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SuperBassMaster
05-01-2007, 00:59
will i be eventually able to cast with my sl20sh? i have 20lb line and at the mo the big brakes. i can reach about 100yds at the mo. what is the limit?
crazyplums
05-01-2007, 11:31
i would say alot depends on the rod being used, the tuning of the reel (a reel tuned for casting isn't necessarily how you'd use it on the beach), casting style, etc.
Ravelling Tangler
05-01-2007, 14:46
CP if I guess he's using 5 oz on a Greys GRX sport, a leader (of course) and the spool nearly full,
if he changes to 2 small blocks and light oil and he has a sound technique, would he top out at about 160-190 yd or so (in the field) ?
with line that thick (let's assume it is 0.40 mm) would it make much difference whether you used OTG or pendulum for maximum distance ?
SuperBassMaster
05-01-2007, 15:10
use it with 6 ozs on my greys apollo, usually with large clipped down baits on pulleys
Rich pickins
05-01-2007, 16:57
Without knowing what style you can cast, the short answer to the question is that you should be able to get more than 100yds. Do yourself a favour and get some coaching you won`t regret it. You will usually get some tips too about which line to use, leaders etc.,
Just a little bit of advice: Try 12 or 15lb Daiwatournament line, or similar with 60lb leader and also use a 150gm ( 5oz ) instead of 6oz. I`m sure that this will make improvement. But get some proper coaching!
All the best, Rich
Ravelling Tangler
05-01-2007, 19:07
I'm guessing you have a good reason to use 20lb mainline (instead of 12 or 15).
With a big bait, unless there is a gale blowing from behind you, air resistance will both have a significant effect on maximum distance and mean you don't want to reduce braking on the spool as much as we have been suggesting.
If you do get some coaching (and if the end gear you are using is needed for the marks where you may want to cast a long way) tell the coach to make some of the lesson for using big, wind-resistant baits:- he or she may use something like a hockey ball or hard-rubber 'tennis' ball as a substitute for both a 6oz or 7 oz weight, plus the large bait.
And if you have to go for maximum distance sometime you will probably find that the shortest pulley rig that can work will fly better (still true even where the bait is clipped close behind the lead .... I'm guessing the swivel, big beads and clip at the top of the bend in the rig make the difference ?)
fishingflattienatic
05-01-2007, 19:42
a clipped down pulley 20lb line an appollo im assuming your fishing rough ground so 100 yards should be more than ample i dont know many rough marks that even need that sort of diastance a 40-50 yard lob is more than enough
if you wanting bigger distance try stepping down to a 18lb line or a ultra low dia 20lb line
:yeah:
SuperBassMaster
05-01-2007, 20:18
I'm guessing you have a good reason to use 20lb mainline (instead of 12 or 15).
With a big bait, unless there is a gale blowing from behind you, air resistance will both have a significant effect on maximum distance and mean you don't want to reduce braking on the spool as much as we have been suggesting.
If you do get some coaching (and if the end gear you are using is needed for the marks where you may want to cast a long way) tell the coach to make some of the lesson for using big, wind-resistant baits:- he or she may use something like a hockey ball or hard-rubber 'tennis' ball as a substitute for both a 6oz or 7 oz weight, plus the large bait.
And if you have to go for maximum distance sometime you will probably find that the shortest pulley rig that can work will fly better (still true even where the bait is clipped close behind the lead .... I'm guessing the swivel, big beads and clip at the top of the bend in the rig make the difference ?)
yeah ther is good reason 4 the heavy gear, extremely rough ground, chances of good conger and very strong tide pull, i do use as short a pulley as i can just because it is less likely to tangle in the strong flows, didnt realise this would gain me more yards tho, good bonus.
am thinkin i will try and have a lesson or two as my style is quite basic, sort of a self taught semi pendulum.
can hit bigger distances with small baits and lighter line on my f/s set up, was just wondering what the limits are of my heavier gear.
thanks 4 the advice
I have cast a slosh 20 over grass 243yd on 18lb line and a 175g lead and 80lb leader
so its how good is your thumb grip over the high spool..
SuperBassMaster
06-01-2007, 20:08
I have cast a slosh 20 over grass 243yd on 18lb line and a 175g lead and 80lb leader
so its how good is your thumb grip over the high spool..
not too bad, but could do with a inner tube finger stall thingy when its wet.
im guessin that u compete then with casts like that!!
tape a rubber strap to pull over the spool then you dont lose it on the beach
yes i do comps and i am a casting instructor
oh and the slosh i used is my fishing reel it runs yellow rocket fuel and one red brake block
all my daiwa fishing reels are set this way even my SLOSH 50
I fish almost exclusively with slosh 20s in preference to the 525mags i own. I run them slightly overfilled and with 20-25 Ultima F1. I use only 1 tiny white block and have few problems even in a gale.
I find the sloshes with heavier line cast almost as far as the 525s with 15lb line on and the mags set at 4-6.
You need to be extremely careful when using line below 20lb on slosh 20s as the spools will pop if winding in fish from long range 130yds plus. You may also end up needing a new sideplate.
SuperBassMaster
06-01-2007, 23:18
i currently have added no oil at all, not sure how, and have both red blocks in, having no probs at all tho and wonder should i just use 1 red block or 2 clear blocks?
Re Slosh 20
If your a smooth caster try thickish oil (the stuff that comes with them is ok) and one white block. I find the biggest difference with the reels and how they run is to do with line level.
Try 2-3 mm below the lip as a starter and if this is ok then next time when refilling try adding another mm or so of line until you find whats right for you.
PS this tune doesn't suit a slosh 30. In those you deffo need to use a larger red block and dont overfill them too much as they can get a bit hairy.
DoubleShotDamo
07-01-2007, 21:06
I have cast a slosh 20 over grass 243yd on 18lb line and a 175g lead and 80lb leader
so its how good is your thumb grip over the high spool..
That's a good chuck with a slosh. What's your furthest with "normal" gear?
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