon
3. Biggest cod -bottle beer
Most Species - hokais/similar rig
Heavest other fish - Bar of choc

ok for the rest just turn up :fishing1:

[Mikeybhoy]

is the poonton mate near the cages?

[sultzer]

next to irnli life boat - car park as soon as you come in

[sultzer]

ok lads
do you want a species day out or a cod etc day out
i forgot to ask
reply here asap

[millser]

how about a bit of both, can try one and if not much is happening try the other

[ade]

both will do me too
are we allowed to keep the cod or ling caught?

[sultzer]

both will do me too
are we allowed to keep the cod or ling caught?

:lmao::lmao::lmao:
anything over min size if ye want

[ade]

thats good then knowin my bloody luck it will be all little stuff

[sultzer]

we only had 3 or 4 wee cod rest were 1.5lb to 5lb
ling were just undersize on sat.

[bigads]

I'll do whatever the skipper reckons will give the best results for the day. We'll probs pick up species with the codling anyway.

[sultzer]

I'll do whatever the skipper reckons will give the best results for the day. We'll probs pick up species with the codling anyway.
if sat anything to go by species along with the mackie :laugh:

[udderman]

any thing thats a fish i'll be well in

[peterthefisherman]

I would suggest you fish for cod/ling the other species will come along anyway though to be fair there arent a huge variety.
Today I had 21 fish - mainly cod with a quite a few ballans a ling and a ss sea scorpion the only other species caught were mackerel (about4) and a pouting.
Its really not a place for species hunting in my view.
Should be a great day out - I am looking forward to trying different tactics as you can,t afford to experiment in the matches we fish there.
Look forward to seeing you all there.
Peter :laugh:

[the grinch]

Cod and Ling sound great to me!

[sultzer]

lads pm for my mobby no for sunday just in case

[ade]

hi
will 10- 8oz and 10-12oz be enough

[sultzer]

ade ye i sometimes go down to a 6oz

[ade]

is the tide not strong at arbroath ive not fished from boat do we anchor up or drift

[bigads]

I think its mostly drifting Ade for rough grounds species. I'm not sure what it like over the sand......never heard much about it.

[peterthefisherman]

All drift fishing - can be a bit rough - I lost about 10 weights and 6 snoods on Sat - rotten bottoms are necessary
Should be a great day :clap2:

[bmac]

Aye, i'm looking forward to the meet also. I'm fishing a region match on Saturday at Arbroath so it's a double header for me.

[ade]

so whats the more effective rig to use

[sultzer]

so whats the more effective rig to use

one that catches fish:bleh:

[ade]

i got some tnt and mini depth chargers should be fine

[udderman]

10lb line do for a rotten bottom (not i'm breaking wind)

[sultzer]

i use a paper clip for a rotten bottom

rigs , silver flasha were catching mackie by the bucket load ,
i was using 2 hooks up and 1 on a boom , with yellow/orange beads ,
seems to pull in the cod

[Mikeybhoy]

anyone got any diagrams of the rigs that are required for this 1? was going to use baited hokkais/muppets but fancy a diff approach

[ade]

all ive done is done it like flattie rig but one hi and other two lower

im gonna try my gummi makkies was great in norway for cod and pollack

[ade]

how many rigs roughly am i goig to need to take
ive made 5

[Mikeybhoy]

i think i will make about the same plus a good few sets of muppets/ hokkais

[ade]

ive nicked all my daughters beads and sparkly things .......i did say i'll give em back .lol

[Mikeybhoy]

ive nicked all my daughters beads and sparkly things .......i did say i'll give em back .lol


:roll1::roll1::roll1: nice 1 want just better hope ye dont get snagged or u may be in the dog house hahahaa. am going to the angling centre on saturday to pick up sum spinner blades and beads.

[spellbound]

Not saying that these are the best, but similar have caught fish at Arbroath.

I don't always add the blade on the dropper snood ( sometimes just have beads ) - but it does add noise as well as visual attraction.

The length on the trace from the boom to end hook varies but usually around 3-4ft.

[ade]

how many beads to a hook length ive made some with a whole lot of bead and varied amounts

[spellbound]

It really depends on how many beads you have and are prepared to lose :unsure:

For me the beads act as a visual attraction - so the clearer the water in theory the less you might need.

What I usually have on the end is 3x8mm and 2x5mm between the blade - it doesn't seem to put the smaller fish off.

[bigads]

What time will you be contacting the Skipper to find out if the trip is on Sultzer?

[ade]

weather looks ok for sunday nnw 16mph
what rooms on the boat for gear wise will also remember a bin bag for fish

[peterthefisherman]

If yer taking cod home Adeys - I suggest a bucket or coolbox - if the bag leaks the car is minging for ages - been there got the T-shirt :yucky:

[ade]

oky dok pete

would i have enough bait
rag
lug
mussel
squid
razor

[peterthefisherman]

I presume we will get a few mackerel - so should have tons of bait
Were gonna try Elliot beach or Longannet after the match if there is spare bait
Look forward to seeing you there - last time I saw you you were making light work of a pretty decent skate !!!!! :clap3:

[spellbound]

Hi peeps - just a thought - seems there's prizes a begging so you need a tally master of sorts.. either a weigh-master or score-keeper.

Weighing individual fish is pretty time consuming - so a measure might be the way to go?


1. biggest cod - bottle beer
2.most species - 1 rig
3.biggest other fish - 1 bar of chocolate

Hope you all have a good time :)

PS - can I have a £1 each way on Peterthefisherman and BMac - both 'sharks' in their own way ! - though a sneaky 50p on the nose for Andy ;)

[millser]

Have to say the forecast wind wise is not looking great

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/marine/inshore_forecast.html?area=2&type=All

[millser]

Have just spoken to Alex Smith and trip will still be going ahead as planned the sea is not as rough down at Arbroath will see you all there.

[sultzer]

Have to say the forecast wind wise is not looking great

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/marine/inshore_forecast.html?area=2&type=All

was worse last week with the forecast but still ok.
problem will be if the boat keeps blowing out instead of with the tide

[Mikeybhoy]

am aboustly gutted i broke my thumb last night on the way home after a night out :(:( cant belive am missing this now. i have sent jason an email . no fishing for me for a month:schmoll::schmoll:

[peterthefisherman]

Sorry to here that m8 - can I suggest Sultzer that as this isnt the biggest boat we dont worry about filling the place - its only a coulpe of quid each extra

[bmac]

Sorry to hear about the finger m8, I'm sure we will get a session when your better. Spoke to the skippers today and weather will be fine tomorrow. The usual Lug and Mussel was top bait today although Squid took a few fish also.
**FYI 6-8oz weight sufficient at slack water but you will prob have to step up to a 12oz when tide Begin's to run**

Cya all in the morning :thumbs:

[ade]

billy is razor worth takin

[sultzer]

see you all in morning away to get kid ready for bed
then bait digging tonight

[ade]

just one thing do ya have to pay for car park beings its sunday

[peterthefisherman]

One day without a shave wont kill you Adeys !!!:bleh:
Car park is free:clap2:

[sultzer]

stingy fifer ade
you been there to long :bleh:

[ade]

meeee stingy thats my middle name

[sultzer]

quick update
biggest cod 5lb 4oz - udderman
most species , peter , billy , other
biggest other fish - billy , grinch

will post a report later
thanks to everyone who turned up and to adam for the t-shirt etc prize.:1a:
pity about the wind yet again.