Bait DIGGERS

[DAVE H]

SHOULD bait diggers need a have permit and pay the tax man his bit .
as there seem a lot at it and are cleaning beaches out of RAG and LUG there is only so many worms and as with black worms i have seen them getting smaller
over the years. which is a sign that they are not getting to full maturaty befor they get harvested.

[David Gould]

SHOULD bait diggers need a have permit and pay the tax man his bit .
as there seem a lot at it and are cleaning beaches out of RAG and LUG there is only so many worms and as with black worms i have seen them getting smaller
over the years. which is a sign that they are not getting to full maturaty befor they get harvested.



NO license to sea anglers

Just license bait diggers who supply shops and license the shops to sell bait and prove by certificate and or self employment documents who supplies their bait ...Watch the bait beds recover over night.

It is far easier to control say 5000 bait supply outlets and their limited number of bait diggers rather than create a monster blanket licensing system for all sea anglers who may occasionally want to collect bait that will bog its self down right from day one.

[crazyplums]

NO license to sea anglers

...Watch the bait beds recover over night.

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so bang goes the last minute fishing trip then, missed low tide, go to the shop... but... oh no, no worms no one wants to dig anymore cos they now have to pay tax on their 10-15p a worm, and the shop won't pay the 25p a worm tha they now want to cover tax and fuel

these guys got off their arse to get em at 4am, would you ? 8/9 days out of 14?,

i dig my own where possible, but rely on the diggers, many who do it around their day jobs (self employed mostly),

[oldchukka]

will you lot stop it. every time i hear that word l------ i cringe - it should be deleted from the english dictionary. do,nt you know that every time its mentioned some little jobsworth rubs his hands and say,s, - another way to raise revenue.
as for the word t-x it should be changed to tacks, and only be refered to when re-felting a garden shed.
i can just imagine the sight of t-x inspectors, running up and down the low water marks in their geordie pyjamas trying to catch some poor digger trying to earn a crust. --- as for the price you would have to pay, it would be one lug or two sir, except for the wealthy .

ee dave lad thas oppened a reet can o worrums lad

[Bootster]

I've noticed a few threads like this in the past, where people get upset 'pro diggers' nicking all the worms. I can understand why people get a bit frustrated with it, but they're a godsend in areas like Suffolk. My nearest lug bed is about the size of your average living room and the worms smaller than your average maggot! Oh yeah, and it's nearly 40miles away. The next nearest is about 60-70 miles away, I cannot dig my own bait (and believe me I'd love to).

On the tax front, they should be paying tax. Tax law says that if it's earned income then you're liable to income tax, unearned and you're liable to capital gains - they get you either way! All diggers should be paying tax, although if they did I'm some of the less honest ones would have to stop claiming incapacity benefit!

[DINOBOY]

by hitting bait diggers you will pay more in the shop thus more anglers will dig their own bait,this allways means they dig twice as much as they need throwing most of it away:schmoll:

[pigeon ian]

dont you think they tax us enough ..........the diggers deserve every penny they get

[DAVE H]

dont you think they tax us enough ..........the diggers deserve every penny they get

AND THERE DOLE as well
if they call it work let them pay tax and not live of the the tax payer..

[Fly Caster]

Why do you feel the need to tax everything there are only making a living and are doining everyone a favour at the same time just leave them be.

[DAVE H]

I do 4 x 12hours night shifts pay my tax
that puts into paying these lads dole then they go out digging bait for a better life
and give nowt back .
its not just about the brass it what they do to the bait beds .
they are rapping the land for a few £££ let them go and do a job or make digging
a real job pay tax and get respect from the working man..

[philtherod]

When it comes to collecting, the taxman is not daft. With back-door fish at restaurants, the taxman can check receipts against takings, and will assess against the missing bit, UNLESS the restauranteur can supply the name, address, etc of the supplier of the fish. Bait from diggers is exactly the same. If the dealer wants to pay someone elses tax due because he cannot or will not give the name and address of the digger, thats up to him. The diggers are watched, and may be videoed, as are the crab collectors in S. Devon...i've seen the people collecting this evidence, and I agree with Dave H that diggers should pay taxes as a self-employed person, and join the ranks of the great self-assessed. There are some advantages, being able to offset clothing and equipment costs, fuel, etc., against income.

philtherod

[smoothound54]

messing around with the demand side if the market rarely works - look at fags and whisky consumption - also upping the price would just exclude the less well off and the less able bodied from the sport.

just as bad is missguided policy on the supply side - like the commercial size limits on fish (throw small fish back) which actually targets the breeding stock

but i guess eventually we need to do something....

maybe a few really important breeding areas should be set aside for non-disturbance? - but that then need policing etc and someone has to pick up the tab

anyway its not just th worm - as they are part of the food chain - fish are at risk too

its not easy - maybe cultivation?

interestin issue tho...

Al

[dabhanded]

is,nt life ****