Slack line when casting

[brocker_uk]

I just brought my first fixed spool reel and when i go to cast some of the line comes of the spool when i take the bail arm off resulting in a bit of slack line before i make the cast. Is this normal or am i doing something wrong. I tighten the drag before i make the cast and i grip the line against the rod.

[beachcaster]

it sounds to me like you have over filled the spool mate ,is you line comeing over the lip of the spool if so you need to take some off it.dont forget you need a shock leader for casting 10lb for ever ounce you intend to cast.5ozs 50lb shock leader and so on.cheers john.

[brocker_uk]

thanks for the advice john. The line was already on the spool but its doing what you said just coming over the lip so ill take some off.

[stubbs]

Hello brocker i always use fixed spools as i cant get on with multiplyers, leave about 2 or 3 cms short of the lip of the spool and it should be fine and make sure when putting line on spool make sure it is tight. (I only use shock leader if i going to cast out on beach) I hope this is useful to you and happy fishing TIGHT LINES.

[brocker_uk]

Thanks for all the advice

[millser]

leave about 2 or 3 cms short of the lip of the spool and it should be fine

surely this should be 2 or 3 mm instead of cm otherwise there will be an awful lot of friction over the front of the spool.

[Hogsnort]

Hello brocker i always use fixed spools as i cant get on with multiplyers, leave about 2 or 3 cms short of the lip of the spool and it should be fine and make sure when putting line on spool make sure it is tight. (I only use shock leader if i going to cast out on beach) I hope this is useful to you and happy fishing TIGHT LINES.
Hi 2-3cms is too much below the spool lip. You are losing a lot of distance in friction on the spool lip by doing that. 5mm is more like it including your shock leader. Using 0.35mm 15lb mono with the line at that 5mm level on my Daiwa Emcast. A 150 yard cast drops the line level only about about 1.5 cms.

[Hogsnort]

I just brought my first fixed spool reel and when i go to cast some of the line comes of the spool when i take the bail arm off resulting in a bit of slack line before i make the cast. Is this normal or am i doing something wrong. I tighten the drag before i make the cast and i grip the line against the rod.
Hi What is your reel? Some of the cheaper ones have a poor line lay which doesn't help with the problem you are having. See also the other replies to your line level.

[brocker_uk]

Hi Hogsnort, The reel i got is a shakespeare tidewater 60 it was brought as part of a rod and reel combo. On the spool it got 180m 045 20lb so i don't know if that's what line is on there as the line was on the spool when i opened it

[JimmyC]

It also could be the type of line your using, some line is very stiff and springy.

Hope you sort out the problem

Jim C:)

[Black Beard]

I just brought my first fixed spool reel and when i go to cast some of the line comes of the spool when i take the bail arm off resulting in a bit of slack line before i make the cast. Is this normal or am i doing something wrong. I tighten the drag before i make the cast and i grip the line against the rod.

The reason you are getting lose line is because you are trying to hold the line against the rod.

This simply does not work with anything over 4oz. Strongly suggest you try it as in the picture. Also use a leather finger stall from a chemist on your casting finger.

Good luck - Neil

[stubbs]

surely this should be 2 or 3 mm instead of cm otherwise there will be an awful lot of friction over the front of the spool.

Yes your right thats what i meant 2 or 3 mm sorry about my STUPID mistake.:giveup:

[Hogsnort]

Hi Hogsnort, The reel i got is a shakespeare tidewater 60 it was brought as part of a rod and reel combo. On the spool it got 180m 045 20lb so i don't know if that's what line is on there as the line was on the spool when i opened it
Hi at £15 retail for that reel it is unlikely to have the nice oscillating line lay you get on more expensive reels. It does make a big difference to your casting enjoyment having the right reel.
My own reels are a Shimano Biomaster 8000 a Daiwa Emcast 6000 and Daiwa Millionmax all of these and others have that special line lay.

Ian may have put his "finger" on one of your line problems though!

[mick.p]

I fill mine to about 2mm from the spool lip.
Make sure the line on the spool is nice and tight. Some people just rely on the weight of the lead when retrieving and this can create loose coils. especially if pumping the rod.
I always keep my line under tension by holding it between thumb and finger when reeling in.

[Issy]

I got to say thet .045 sounds very thick for 20lb line I have some 25lb that is only .035 and 19lb that is .031 so it may be the quality of the line that is the problem.

[brocker_uk]

thanks for all your advice. I had a spare spool with the reel so i think ill try different line and see how that works out and thanks for the pic showing how to hold the line. I have only used multipliers before so all this fixed spool stuff is all new to me.

[JimmyC]

Issy,
Have you the decimal point in the wrond place?:kissing:

Jim C:giveup:

[spill]

Black beard hit the nail on the head. You shouldn't have any line come off before the cast - no matter what line you have or how much of it you have on the spool.

[philtherod]

BB is spot-on. ANY fixed-spool user should put 2 fingers either side of the stem of the FS reel, then pick up the line with the index finger, only then put the bale arm over. ALSO the line from the rod tip to the lead should remain taut right up to casting. Slack line at this point can be disastrous if a loop of line gets round the tip ring, when a crack-off or even worse a broken rod tip can occur. If there is a flailing loop by the reel, a spacer to shorten the line from reel spool to finger should cure that problem.

philtherod

[Skatenchips]

Once you have sorted out yourl line prob on the spool
and are happy...but still have problems holding the line
when you disengage the bail arm when you cast.
Ok....you can try to hold the line against the rod blank
as was mentioned,but in the wet or with slimy hands
it dont work for me............solution..!!!!

A Breakaway Cannon

http://www.breakaway-tackle.com/index.php/cPath/56?osCsid=de5df15f68a5bd22c418814d0525e181

If im doing a conventional lob cast this gizmo taped to the rod blank
directly above the reel spool takes all the pressure off your fingers.
Just loop the line over the the little metal stud engage the clip to lock it in place
place your finger on the cannon trigger...........and away you go
Bloody good bit of kit..!!!!!!!!
I can compress a cast far better now without any worry of line slippage.
Gaz :)

[oldchukka]

The reason you are getting lose line is because you are trying to hold the line against the rod.

This simply does not work with anything over 4oz. Strongly suggest you try it as in the picture. Also use a leather finger stall from a chemist on your casting finger.

Good luck - Neil spot on b.b a good picky saves a hundred words.

[dene aldbrough]

my guess is that the line being that thick and on the spool for however long will be like a giant sprig and the slightest bit of slack and bang the sprin unloads get yourself a bulk spool off 15 lb load within 2 mm as previous people sugested tie on your shock leader and you should be sorted
dene