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mrfishjersey
25-09-2008, 19:24
Hi guys. Right this is a wierd one but I am hoping some of you may be interested. Its in a very early stage, like we have just started discussing it today, but a bunch of us over here, ie me, a hotel owner, a fishing guide and a guy from Jersey tourism have decided we want to do a "Bass in" if you get what I mean. Its basically a chance for ten to twenty guys to get together for a few days and share info and styles and to learn from each other, styles and tips etc. This is for guys that want to learn how to lure fish, walking the dog, slidings and popping, right through to using bass rods with worm and live baits etc. There would be some beach, rock and small boat fishing involved. I am hoping Henry is still up for being involved, he said he was, so you'll even get to meet and fish with Mr "Your mothers a man" Gilbey. It will be sorted out as a package, flights, accom and transport. So the question is... anyone up for it?

benhben
25-09-2008, 19:46
Sounds like a great idea. I wouldn't be able to make it over, but how about someone filming each topic and lure action/techniques and posting web videos? Would be a great source of online info for beginners and experienced anglers alike!

rauri
25-09-2008, 19:48
i was considering going on a bassing adventure next year instead of going to glastonbury,was thinking cornwall or ireland but this sounds like a very good idea,id definatly like more details if anything comes of it

jordanis3r
25-09-2008, 20:08
count me in!

I can demonstrate my wetsuit swim technique ... in other words falling in!:victory:

pasty steve
25-09-2008, 20:15
Id be well up for it mate! Would be great fun.

You can show me how to use these lures I keep buying off you.

Graham Hill
25-09-2008, 20:21
Mic,,,
NO CHANCE !!!!!!!!!!!count me out!!!the mother is on speed:crazy::crazy:
or was it irish blow:crazy::crazy:
only jesting sounds a great craic great to share ideas mabey a future fishing club??
i baggy treasurer:group::group:

gee

topwater
25-09-2008, 20:39
I mainly fish in Dorset but a trip to Jersey sounds great!


Ollie

JoeSepi
25-09-2008, 20:40
Sounds great, count me in.

Mick I'll have to get you to put one of those red rods aside for me if I can resist not ordering one before then.

WoW
25-09-2008, 20:47
Hi guys. Right this is a wierd one but I am hoping some of you may be interested. Its in a very early stage, like we have just started discussing it today, but a bunch of us over here, ie me, a hotel owner, a fishing guide and a guy from Jersey tourism have decided we want to do a "Bass in" if you get what I mean. Its basically a chance for ten to twenty guys to get together for a few days and share info and styles and to learn from each other, styles and tips etc. This is for guys that want to learn how to lure fish, walking the dog, slidings and popping, right through to using bass rods with worm and live baits etc. There would be some beach, rock and small boat fishing involved. I am hoping Henry is still up for being involved, he said he was, so you'll even get to meet and fish with Mr "Your mothers a man" Gilbey. It will be sorted out as a package, flights, accom and transport. So the question is... anyone up for it?

Yes Yes YES !!

Brilliant idea MFJ

I love plugging but don't enjoy it solo, this takes any hastle out of organising a trip. Guys at work do a trip to Ireland every other year but it's more about bait and each person sorts out their own accomodation (that spell hastle to me).
A long weekend or Mon - Fri would be a great thing.

Another friend of mine does a lot of plugging on our north coast and always intended to do something similar with a B&B but it never came off.

Again I really think it is a good idea and you could be onto something big... well done :)

Markj
25-09-2008, 21:31
Mick is this open to just novice anglers(and i don't mean that disrespectfully in anyway) or can anyone come along.

Mark

mrfishjersey
25-09-2008, 21:43
This is great, thank you everyone who has commented already. It is open to anyone that wants to learn, and I am sure that means everyone. It doesnt matter if youve been fishing for 30 years or 30 minutes you are always learning. This will happen, like I said it is really early days, we are probably going to advertise it in Sea Angler etc too, hopefully it will become an on going thing, having a few a year. Us lot that totally love our lure fishing are still quite a small group in the UK, so it really would be great to meet up, make new freinds and exchange info. The video thing and articles will deffinately be part of it too.

softie
25-09-2008, 21:59
Book us a slot for 2 if it all goes to plan Mick, we'll be over your island during Sept next year anyway. Good idea :thumbs:

Fish Fumbler
26-09-2008, 02:34
Excellent idea that, i fancy a bit of that:happy:. Let me know how its going to pan out, awesome. :laugh:

Spitfire66
26-09-2008, 05:52
Mick - put me down (would need resonable notice so I can book hols flights etc)

sounds great :)

Nosam
26-09-2008, 10:30
Mick

Sounds like my cup of tea. I've never professed to be good at fishing so sponge me up with all that knowledge.

The only down side is if I come the weather will be F8 and it'll lashing down for days.

Mick for Jersey minister of Sea Fishing !!!

mrfishjersey
26-09-2008, 11:47
Mick - put me down

:)

What like the dog you are Mr Hollyhock?

Spitfire66
26-09-2008, 16:53
What like the dog you are Mr Hollyhock?

Oh dear I mention your post and you lose all that free beer lol

mrfishjersey
26-09-2008, 18:00
Oh dear I mention your post and you lose all that free beer lol

Ah but he did bring me in a lovely Magners rugby shirt yesterday :bleh:

Spitfire66
26-09-2008, 18:40
Ah but he did bring me in a lovely Magners rugby shirt yesterday :bleh:

was he wearing it when he entered the shop? :bleh::bleh::bleh:

mrfishjersey
26-09-2008, 19:22
was he wearing it when he entered the shop? :bleh::bleh::bleh:

Brilliant!!!!!!

coxey
30-09-2008, 14:58
count me in, hope i dont miss out because i need a good lesson in catching bass, i am a novice and been spinning about 10 times with not a single fish so i desperatly need help, plus my brother wants to go on a fishing holiday and this sounds perfect.

just hope i dont miss out..

mrfishjersey
30-09-2008, 15:57
No one will miss out bud, it will be well advertised on here before it goes in Sea Angler and TSF, welcome aboard

j0hnb0y
30-09-2008, 18:27
i hope i am available for this. my bass fishing record on plugs is so far...0 !!

congerpants
01-10-2008, 18:11
Bass Fishing Now a High School Sport

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/10/bass-fishing-now-high-school-sport.php

Bass fishing catching on as high school sport

http://www.foxlakefishing.com/2008/09/27/bass-fishing-now-a-school-sport/

pasty steve
01-10-2008, 18:27
[QUOTE=congerpants;1398187]Bass Fishing Now a High School Sport

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/10/bass-fishing-now-high-school-sport.php

Bass fishing catching on as high school sport

http://www.foxlakefishing.com/2008/09/27/bass-fishing-now-a-school-sport/[/

Lucky kids!

Beats freezing your nads off playing bloody rounders and cricket!

showmethebass
08-10-2008, 15:26
Yes!!!! i would be up for it defo can you send me more details?? if i give you my email address??

mrfishjersey
08-10-2008, 15:53
There isnt a panic at the moment bud I will be having a meeting soon with the guys, once our bass festival is over, and I will put a post up here asking for names and I will PM everyone that has already shown interest.

Henry Gilbey
08-10-2008, 16:36
This would be very cool indeed...............

Davie L
08-10-2008, 16:52
Sounds Like a bang on idea....Really looking to hearing more about this one! I will be there no doubts!!

Davie

Spitfire66
02-12-2008, 08:12
Mick - any idea if & when this will be happening (I need to start looking at booking hols at work)

Just dont want it to clash with another trip / work.

cheers bud

Plugs & Runs
02-12-2008, 09:58
Thats a good idea matey, the americans do it. Providing you get the support, im sure it will be a success. Judging by the early interest I think maybe it will be a university not a school:yeah: Mike

GlennG
02-12-2008, 10:40
Superb idea mick, count me in.

mrfishjersey
02-12-2008, 16:16
Well I am just waiting for my tide books to be printed, and I am at our AGM thursday so I will chat to Steve Mullins about it. I recon we will do more than one, probably two or three, and I recon it should be before the tourist season pushes the hotel and travel costs up too much. So probably April and May, what do you recon?

And Spitfire, I will be getting lessons off you I recon!!!

Gee are you up for it old boy? Or will you get sea sick you landlubber you.

NickNoBananas
02-12-2008, 20:35
Mick, can locals play? Been boat fishing 40 years, but a novice at the plugging as my dismal record this year will show....
More than happy to drive a minibus or do anything else to help....:notworthy

Graham Hill
02-12-2008, 22:23
Well I am just waiting for my tide books to be printed, and I am at our AGM thursday so I will chat to Steve Mullins about it. I recon we will do more than one, probably two or three, and I recon it should be before the tourist season pushes the hotel and travel costs up too much. So probably April and May, what do you recon?

And Spitfire, I will be getting lessons off you I recon!!!

Gee are you up for it old boy? Or will you get sea sick you landlubber you.
up for anything old mate,,telling H that i must come to jersey in the winter ,,,i need to know how to catch a few fish:blink::blink::blink:

call me

gee

Daniel Ferguson
04-12-2008, 01:07
Well if there is still a place for one more ..Count me in please :).
I am always up for learning a thing or two. Makes it easyier for me i live over here no travelling involved :laugh: .

myfish
09-12-2008, 20:48
for folks thinking its maybe only for serious bass heads.
I'm assured it'll be for everyone regardless of skills level.
This is the whole point. Some of this stuff is regarded as a dark art. We've just gotta break it all down into modules.

To ensure this i reckon various techniques will get covered like surface, subsurface, night, spinner baits, bucktails, finesse plastics, dealing with shallow water, fast water, clear water, watercraft, beach reading, solunar stuff....

all sounds ott i know but its NOT. In fact, its all quite simple if taken in sections.

I would suggest that anyone attending would learn something. Maybe not just from the guys doing the seminars too. Everyone, from every walk of angling will have valuable insights and hopefully, these schools will help guys share them one to one.

I reckon it'll be awesome.

fiquet
09-12-2008, 21:33
sounds interesting especially dark arts bit,

myfish
09-12-2008, 21:43
dark arts ?

well, you wait till we get you swapping lures out blindfold :oops::cry::cry:

£1 all in, guy with the least trebles stuck in skin takes the pot :laugh:

No, seriously....

We'll cover fly, bombarda etc and tons of stuff not really commonplace but...., just might, with the right adaptation, change your approach forever.

And you'll be able to swap plugs in pitch darkness :laugh::laugh:

stinkbomb
10-12-2008, 07:55
sounds great guys.count me in too.been wanting to learn this art for sometime now but just need some help.and this sounds perfect.:victory:

Spitfire66
05-01-2009, 20:28
Mick - I need to book holidays - any idea if this is going ahead (really need some dates if so)

ta

myfish
05-01-2009, 22:10
Mick will obviously have to confirm but...
AFAIK its all go from this end. Just needs structure and dates.

mrfishjersey
05-01-2009, 22:18
Um, good question Tom. To be honest I am not sure if this actual one will go ahead. It was an idea just put up to see what response and potential it would have, and the feed back has been great and I am sure it would work for everyone. Thing is mate is although its a good idea I have my own personal doubts. What it is is I have never charged anyone when I take them out fishing, in fact I enjoy taking customers and visitors out shore and boat fishing and I am just worried that when you start charging people for this service then you are leaving yourself open to critisism. I am sure it can and will be done over here, but I am not ready for it at the mo. Maybe I need to go to one of Jim Hendricks weekends in Wexford to see what is expected from a bass school. Yes I can show guys how to work lures and thats only because I have done alot of it, I am no expert, and I think a bass school is a bit out of my league. It may still go ahead without me and I will let you know what has been discussed. Any ideas would be welcome here guys...... but like I said anyone is welcome to pop over and go fishing with me and the boys.

jordanis3r
05-01-2009, 23:22
I totally understand where you are coming from - its one thing fishing and teaching informally - its another level getting paid for it ...

expectations need to be set (and satisfied?) , conditions and weather can only be planned so far - its not easy ...

I have had the pleasure of informal casual tuition and professional guidance and both suit me down to the ground as I don't set my sights on the weather or number of fish I can bag - just picking up a few technique bits here and there as I go - its all about the learning!

what we could do is have an informal WSF meet in Jersey - then we can all go out or in small groups and learn from each other - best way forward imho

myfish
05-01-2009, 23:30
I have had the pleasure of informal casual tuition and professional guidance and both suit me down to the ground as I don't set my sights on the weather or number of fish I can bag - just picking up a few technique bits here and there as I go - its all about the learning!Exactly.

I am quite prepared to take a few guys out by myself or alongside my brother Kev for a 'teach in'.
No money has to change hands. It would be a gratis introduction to what 'we' do.
What you take from it remains to be seen but i'm sure we could offer much if you approach it with an open and logical mind.

Our guiding would of course be kept seperate from this but i wouldn't expect actual fish catching to be part of a seminar anyway.
Too much noise and mixed focus wouldn't really allow for Bass fishing in big close groups.
However, a fun Bombarda session on the Mackerel and Gars could offer light entertainment and you'd see how effective the method can be.
Loads of stuff could be offered.
I think it depends what people want from a seminar.
It can be as simple or as technical as you like but, i feel a happy mix of the 2 would be about right.
As long as safety is adhered too, i don't see why we can't move forward with it.
There are at least 1/2 dozen other great Jersey anglers who could show people stacks of stuff learnt from years of experience.

I don't think people realise what skills they actually do have sometimes.

mrfishjersey
05-01-2009, 23:31
Yeah its probably putting ones neck on the line that scares me. When does an angler become an expert? Are there experts in fishing? Really? Probably, and they are the ones charging people for their services.

It would be a nice build up for our bass festival if a few guys made a week of it, a few of us could take that week off and we could all go out anf fish together, thats the way forward in my mind and the way to get feed back to see if something could be offered one day, maybe when I retire!! :laugh:

jordanis3r
05-01-2009, 23:35
Sounds like a plan - evolving into a Bass fish in methinx!

please promise me that somebody will lock up all the karaoke machines on Jersey if Gee comes over ... I dread to think what is happening in Egypt right now :cry:

lol!

bobjameson
05-01-2009, 23:39
Gee

He will be in dnile

With drawl symtoms no fishing rods :lmao::lmao::lmao::help:

myfish
05-01-2009, 23:50
It would be a nice build up for our bass festival if a few guys made a week of it, a few of us could take that week off and we could all go out anf fish together, thats the way forward

Thats the way.
It would be the most cost effective too.
AND

Any skills learned could be applied over the Bass Festival actual.

We'd need a plan soon though cause of booking time to do it.

Anyone up for a night session ?

jordanis3r
06-01-2009, 12:13
I would be keen to make a week of it in October for the shore festival ... prolly couldnt do a whole week for the boat gig in July but a day either side would be ok ....

Spitfire66
06-01-2009, 17:36
Thats the way.
It would be the most cost effective too.
AND

Any skills learned could be applied over the Bass Festival actual.

We'd need a plan soon though cause of booking time to do it.

Anyone up for a night session ?

Keith I could do with a heads up on the night bit (only tried it twice I was there last time - was bloody petrified) - maybe there will be time either side of the open shore

kjw
06-01-2009, 19:38
just been looking through this and what might work is,as keith mentioned in an early post,there are plenty of anglers over here,and some coming over that a teach in seminar could be the way,book a room and have people pay a small entry fee that covers the cost and have the day split into 1/2hr segments or 1 hr segments depending on the subject and how indepth the specker wants/can go into,you could have seminars on how to rig/fish plastics,eg:weedless,or the steve mckenna way or many other ways inc drop shotting,what types of water,depth,current,the list is endless,all you need is one or two guy's that have a reasonable bit of knowledge on the subject at hand,they talk,then have a 15min break for any questions on the subject.

you can have a talk on bucktails,show how to tie them and some methods on fishing them,why to chose certain colours in the day,how to get them to float in the water column,and much more

how to read the water.

how best to fish at night on lures

basic lure customizing.

how to help chose the right lure for the conditions,presentation.

how best to work a popper,sinking and floating,what conditions are needed,best lures,

the differance between poppers and pencil poppers,and there is one(how to modify to make them easier to use)


i'am sure that from all the people that fish in the island and though's that are coming over there are at less 10 guy's that could put something like this together.

kev

st ouen
06-01-2009, 20:46
...in dnile...:roll1::roll1:

st ouen
06-01-2009, 21:00
Yeah its probably putting ones neck on the line that scares me. When does an angler become an expert? Are there experts in fishing? Really? Probably, and they are the ones charging people for their services.

It would be a nice build up for our bass festival if a few guys made a week of it, a few of us could take that week off and we could all go out anf fish together, thats the way forward in my mind and the way to get feed back to see if something could be offered one day, maybe when I retire!! :laugh:

I think you are underestimating your knowledge and how respected you are. And that's not blowing smoke up your chuff, just a view. And the first test in learning any skill is usually to realise that you can never know it all.

Not everyone wants a mega-detailed approach. Just a few good tips would be enough and its probably a case of sorting attendees into the right groups based on specific interests etc and getting guys talking to each other. As kjw said today, everyone has a gem or two up their sleeve.

A symposium approach would be good starting point - that way everyone contributes openly and its more of a discussion with small groups each looking at different topics and rotating between topics if that's what people want.

But above all it can't be too heavy, it has to be about fun and we need to keep it real so that anyone can join in.

And the week before the bass fest is a great idea BTW.:victory:

myfish
10-01-2009, 22:12
I honestly think a 1hr session spent around one of the sea swimming pools where folks could see how retrieves affect actions, and actually getting to try all the stuff in clear shallowish water would be great.

You'd even see grubbed bottom plastics working.

Playing with fly rods, bombarda etc at an introduction level.

I think its important not to blind with science but also not be rude in assuming people don't know stuff or can't contribute(because they can and they do).

Tons of options and people shouldn't associate a teach in with the catching of fish.

Its a seperate entity.

Smaller groups could go out to put that into to practice for sure afterwards though.

Me and Kev would work with upto a half dozen on a night trip.
we'd keep it simple guys but eat your carrots...

pere noster
10-01-2009, 22:58
yes please!!....not sure what I could bring to the group technique-wise, as my style of lure fishing is probably very basic, but sounds like the perfect excuse to make my way over to the 'mecca' of sea fishing for the first time.

would be very interested to learn about these different styles, fish a beautiful, totally new spot and meet like minded lure addicts.....if it happens, please PM me!!

(ooops should've read the whole thread before getting over excited & writing that lot....would be fantastic to see this as a regular event!)

tight lines

Spitfire66
11-01-2009, 09:52
yes please!!....not sure what I could bring to the group technique-wise, as my style of lure fishing is probably very basic, but sounds like the perfect excuse to make my way over to the 'mecca' of sea fishing for the first time.

would be very interested to learn about these different styles, fish a beautiful, totally new spot and meet like minded lure addicts.....if it happens, please PM me!!

(ooops should've read the whole thread before getting over excited & writing that lot....would be fantastic to see this as a regular event!)

tight lines

Pere - keep an eye on this section - there are plenty of meets & events (you would enjoy the Jersey open shore bass)

Here is a bass school / guiding service http://bassfishing.ie/

oh there are a whole bunch of Sussex pluggers who you could hook up with too

mrfishjersey
11-01-2009, 14:53
And my offer offer that if anyone is coming to Jersey at any point this summer and want a spot of plugging from the shore or boat they are welcome to hook up with me, its a great excuse to get out the shop and leave Dougie to it :laugh: So if your mrs is ever saying you could do with a short break away this summer then maybe mention Jersey, she can VAT free shop and you can take her to one of our top class restuarants (we have loads over here) and during the day you can get some plugging in, its a win win situation!!

pere noster
11-01-2009, 15:10
thanks guys...if the pennies can be saved am gonna start exploring some of these travel/fishing options (awesome site spitfire...not very adventurous in my google searches...cheers dude!)

...channel islands, ireland, wales, SW england, portugal....I too have the horn....gotta start saving!!