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seaangler

20-01-2004, 22:09

I can't seem to stop catching coalies at the moment.  I am spinning with 30g silver lures or using a one up, one down paternoster with frozen sandeels or slices of mackrel on size 2 to 2/0 hooks.  Plenty of fish coming out upto the five pound mark.  These fish are from the Isle of Man but the same method would work.  Tip put plenty of sequins and beads by the hook (usually to sequins and one bead) but use a stop knot to prevent them sliding up the snood.  Hope this helps?

Manx Fisher

21-01-2004, 17:31

Wherabouts in the Isle of Man are you catching the coalies 'seaangler' ?  5lb is a nice fish.

In response to the orig question - I have found shallower marks to be better for coalies.  Baits can be very localised, but generally lug and mussels work in most places.

seaangler

22-01-2004, 17:59

Hi Manx Fisher I am catching most of the coalies from Port Erin as you say a shallow venue and the odd trip to Gansey Beach and Port St. Mary.  Where are you catching from?

Manx Fisher

22-01-2004, 18:55

Hi Sea Angler.

Ramsey area mostly, but also Douglas.  Gonna try PSM over the next couple of months, but also want to try some rock marks.

I have often wondered about fishing Port Erin area but dont seem to find the time - not enough hours in the day / days in the week to fit all my fishing in...

Can you drop me a PM with any Port Erin info you have ? Perhaps we can meet up for a trip.

Cheers

seaangler

25-01-2004, 18:34

Manx Fisher,
I know what you mean about the hours in the day.  I keep trying to get up north for a session on the Cod but never manage it.  I will post up some info for fishing the south soon.  Maybe we could meet up.  You can email direct on info@seaangler.iofm.net.

Tight lines

27-01-2004, 00:48

Seems like this is the Manx forum! Hi all - new forum looks good.

PSM breakwater is always good for coalies, not sure about about this time of year though is it any good?

I can't seem to get away from the Whiting - Both East and North East of the Island.

seaangler

27-01-2004, 11:54

I am finding that the coalies are coming out on bright days coupled with strong spring tides as well  I remember just after christmas two of us took over 45 coalies upto 1/2lb and one bass in a spinning session.  It seems to have slowed down but have had six out per session upto the 5lb mark but average 3lb+

Manx Fisher

27-01-2004, 12:22

How do Hondy.

3 manxies in the same place. *What a small world the wibbly wobbly web thingy is. *

I suspect that before long we will have a proliferation of local sites ... good luck lads - i think this site sets the benchmark for you both.

Its looking like I am defo going to have to head south of the fairy bridge for some coalfish action very soon *http://www.worldseafishing.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

27-01-2004, 13:09

Manx Fisher- yes I think you are right, especially at this time of the year when fishing is at a low ebb (as it were) - time to collate the knowlegde gained from the previous year ready for summer

But back on thread.. I would say Coalies aren't too fussy for the bait type,and as for rig - the ledger is as good as any I find, close in to the egde (e.g. PSM). Sticking with the shallow water theme appears to be the key, although I'm not sure how well they cope with the surf flattiebasher, maybe someone can chip in here? http://www.worldseafishing.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Manx Fisher

27-01-2004, 17:02

Sorry Flattiebasher, went off on a bit of a tangent there.

Getting back to your original question - only other thing I would add about fishing for coalies is that they are often found at close range, so prehaps lob a 1 Up 1 Down close in with a rolling lead.

Let us know how you get on.

seaangler

27-01-2004, 20:38

Hello manxfisher, hondy & flattiebasher (with apology),

Well alot has been covered and yet on-one has disagreed with each other. So civil its better than most marriages.  Close range - yep Shallow water - yep not too fussy just like dogfish - yep.

Happy fishing all tight lines

28-01-2004, 00:03

Sounds fairly conclusive!

Out of interest has anyone caught any coalies from a boat? I mean, you probably can, but in significant numbers?

garyth

28-01-2004, 22:17

it wld appear this web thing isnt that big after all!
i am from port st mary and fish port erin fairly regular....how ever for some reason i dont seem to have as much luck as the rest of u! where am i going wrong?.....ive fished psm break water,port erin pier(the small one),castletown pier(behind police station)..as i live way down south here i wld be gratefull for any tips i can get to actualy catch something in this area as twice a wk fishing and not even catching the sun or a cold is quite frustrateing lol.....any tips guys??? bait,rigs,location??..beach or pier not too fussy.

Manx Fisher

29-01-2004, 12:47

And then there were 4 !!!

Hey Garyth, welcome.  

This website is probably the most informative UK site around, and is defo a favourite of mine, but i hope the owners dont mind if i give a little mention to Hondy's site ... www.manxseafishing.com - has a great forum for manx anglers.

Garyth, in a nut shell - fish PSM breakwater (the outer one): fish from half tide up to high water, drop a queenie bait straight down the side right on the point.  It can get crowded, so get there early.  A single hook trace (running ledger or paternoster) is all that is needed.  Best thing is just to watch the other anglers and copy them.

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29-01-2004, 14:49

Thanks Manx Fisher! I must point out that it's not quite finished yet but there's some local knowledge in there which would hopefully be usefull.

Don't forget Garyth - this is possibly the worst time to catch anything so don't give up yet, wait until the water warms up a little near summer when the Mackerel are out in force!

Manx Fisher

29-01-2004, 15:05

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seaangler

29-01-2004, 18:43

Hi all, Welcome garyth,

I turn myback for 30 seconds and miss a load.  I am a bit busy this week so will have trouble keeping up.  Hondy your site is looking good.  Well done.  Anyone been fishing in the last couple of days?

29-01-2004, 21:46

Thanks seaangler, I'm looking forward to seeing your site!
It's been hard work so far but i'm sure it will be worth it when it's finished, I promised myself to have it completed by summer.

Couldn't agree more with Manx Fisher on the queenies point, when they get dumped at the end of the breakwater scoop out the remains and hook them, you are almost guaranteed to catch.  http://www.worldseafishing.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

garyth

30-01-2004, 00:43

summer? wots that this is the isle of man remember guys lol
thanks for ur tips though il maybe have a try this wk end.

do u know of any other good marks? beach or rocks etc?

01-02-2004, 14:56

Garyth - I went to PSM breakwater on Saturday night and caught 3 coalies. FYI I used half sand eels soaked in sardine oil on a 3 hook flapper/gripperlead using a medium power cast from my beachcaster aiming back into the bay. They were about 1.5lb each. I caught the first one about 2 hours after hight tide then 1 an hour (not a great ratio I know!).

garyth

01-02-2004, 21:30

hondy- maybe its just my aroma that fish can smell when i get there lol maybe il change to brutt or something....ive live in psm for about a yr n fished itevery so often since oct n ive caught maybe 1....strange looking fish it was too..back end of an eel(looked like) and quite a fat head......im not giveing up though.

02-02-2004, 02:22

Don't give up, it will be something simple mate.
Bait presentation is most important, make sure your bait looks like it should. If you use a sand eel make sure it looks like a swimming sand eel, not a bit of sand eel meat slapped on a hook for example. How do you bait up? A 1/0 aberdeen hook through the flank and threaded on, bound up with bait elastic is the way to go, is this what you do? We'll have you lifting coalies by summer *http://www.worldseafishing.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

garyth

02-02-2004, 12:15

hondy- my hooks r out of the packet n i cant rember wot size they r(i know twit lol)..they r quite small but not tiny number 3 or 4 rings a bell.....i use sand eels or mackeral fillets havent used feathers or spinners yet....i think my presentation is ok but i cld be wrong and i dont bound the bait on but il start.to be honest my sand eel baiting isnt exactly ermmmm good n im still unsure on whether i shld be useing whole ones instead of the halfs that i do??.....call me thick but im still really learning all this.but if i catch big enough to eat or use for bait il be forever in debt to you lol

02-02-2004, 13:57

hehe not to worry, we are all learning all the time!
Try a size 1 hook and use a medium half sand eel, put the hook into the flank just away from the gills and feed the hook point down the inside of the eel until you can get the hook point out about 2/3 of the way down. You should now have a straight piece of eel. Wrap the eel on with fine bait elastic  to stop it ripping off as it gets softer from soaking in the water.
Use a gripper lead to anchor the line (which should be tight) and leave it watching the tip.

They are also partial to the queenie remains as mentioned earlier using a ledger or whatever.

seaangler

02-02-2004, 21:48

Hi Guys,

Quite a lot on the message board since I last looked.  I managed a quick session Sunday and caught six coalies spinning.  I have had success on whole and half sandeels with silver sequins and white beads on size 2 & 1 hooks using a one-up, one-down rig.  I certainly will be trying queenies but have had success on limpets though.

02-02-2004, 22:43

Hi seaangler, more successful than my trip! What time of day were you fishing? Also what spinner do you use if you don't mind me asking?

Those queenies are a must, me and a friend went last year and pulled out about 25 coalies in the session and you can regularly see other people doing this too.

Looks like I won't get out this week
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Manx Fisher

03-02-2004, 13:20

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No need for such pessemism Hondy - weather and tide are combining perfectly for the stabit tonight - if my theory is correct then we should have coalies, doggies and small callig ... bring plenty of bait !!!

If seaangler and garyth can make it -> 7:30 pm at the stabit (sea terminal end of Loch Prom)

03-02-2004, 14:28

ok, so I can't resist, I have other things I should be doing but you put a good case forward. My frozen bait is now defrosting in the fridge  http://www.worldseafishing.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Time to put the sardine oil to the test properly, I'm going with sand eels and macky fillets, I've got loads so you can have some of that if you want. I'm going to try find some LSD's which I haven't seen for a while.

garyth

03-02-2004, 17:54

id love to join u guys but ive work commitments  http://www.worldseafishing.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif ....however i shall be out at the wk end with abit of luck gonna give derby haven a go i think.....provideing the boss wants to go too lol...good luck for tonight guys n let us all know how u get on

04-02-2004, 00:46

Well, no coalies but I found my dogfish, 6 of them to be exact!

Manx Fisher

04-02-2004, 10:01

As predicted - doggies (lots, and the first for a while) and coalies (for some of the more skillfull anglers  http://www.worldseafishing.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif )and even a rockling.

What a difference a bit of wind makes - 2 weeks ago, same spot = virtually no fish.

seaangler

10-02-2004, 14:32

Hi guys,

Sorry I couldn't join you on that trip.  I've been rather busy with one thing and another.  Less to do now so hopefully that means more fishing.  Hondy the spinners used are normally 28grm silver sandeels on a slow and deep retrieve at our shallow venue.  I usually fish the flood as this works best for me at this venue.  The ebb produces far less.

I haven't been able to fish the best tides due to other commitments so I've been practising my long range casting.  Hope all of you are catching.  It seems good to catch half a dozen dog's in a session at the moment.

Who went out last weekend during the high winds on saturday - eh.  Anybody?

Manx Fisher

10-02-2004, 14:58

Nope - I chickened out of a trip last weekend. *Had to settle for a 'reccy' of some potential marks instead. *Weather wise, Monday would have been an excellent day to fish the west coast after the gales, but as often seems to be the case work got in the way of fishing http://www.worldseafishing.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif *

Why can't my employer understand that life revolves around weather conditions/tide times and not 9-5 *http://www.worldseafishing.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

10-02-2004, 17:04

thanks seaangler - I'll be sure to try that next time, where do you buy your silver sandeels from? I use veals.co.uk - the sites a bit naff but good service and nice prices.

When are you putting your site live? I want to know how much more work I have to put into mine  http://www.worldseafishing.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Manx Fisher - you know of any jobs that require angling as part of the daily "chores"??  http://www.worldseafishing.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Manx Fisher

10-02-2004, 17:34

Hmm ... I have thought long and hard about finding a way to earn a living out of my passion in life, but I never could see a way without leaving the good 'ole Isle of Man .... Hats off to those few who do manage.  I can't imagine they make much money for what must be a lot of hard work.  I think journalism is the way in, but after that http://www.worldseafishing.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

I guess we will have to settle on a job which pays enough to buy all the tackle we want and gives us enough holidays / time off to go fishing.

If I ever win the lottery I am setting up my services as a fishing guide - it would be something to do, and would be helping other anglers at the same time.

garyth

10-02-2004, 19:58

well good luck with the lottery manxfisher...il be one of ur first customers for finding venues.

had a wander round derby haven to see if and where its possible to go off but i think i must be blind when it comes to finding good places to go off without either getting soaked or haveing to stay in the spot till the tide goes back out http://www.worldseafishing.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif.   ive recently bought a new beach caster for myself and the ball n chain..but can i find a good beach to go off?http://www.worldseafishing.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif? am i really so thick http://www.worldseafishing.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

11-02-2004, 10:32

Lottery, definately the way to go  http://www.worldseafishing.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

You don't have to use your beachcaster on a beach Garyth! You might want to try up north at the Point of Ayre somewhere - there's lots of places up there - you may want to try my (unfinished) site for some ideas for marks.

(Sorry in advance for the blatent plug for my site but...)
http://www.manxseafishing.com/manxmarks.html

Manx Fisher

12-02-2004, 11:54

The bad news is that the lottery numbers were wrong again last night...

... the good news is that the weather forecast is fine right through to the weekend.  On the back of this I am tentatively planning a trip to PSM breakwater on Saturday from 3pm to 6pm if any of you other 'Manxies' are interested...

Hopefully there will be a few coalies down the side at the point http://www.worldseafishing.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

garyth

15-02-2004, 11:35

terry, sorry couldnt make it saturday was hopeing to persuade the other half to go but wot with valentines n all it didnt go down too well lol.

how did u get on?  gonna try get some done this week as im on holiday for the week.

18-02-2004, 00:10

Sorry for dragging this one up again, I thought you might like to know the coalies were at the Battery Pier tonight Garyth. I caught them with lug on a floating hook down the side of the inside face of the breakwater. They were small but coalfish none the less!

Manx Fisher

18-02-2004, 23:29

You couldn't let this thread rest...

... little coalies at Battery Pier you say... well I s'pose it would be a good time for me to confess that i completely blanked at PSM the other day.  I think it was my penance for going fishing instead of taking the 'other half' out on valentines day  http://www.worldseafishing.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

Long live the coalies thread !!!

19-02-2004, 01:32

like they say, a bad days fishing is better than a good day at work ;)

seaangler

24-02-2004, 18:10

Hiya guys,

I've not be able to use the computer for just over two weeks so I'm completely out of sink.  I just read all the bits and pieces in order to catch up.  Firstly sorry that I couldn't make the trip.  However I've been out a few times and had the odd coalie spinning nothing major just under a pound or less.  Hondy I use Veals and Anglers Corner for lures both very good price wise and for realiable delivery.  I unfornuately don't have a car so I have to walk every where these days so getting to Douglas from Port Erin is quite difficult.  My eyesight prevents me driving.  Just though you ought to know.  Let me know when you down near Port Erin.  I am hopefully doing a session a Gansey soon.

garyth

24-02-2004, 22:49

hello again lads

i went for a drive along derby haven today and found a nice place n i was wondering u guys had fished it yet to tell if its worth trying?

as u drive from castletown u pass the ruins on the right
just pass them there is like a v small car parking area is it worth going of this area of the "beach"?

sea angler if ya want a bit of company when u fish gansey any chance ud let me tag along?(depending when it is of course)and if im not intrudeing. maybe il learn something lol.

Manx Fisher

25-02-2004, 10:19

Garyth - I havent fished the beach you are talking about, but I think it should be possible - from memory it is quite clean ground.  A better spot about a mile away is Langness (although this is rocks not beach), drive a bit further on past the ruins, and then turn off towards the Golf Links Hotel, but half way down the single track road take the right turning.  This will bring you to a parking area.  Then it is a bit of a hike either south or east to get to fishing platforms.

Sorry WSF for the blatant plug of another site ... but check out:

http://www.manxseafishing.com/langness.html

seaangler

04-03-2004, 18:54

Hiya all,

Garyth if you want to arrange a trip to Gansey email me on info@seaangler.iofm.net.  Is anybody catching much other than coalies.  I've not had much else other than these buggers as nice as they are.  I miss my doggies.

05-03-2004, 17:33

Ah faithful coalies thread!
It's been a bit dull lately, just a few codling from Douglas, the Dogfish seem to be in short supply at the Battery Pier even.

Roll on Spring
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seaangler

07-03-2004, 18:47

Hiya Guys,

Just be out spinning today (Sunday) at Port Erin and I've just recieved my first blank.  It has certainly gone quiet.  Maybe I am going to experience my first bad March EVER.  So far this month I've only had half a dozen fish all told.  Anybody else catching much around the Island?  I must confess that I am spending alot of time tying rigs and practicing my casting rather than fishing at the moment ready for spring.

08-03-2004, 21:35

Well, I must say I haven't been out as much as I had hoped this month but I can't say I'm surprised about the blank! The few times I have been out this month I have only caught a few coalies, codling etc, nothing actually worth mentioning.

Give it a month or so, it's bound to hot up!  http://www.worldseafishing.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

seaangler

10-03-2004, 15:48

Just waiting for spring now then it will be good fishing.  We all will have to meet up and have a fishing session together.

Manx Fisher

10-03-2004, 19:59

Never mind spring, roll on summer !!!

March = dull in our part of the world.  Brightened up a bit tho with the possibility of a early large mackerel if you know how / where   http://www.worldseafishing.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

April = Deceptive.  Weather is nice by then, and lots of daylight, but the 'sea season' seems to lag a month behind the weather (which is why we still catch summer species in November)

May = Fishies galore, but really it is a month for brushing up on fishing skills, because ...

June = Shore caught tope  http://www.worldseafishing.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif We simply have to have a Manx meet for that !!!

scott

14-03-2004, 15:44

i have just started sea fishing and dont know alot about it has anyone got any tips for me.please

15-03-2004, 13:47

Welcome Scott

That's a very broad question! I'm not going to write it all out again, so sorry WSF (again) but here's something I wrote for beginners...

http://www.manxseafishing.com/beginner.html - i hope this is of use!

Definately up for the tope action Manxy! I'm just looking forward to things other than coalfish, although anything is good at the minute!!

As fro the seasons lag, I think the professor would agree that this is caused by "Specific Heat Capacity"...

15-03-2004, 14:08

You've got to love this thread! Keep it going lads!

No problem about the plug for the Manxseafishing site. We'll add a link to it in the new web directory when we eventually get the new site ready.

Again, any suggestions for the new site can be sent to me at webmaster@worldseafishing.com

Tight Lines

Mike Thrussell Jr

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15-03-2004, 14:31

Long live the Coalies thread! Speaking of which, I had 10 on Saturday http://www.worldseafishing.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Thanks for that Leapingfish, it is just a small site at the moment but I intend it to be a leading Manx site fairly soon!
And for what it's worth, I'll reciprocate the link http://www.worldseafishing.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

(they're a lot of work aren't they?!)

Manx Fisher

15-03-2004, 19:40

Surprised you havent started a lobster thread Hondy (must be too busy thinking up big words like Specific Heat Capacity...)

Hi Scott, and welcome.

Tips for beginners - well the quickest way to learn a lot is to join an angling club in your area. *Even if you don't want to be a match angler, it is still the fastest way to learn and it will teach you how to fish and where and when to fish your local area. *Just turning up to a match to watch will be an invaluable learning experience. *

Failing that, piers are probably the best place to start with as you will not need to cast and again you have the benefit of being able to watch and learn form others. *Most anglers are approachable, and none of us can resist passing on info in the form of stories about our previous successes.

Most importantly, don't think that it is something you will learn overnight. *The truth is that all good anglers are constantly learning - the more you learn, the more questions you end up with. That's the fun of it.

Trying manfully to bring the thread back on course --- coalfish are a good target species for new anglers, as they can of course be caught down the side of piers... http://www.worldseafishing.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

seaangler

23-03-2004, 17:28

Hiya All,

I would just like to say on the coalie thread that I believe they're the more consistently caught fish wether spinning, ledgering and so forth especially through the winter and sping months and what ever the weather even though I did have my first blank in twenty odd years a few weeks ago.

Tight lines all

phill

21-11-2005, 18:20

Has anybody any info on catching these fish from the surf around Anglesey/Llyn. What rigs/bait to use etc.

Any info would be helpfull. Thanks

use creeper if u can get hold of it on 2 hook flapper with size 1 hooks if tides nt strong use a bell wight u wont go much wrong with that good look :)

robertlangford

28-11-2005, 19:13

Hi fellas. Try harbours, particularly on a high tide. Try using a spinning rod, 6 lb line and a 12 g Toby.
I used to fish Manx Fishers beat, mainly the Victoria Pier and Douglas harbour as a lad (35 years ago) but I'm sure there are plenty of good marks on Anglesey. What about Holy Head.
I've caught a lot of fish on blow lug but so long as there is cover they won't be far away. You can also try a sliding float that used to work well as they’re often in mid water or a couple of meters off the bottom..

Robert

Tozer

30-11-2005, 22:34

Manx Fisher

01-12-2005, 22:38

This was one of the first posts ever on the forum - certainly the first to attract more than one or two replies. I suspect it has been transferred several times through various board upgrades and so some of the links/history have been lost.

The n/a in question was a member who originally had the username Paul (which was somehow corrupted in one of the forum moves/upgrades), and I think is currently registered (but not active) as Hondy.

See, I am a font of useless information :D

It was like seeing an old friend when this post popped it's head up again - its harder to kill than a conger .... :)

Manx Fisher

01-12-2005, 23:24

Hi fellas. Try harbours, particularly on a high tide. Try using a spinning rod, 6 lb line and a 12 g Toby.
I used to fish Manx Fishers beat, mainly the Victoria Pier and Douglas harbour as a lad (35 years ago)

Robert

Hi Robert

Times have moved on - we can't get on the Vic Pier now (apart from organised comps) The powers that be deem it too much of a security risk for us to share a pier where passenger ferries occasionally berth, but we are allowed onto the nearby pier which has an oil terminal just begging to be blown up :banghead:

Dan-arneil

01-12-2005, 23:39

Them were the days..ey terry :P

Manxy

08-12-2005, 21:25

Lol "harder to kill than a conger":D :D :D. More Yessirs here than in the House of Keys!
This thread has made excellent reading and given useful tips at the same time. Thanks fellas, long may it continue.

K2_NI

08-12-2005, 21:58

We talking Port Saint Mary here? lol
Some Coalies off that pier.

robertlangford

08-12-2005, 23:36

Hi Robert

Times have moved on - we can't get on the Vic Pier now (apart from organised comps) The powers that be deem it too much of a security risk for us to share a pier where passenger ferries occasionally berth, but we are allowed onto the nearby pier which has an oil terminal just begging to be blown up :banghead:
Hi. I remember a summer when the Russian factory boats where mored up on the vic and where constantly processing herring. The guts, head and swim bladder went over the side and landed in the water. The swim bladders went bobbing off in the current right passed the tower of refuge for weeks. One afternoon after school I wanted to do a bit of maki bashing and couldn’t get to the railing. It was all full of tourists and with the factory ships as well there was even less room than normal.
So I went down the steps and fished between the wall and the ship. As it happened the outflow spout was depositing the guts directly at the bottom of the step. there was a thick scum of scales and debris in the water so I scooped it to one side a bit to get my bait in and thought I saw something big. I did, I caught 5 or 6 coalies the biggest of which was about 13 lbs. nothing in comparison to what we catch in Norway today but for a kid on the Old Vic who spent all his winter evening scratching doggies and 1 lb coalies it was fantastic.

How’s the sound fishing nowadays?

Robert

guts

robertlangford

08-12-2005, 23:38

Does one still call them bloken on the island?
My uncle called pollack callig too.
Robert

Tozer

08-12-2005, 23:48

'the biggest of which was about 13 lbs.'

Is that spelling mistake or something?

By the cheers for clearing the n/a thing up

robertlangford

09-12-2005, 09:53

Hi Tozer.
No, no mistake.
There where even bigger fish there but we couldn't land them. There was about 3 - 4 feet between the harbour wall and the processing ship, maybe a bit more down by the steps.
So there was very little room to play the fish.
Usually these ships stayed at sea and had the herring brought out to them, I'm not sure why they where allowed in that one year. The cold war was very chilly then. It must have been about 1970+. They weren’t allowed to process on Sundays so when I went down on the Sunday there where no guts going into the water and no big coalies until I started throwing scales and stuff in that had collected at the side of the scuppers. Then a few came around, but left again quickly.
The herring boats used to catch even bigger fish in there nets. The locals called them Black Jacks.
They used to catch some huge cod as well 30 and 40 lbers even. But although I worked on a charter boat as a deck hand we never saw any fish like that.

Robert

K2_NI

09-12-2005, 15:35

Does one still call them bloken on the island?
My uncle called pollack callig too.
Robert

Blocken is usually the Northern irish Term for Coalies...
Freaked me out on the I.O.M when everyone called Pollack Calig,
Ballan Wrasse is 'Bollan' or something isn't it?

paid4

09-12-2005, 15:49

Ok cleared up the n/a bit but why does &nbsp keep popping up?

robertlangford

09-12-2005, 18:14

Blocken is usually the Northern irish Term for Coalies...
Freaked me out on the I.O.M when everyone called Pollack Calig,
Ballan Wrasse is 'Bollan' or something isn't it?

My uncle was pretty much born on the beach in Port Erin(rest is cotton socks), nothing Irish about him.
But it could be that they use the same name.
What says manx Fisher or any other Manxman?

Tozer

09-12-2005, 18:31

I had no idea coalies ever got that big near the shore.

i have problems trying to imgine catching a 4lb one from the shore, 99% of the ones I see are 4" long, and leave me wonder how the hell they crammed a 2/0 in there mouths!!

K2_NI

09-12-2005, 19:34

Had Coalies to 5lb off Port Saint Mary Breakwater...
Fished Port Erin but they all seemed to be small....
Luck to break 2lb where I fish usually.

Manx Fisher

10-12-2005, 23:47

coalies = blocken, or sh1t1es (sewer outfalls are hot spots for them)
Pollack = callig
Ballan pronounced Bollan

Apart from that we are completely normal ... ;)

Yes, PSM breakwater offers comfortable fishing and possibility of big coalies, which much prefer the freely available scallops than any fancy bait :)

Do you venture over here often K2_NI ?

(8 pages long and still tentaively 'on topic :D )