back up engine

[sammyjo]

i have a 17 foot micro plus with a 50 hp motor but no back up engine , im guessing that 4hp may not do the job if needed coz im in tidal waters and may not push against a tide flow, if im correct can anyone advise wat size would do for back up.

[Shropfisher]

8 or 9 hp seems to be the norm, won't getting up to water ski'ing speed but sahould tackle most sensible tides.

[sammyjo]

:giveup: :giveup: thanks mate just thought 4hp was to small when a freind of mine took a dingy out with a 4 hp but seemed to have problems against the tide:boat:

[harpo]

i have a 17 foot micro plus with a 50 hp motor but no back up engine , im guessing that 4hp may not do the job if needed coz im in tidal waters and may not push against a tide flow, if im correct can anyone advise wat size would do for back up.

mate has micropluss and we fish from penarth,barry,swansea and fishgaurd he has a 55hp main engine and a6hp 4stroke auxilary mostly use the aux which pushes the boat against tide realy well

[sammyjo]

mate has micropluss and we fish from penarth,barry,swansea and fishgaurd he has a 55hp main engine and a6hp 4stroke auxilary mostly use the aux which pushes the boat against tide realy well


thanks harpo:boat:

[Naughtydorf18]

I have a 25 hp 4 stroke Tohatsu on my 16 ft Carolina Skiff www.carolinaskiff.com the J16 model. I use my grandfather's old 3 hp Johnson as my get me out of S*&t device. If all else fails, use MANPOWER and ROW

[blueskip]

Sammyjoe this debate comes up regularly & there are always 2 distinct camps about it, those who say bigger is better, & those who say smaller is ample. Its down to weight & space really, if you are happy to have an 8-9HP sat on the back then that's your choice, I tend to be a smaller is good enough person, if push comes to shove wait for the tide to turn, you wont push a 17footer much faster with a 9 than you will with a 4!
I have a Suzuki DT4.5 as my back-up, & last week I bought an old Seagull Silver Century 5HP, which is a non-runner but I will do it up as a spare, spare, for a tenner I couldn't turn it down, the 5 bladed prop is worth that! Between them they will last me the rest of my boating life as auxillaries.
blueskip

[Bill Brennan]

Sammyjoe this debate comes up regularly & there are always 2 distinct camps about it, those who say bigger is better, & those who say smaller is ample. Its down to weight & space really, if you are happy to have an 8-9HP sat on the back then that's your choice, I tend to be a smaller is good enough person, if push comes to shove wait for the tide to turn, you wont push a 17footer much faster with a 9 than you will with a 4!
I have a Suzuki DT4.5 as my back-up, & last week I bought an old Seagull Silver Century 5HP, which is a non-runner but I will do it up as a spare, spare, for a tenner I couldn't turn it down, the 5 bladed prop is worth that! Between them they will last me the rest of my boating life as auxillaries.
blueskip

I have just been given a seagull 5HP engine which I intend to use as a back up engine on my warrior. The engine needs a good looking at. Any advice on giving it a good service. What ratio of petrol/oil do i mix. Any advice please.

[fishy Finger]

Bill,
here is a good site www.britishseagull.co.uk/history.php (http://www.britishseagull.co.uk/history.php) plenty of info about the seagull's

Cheers Steve

[back lash]

hi i run a few differant size seagulls and i think they are great little grafters the feul mix is 10/1 and the points need to be set at .035 thou try this site for all your info on them www.seagullparts.co.uk/

[icecutter]

i run a micro plus with a 60 mariner and i have 7 mariner back up..im changing this to a seagull as the mariner is far to heavy to lug about and most times gets left in the car so its no good at tall

[sammyjo]

thanks all for the replys :clap3:

[blueskip]

Bill Brennan, if in fact she is a 5HP Silver Series (usually with a 5 bladed prop) then the fuel mix will be 25:1, lots of people think that all Seagulls are 5HP but they are not, lots of 40Plus, get advertised as "5HP Seagull" when in fact they are only 2-3HP!
Look at the serial number on the engine block, write it down, then go to www. sos.co.uk this will tell you not only what model it is, but the year, & month it was made.
They look awful, make an awful noise, but haven't they got an awful lot of boaters out of the s**t!
blueskip

[Nos4r2]

yep....gotta go with BlueSkip on that.

Icecutter BEWARE using a seagull 40+(if that's what your engine is) as a backup on a microplus-they are a bit too small. I had one on a microplus 500 and it'd barely move it against the wind. I switched to a crescent 5hp as an auxiliary and that was better but not fantastic-still barely made 2 knots (*the crescent 5hp is actually the equivalent to a 4hp) Could have done with a 6hp.

[sammyjo]

thanks to all that replyed i have a insight in to it now i think it will be a 6 hp :clap3: :clap3: :boat: :boat:

[sammyjo]

yep....gotta go with BlueSkip on that.

Icecutter BEWARE using a seagull 40+(if that's what your engine is) as a backup on a microplus-they are a bit too small. I had one on a microplus 500 and it'd barely move it against the wind. I switched to a crescent 5hp as an auxiliary and that was better but not fantastic-still barely made 2 knots (*the crescent 5hp is actually the equivalent to a 4hp) Could have done with a 6hp.


same problem my friend had but he cud not get moving against the tide so he had to come in with the tide:boat:

[glasgowdan]

The small tohatsu 2 stroke engines are lovely light things - we got a new 4hp one with our 16ft fastliner and it could be lifted and carried by a baby! (well, almost). With auxillaries I would rather go lighter than heavier as it does add a lot of hassle to the trip having to lug about a big 7-8hp engine. A small 4hp could even be left bolted to the auxillary bracket during transit if its a really sturdy one

[uptide]

i use a seagull aux and it got me out of trouble around worms head .its around 40 yrs old .and its never let me down .but i have only used it the once (never been so scared in my life) loads of parts available and nice and cheap

[Nos4r2]

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[sammyjo]

i am glad this poped up again ,i posted it in feb 06 and in my opinion a lot of people dont relise that 4/5 hp can sometimes be under power against a tidel pull?

yes they seem fine on lakes and ponds but as i found out latley my brother went out on a dingy in wales and found it hard going against the tide too so if it helps
he was usesing a 4hp and was getting nowwere so imo if he was a good way out on a microplus or any other boat he cud of had a big problem ,
im putting a 6hp on for pease of mind:clap3: