View Full Version : South Vs South East Friendly Match - Brighton Marina - 28 July 2007
This replaces the original first post because I assume that all who are interested have already signalled their intentions.
Details for the meet on Saturday.
For info on getting to the Marina. Click here http://www.bmwaterfrontshopping.com/howtofindus.htm and there are maps from every conceivable direction.
When entering the Marina, you will come down a slope with Asda on your left hand side and the multi storey car park on your right. At the bottom of the slope is a roundabout. If you turn right at this roundabout you will see a McDonalds on the right hand side of the road. The Tackle Box is up on the left hand side. There is a car park at the back of McDonalds and you can park in here for a bit if there is space available.
We will meet up from around 4pm at The Tackle Box at Brighton Marina. I reckon an hour or so of meeting and greeting, milling about, general chit-chat, collecting bait, buying tackle, organising ferrying down of anglers plus kit to the East Arm and getting cars parked up in the multi storey.
Anyone arriving later than 5pm or so will need to park their car in the multi storey and make their own way down to the East Arm. Or you can drive down to the East Arm, bring your kit along to here we’ll be (somewhere after Peg 26) then drive back to the multi storey, park up and head back to the East Arm on foot without having to lug your kit. For info on directions within the Marina http://www.brightonmarina-seafishing.co.uk/index.htm go here.
Any who want to arrive earlier to get on down to the Arm and start pleasure fishing are welcome to do so – we’ll catch up with you later. Bear in mind though there may be an additional charge for the period up to 6pm.
The draw for the match will take place at 5.45 pm. By then we will know how many anglers we have, how many free pegs we have and therefore how many double and triple pegs we’ll need. Once the draw is done and, for those who are entering, the pool money collected, we should have plenty of time to get sorted to fish the match which begins at 6.30pm and runs until 11.30pm.
I will bring with me enough scorecards, plus SAMF length to points charts. The scorecards also have the rules on them and the NFSA minimum sizes we are fishing to. Please could you bring pens, measures and something to lean on when recording fish – a clipboard or a piece of card is ideal.
If the Arms are closed to fishing on the day due to windy conditions, we will still meet at The Tackle Box and decide on an alternative venue which will be within a few miles.
If the weather forecast on Friday suggests that on Saturday the Arm will be unfishable I will post an alternative venue here around 8pm. The current forecast is for very light WSW winds on Saturday and sunny skies! After a couple of days of it blowing quite hard from the SW this will hopefully result in some excellent catches.
Finally, if you need to speak to me for any reason, my mobile number is 07850 713438.
Look forward to seeing everyone on Saturday afternoon.
crazyplums
15-06-2007, 14:57
meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee :-)
And IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ! ... for once I'm off work on a meet lol
crazyplums
16-06-2007, 10:26
Mark, think it might be an idea to put this thread in the general south coast section, i'm sure the majority of members never look in this meets section, i'm gonna do the same with the dover thread too, here and on the south forum, just don't get the level of replies that you would outside this area.
Fair comment, Hugh - but the mods will move it!
The Bandit
16-06-2007, 14:00
How do you propose fishing positions will be decided?
crazyplums
16-06-2007, 15:46
Fair comment, Hugh - but the mods will move it!
i've often put meets into the main area, without them being moved, i'm sure if you put it there for a time, it'll be ok !
Vicfisher
16-06-2007, 16:26
I'll be up for this one.
How do you propose fishing positions will be decided?
All the bays are numbered, so positions could be decided by a draw before kick off.
Put me in for a fiver.
How do you propose fishing positions will be decided?
Open to suggestions really. The arm is pegged already. If we have enough to justify booking a stretch of the arm - advice please on minumum numbers, Fishyrob - then we could draw pegs but divide the total number of pegs into two groupings, one for each team, so that members from opposite teams are adjacent to each other - the aim being to ensure that all fish are signed for by a member of the opposite team. We'd need to make allowance for variable numbers on each side. If not going for pegged then a walk off with the proviso that any fish are signed for by a member of the other team. I'd be happy either way.
A tweak on that could be that if people want to fish in pairs so they're with someone they know then we could divide the pegs into groups of double pegs.
If we do not have enough to warrant booking our own dedicated length of the arm then it will have to be a walk off rover in pairs, threes or fours made up from both teams - that way we could keep to fish being signed for by someone from the oppo side.
The main aim is to have a sociable and friendly meet with an equally friendly comp. Since that's all pretty much off the top of my head, if anyone has better suggestions let's have 'em
andy colmer
21-06-2007, 14:34
Fair comment, Hugh - but the mods will move it!
No I won't!! :wiggle:........There has to be a fair amount of flexibility within the rules; this is a fishing forum after all. If it will allow better advertising and consequent attendance of the meet, then fair play.
Apart from anything else...............I hope to be there!!
All the best.
Andy. :happy:
No I won't!! :wiggle:........There has to be a fair amount of flexibility within the rules; this is a fishing forum after all. If it will allow better advertising and consequent attendance of the meet, then fair play.
Apart from anything else...............I hope to be there!!
All the best.
Andy. :happy:
As I shall be and Andy and I seem to be inextrciably stuck together, so shall Andy.
Oh Sh*T, ive just realised what I said.:giveup:
what is the optional pool for? Biggest fish? winner of the comp? most fish? or most species.
I would like to say at the essex vs kent matches some people complained when pools were introduced.
Pools can be divided between any or all of those categories, Jassyfa. For this one it could be best round fish, best flatfish, most fish and most points overall. Say 25% each one. So if ten anglers bung in a fiver each then the winner of each pool gets back £12.50. Twenty put in and its £25 for each pool winner. The percentages could be altered also to say 20% for the first three pools and 40% for the overall highest points total. As its entirely voluntary then the pools will only be divided among those who put in. Its just a side thing really and we can agree on the categories and the split later.
Tally for the south forum so far seems to be:
Mark_s
Crazyplums
vic fisher
top cat
Andy Colmer
Edgey
Geffaz
Jamie D
Tom Parker
Assume Fishyrob is fishing but as he is an Essex boy I would hate to assume he will be flying the South forum's flag! Come on Rob - choose your colours!
Any more?
Just posted this on the parallel thread on the SE Forum
My initial thoughts on timings were for us to meet up around 4pm to give us plenty of time for a bit of socialising and to aim for the match itself to run from something like 6.30pm to 11.30pm. That means that we fish the main flood tide basically and finish the comp relatively early so that those who have a long way to travel will be able to hit the road at something like a reasonable time. Plus it means we fish a good chunk of the match in daylight. Fishyrob and one or two others know the marina much better than me and will doubtless advise whether those timings are okay in terms of catching fish.
Just floating some ideas here though guys and trying to get us organised a bit- not trying to dictate anything. What do you reckon?
Grant Letts
22-06-2007, 16:41
Hi,
Could well be up for this one.
What sort of time are you thinking of kicking off proceedings?
Its an hour and a half minimum for me really to anywhere really including Brighton.
Grant.
Tally for the south forum so far seems to be:
Mark_s
Crazyplums
vic fisher
top cat
Andy Colmer
Edgey
Geffaz
Jamie D
Tom Parker
Assume Fishyrob is fishing but as he is an Essex boy I would hate to assume he will be flying the South forum's flag! Come on Rob - choose your colours!
Any more?
Yes! :rolleyes:
Yes! :rolleyes:
My apologies, Steve - obviously a senior moment to leave you out when you were the second one to confirm!
Hi,
Could well be up for this one.
What sort of time are you thinking of kicking off proceedings?
Its an hour and a half minimum for me really to anywhere really including Brighton.
Grant.
Replied to your PM, Grant. My current thinking, though I am open to suggestions, is as set out in my post above. Meet up around 4pm and kick the match off to go from 6.30pm to 11.30pm to fish the flood tide over a mixture of daylight and darkness to give us the best chance of a decent range of species. The meet itself can last much longer if there are those like me who will probably want to fish on for a few hours more but as there will be those with long distances to travel I am anxious that they can get away at a reasonable time if they so wish. By knocking off the match at 11.30pm I would reckon that those leaving after the results are tallied up can be on the road shortly after midnight.
The updated list of those coming from the South Forum is:
Mark_S
Crazyplums
Mesito
vic_fisher
top cat
Andy Colmer
Edgey
Geffaz
Jamie D
Tom Parker
Blue Moon
with Fishyrob's allegiances still undeclared!
Be great if one or two more from Hants and Dorset could face making the trek....
Tally for the south forum so far seems to be:
Mark_s
Crazyplums
vic fisher
top cat
Andy Colmer
Edgey
Geffaz
Jamie D
Tom Parker
Assume Fishyrob is fishing but as he is an Essex boy I would hate to assume he will be flying the South forum's flag! Come on Rob - choose your colours!
Any more?
Q: How does an Essex Boy turn out the light after sex?
A: Turns off his headlamp.:yucky::yucky::yucky::yucky::yucky:
Q: How does an Essex Boy turn out the light after sex?
A: Turns off his headlamp.:yucky::yucky::yucky::yucky::yucky:
Is this the start of the banter then?
fuzzball
30-06-2007, 10:58
i can make up the numbers for the south if theres space still... only a 2 minute drive for me.... jamie jus dont scare the fish off by taking your boots off again :yucky: :laugh:
Good man, Fuzzball. Looks like the South Coast mob will considerably outnumber the South East lot. Will defo have to be average points per angler per team for the match bit.
The latest update list of those coming from the South Forum is:
Mark_S
Crazyplums
Mesito
vic_fisher
top cat
Andy Colmer
Edgey
Geffaz
Jamie D
Tom Parker
Blue Moon
Fuzzball
BloatedCod
Tony (from SAS) + Tony's dad
with Fishyrob's allegiances still undeclared!
richgodfrey
01-07-2007, 00:21
i Would be well up for this one but transport is an issue for for me, if anyone from the portsmouth/gosport area is going i am more than happy to contribute towarrds fuel costs!! (ill only win it back on the side bets)!!! lol
So we are looking at a 2-1 ratio. Must admit I thought it would about 2-1 or 3-1 in the south favour, due to holidays and it being the away leg. Not to worry Im sure the south east team will not let anybody down with their fishing skills.
crazyplums
01-07-2007, 09:28
So we are looking at a 2-1 ratio. Must admit I thought it would about 2-1 or 3-1 in the south favour, due to holidays and it being the away leg. Not to worry Im sure the south east team will not let anybody down with their fishing skills.
i'm sure you'll do fine, if you lot catch fish at the same rate you did when i almost blanked at pevensey a few weeks back, then we're beat !!! that's the beauty of having it as an average number of points per angler. no-one has the advantage, two anglers doing well, could beat a team of 50 doing just ok. !!
Im not worried about us lot competing against you lot, im more concerned about the lack of numbers we are bringing, its an embaressment to the south east forum.
Also as everybody else from the south east forum is dropping out, then I am going to pick the venue and time for the return match.
fuzzball
02-07-2007, 19:39
so how many fishing the match now then from es and s ?
crazyplums
02-07-2007, 21:50
shame Jassyfa, i can see why some are not fishing, fair play, but others who 'don't want to fish piers', or only fish beaches, etc etc, could surely make a bit more of an effort for their forum, i can't even understand if it's down to being short on cash ( a prob i regularly have, being self employed), the more people who come, the more chance there is of all clubbing together in pool cars !
don't worry though dude, the efort by those comeing will be very much appreciated. hope ron turns up, quite looking forqard to meeting him !
Well Plums my old mate, you have met Thames Rover and his mate and myself, so you know we can fish. Give Ash his dues hes not that bad (his language is a bit crude and please duck when hes casting). Im sure the Kent lot also aint all that bad. Top be honest most of dont care if we are fishing from a beach or a pier just aslong as we are fishing.
Just a little bump to mention that the invitation to all and sundry remains open. There have been some updates on a couple of threads on the SE forum so go have a look. Basically, it is planned to be a 16.00 meet at the Tackle Box by McDonalds at the Marina. Match to be fished from 18.30 to 23.30 on the East Arm with pleasure fishing either side of those times for those who want to. Match rules are measure and release using SAMF length to points table, mackerel do not count, team with best average points per angler wins, match is free - though Marina does charge a couple of quid a rod. No prizes apart from bragging rights but we'll have an optional pool of a fiver for individual best total points, best flat and best round. If the weather is pants and the Marina is unfishable we'll identify a suitable beach within ten miles or so.
Grant Letts
10-07-2007, 16:30
Nice One Mark,
I am still well up for it but wont be able to get there for the meet at the Tackle box. I have Hughs number so will call when i am parked to find out where you boys will be. I plan to be on the road by 4,30 - 4,45 and with you by 6,00 fingers crossed.
My only concern is Bait!!!! what time does the tackle box shut???? or if possible i can buy bait over the phone if someone would be kind enough to grab it for me????:notworthy
Cheers Guys.
Grant.
Few questions for this match
1) how much is the parking and how safe is it
2) what are we likely to catch
3) what bait do we need
4) how snaggy is it
5) how are we picking pegs (just oincase there are 10 south forum blokes together, its a bit unfair for them to walk to the nearest south east fisherman)
fuzzball
10-07-2007, 23:07
Few questions for this match
1) how much is the parking and how safe is it
2) what are we likely to catch
3) what bait do we need
4) how snaggy is it
5) how are we picking pegs (just oincase there are 10 south forum blokes together, its a bit unfair for them to walk to the nearest south east fisherman)
parking is free in the multi storey... jus a bit of a walk to the east arm.... pretty safe too normally some security about but well lit area ...casino just opposit ( always porsches ouside)
bass smoothhound sole pouting pollock mackerel garfish bream
jus the normal baits .. squid if bassing lug ...peelers rag, taking a few
east arm is less snaggy i fished 4 hours lost 1 rig.... there is sandy parts there in wit the rocks
cant answer the last 1:uhuh:
thats what i know a bit about.. hope it helps
fuzzball
10-07-2007, 23:12
oh yeah some mackerel caught today ...didnt see much more there, high was at 8.... looked great for fishing .... this was west arm ....but i prefer east arm
Few questions for this match
1) how much is the parking and how safe is it
2) what are we likely to catch
3) what bait do we need
4) how snaggy is it
5) how are we picking pegs (just oincase there are 10 south forum blokes together, its a bit unfair for them to walk to the nearest south east fisherman)
What fuzzball says for 1-4. For 5, what do you reckon? Got a few ideas we could kick about. Either we peg it based on the numbers we have in which case we might have the problem you identify or otherwise we come up with some way of ensuring that no angler is more than two pegs from a member of the other team. That would be pretty easy as all we need to do is split the pegs odds and evens into two bags with anglers drawing from the bag relating to their team. Or we could go for something like the champions league draw which would mean a degree of rigging I would want us to do that together before the match, basing it on sheer chance, rather than me cook something up beforehand!! Another alternative is a simple walk-off in pairs or threes from different teams but then there might be some arguing within the pair or three about where to fish!
To complicate things further, I assume that there will be some desire to fish alongside a mate - this is a fun meet after all, not a deadly serious money match. Anyone got any suggestions?
Nice One Mark,
I am still well up for it but wont be able to get there for the meet at the Tackle box. I have Hughs number so will call when i am parked to find out where you boys will be. I plan to be on the road by 4,30 - 4,45 and with you by 6,00 fingers crossed.
My only concern is Bait!!!! what time does the tackle box shut???? or if possible i can buy bait over the phone if someone would be kind enough to grab it for me????:notworthy
Cheers Guys.
Grant.
Grant - I believe the tackle box stays open pretty late. Go to the Brighton marina website for more info. http://www.brightonmarina-seafishing.co.uk/index.htm
I think and hope that we all adults on this site and i would go for pairs to be decided just before the match when we know who is and isnt fishing.
then we could randomly pick people from the other side to fish with and then one of the pairs pick the peg.
The only problem with this is that some of the south east team have a match in the morning and im not 100% sure if they will get to the match on time or even fish the match.
I think and hope that we all adults on this site and i would go for pairs to be decided just before the match when we know who is and isnt fishing.
then we could randomly pick people from the other side to fish with and then one of the pairs pick the peg.
The only problem with this is that some of the south east team have a match in the morning and im not 100% sure if they will get to the match on time or even fish the match.
Agreed, mate. Nice and easy but if the numbers don't tally then maybe threes as well. But one peg will be no good for two or three anglers so maybe we need to only put alternate pegs in the bag. So if we put in, say, pegs 1, 3, 5, 7 etc then the pair that draw peg 1 fish pegs 1 and 2, the pair that draw peg 3 fish pegs 3 and 4 and so on... Make sense?
On timings - I only suggested 6.30 to 11.30 so that those who wanted to get away after would reach home at a reasonable time. With high tide being around 11 we could easily move the match back an hour and kick off at 7.30. Would just mean a bit more pleasure fishing and socialising beforehand for those who get down early. Plus it doesn't have to be five hours so we could still finish at 11.30 if that is what would be most convenient.
18.30 sounds sensible enough, due to tide and travelling it cuts out the early starts and I darer say the traffic wont be that bad around the M25 and the motorway that goes to Brighton at that time of day.
I woul dlike any other ideas from the SE Team as its a team effort and your input is needed.
How many hooks are we using and how many rods. Usually its 1 rod with 3 hooks, or 2 rods with 4 hooks max (1 pennel and a 2 hook flapper down the wall).
Okay, we'll stick at 18.30 start then. Based on previous experience, the M25 and M23 will be reasonably okay in the afternoon whereas in the morning it can be dire - especially if its good weather and half of London seems to want to head for the coast!
As its a friendly match I would be perfectly happy with 2 rods 4 hooks max. Depends what others reckon, though so far its pretty much thee and me deciding stuff!
fishyrob
12-07-2007, 15:25
I would suggest we take bays 15 to 55, as any further inshore and a lot of people will lose tackle - the fishing is still good though - and bays 57 to the last but one are only really fishable over the high water as the defence blocks get in the way. As for number of rods etc, over to Mark. I will go with the staus quo, although I do feel that one rod can be fished more efficiently than focusing on two, but then again, it isnt the Penn finals so whatever makes people smile.......:)
Out of interest, is the other match a WSF forum thing?
15-55 sound good to me. Mostly clean ground from those isn't it?
There was I believe talk of a walk off for the pegs. As I am not very fast on my feet, due to being in plaster from last September to this February, can I please have a head start, or is it now going to be a draw for pegs?
fuzzball
12-07-2007, 20:55
i quite like the sound of 2 rods 4 hooks... gives a chance of 1 bass rod down the side 1 long for other fish.... as this isnt a really high stake match but a friendly meet of anglers,,,, but its up to what everyone wants ..but this gets me vote:) but if both do long range casts may cause tangles all nite
crazyplums
12-07-2007, 21:19
i to like two rods, gives the chance to fish a big fish and a small one, it's not too hard to keep two rods going !
Well heres my input on it all. I think 2 rods would be good (as long as we are spaced adequately). Im going to use my old Fox pier rod and probably my little bass rod, and thats it.
As for the start time i very, very much doubt that i will get to the marina by 1630, due to being at a wedding BBQ from 1200 onwards. I'm going to leave this barbeque early and drive down from Herne Bay to Brighton to fish with everyone. As far as the match goes i really dont care if i come last or who i fish with. As for me im just going for the craic!
I might give float fishing a go (wonder if theres any gars about :) )
As for bait i might order it at the tackle shop in brighton and get siomeone to pick it up for me, (anyone willing to do that for me? :)) or i may order it here in Herne bay, dunno yet. Rag, Squid, Macky and Lug are what im gonna bring. (Note to self 2 score of lug 2 macky a box of squid and 2 dozen Rag are plenty!!)
Should be a reeeeeeeet laff!
The Bandit
13-07-2007, 08:23
Well heres my input on it all. I think 2 rods would be good (as long as we are spaced adequately). Im going to use my old Fox pier rod and probably my little bass rod, and thats it.
As for the start time i very, very much doubt that i will get to the marina by 1630, due to being at a wedding BBQ from 1200 onwards. I'm going to leave this barbeque early and drive down from Herne Bay to Brighton to fish with everyone. As far as the match goes i really dont care if i come last or who i fish with. As for me im just going for the craic!
I might give float fishing a go (wonder if theres any gars about :) )
As for bait i might order it at the tackle shop in brighton and get siomeone to pick it up for me, (anyone willing to do that for me? :)) or i may order it here in Herne bay, dunno yet. Rag, Squid, Macky and Lug are what im gonna bring. (Note to self 2 score of lug 2 macky a box of squid and 2 dozen Rag are plenty!!)
Should be a reeeeeeeet laff!
Best stick some peelers on that list:):)
There was I believe talk of a walk off for the pegs. As I am not very fast on my feet, due to being in plaster from last September to this February, can I please have a head start, or is it now going to be a draw for pegs?
You're alright Edgey - its a draw now!
Looks like we're agreed on 2 rods, 4 hooks max - each peg is a good size so that shouldn't cause any problems but do bear in mind that the Marina charges per rod, so it'll cost you a couple of quid more!
fishyrob
13-07-2007, 12:21
yep, fifteen to fifty five gives pretty much everyone clean ground. Some people will tell you that the bend, 15 to 22 is the hotspot, but to be honest, although it is good when there is a run of tide on it, the higher pegs tend to fish a bit better as the tide eases, so I would call it fairly equal pegging. Removing the inshore pegs also removes the prawn advantage, as it is here that they are particularly deadly. The way it was fishing before I left, you might want to consider allowing mackerel and banning garfish, or limiting or banning both, as it isnt uncommon to take in excess of fifty gars when they are having it. How about a maximum of five of each, or something like that?
I would like banning both as most of the Essex lot have never fished for them before. But this then takes away some of the advantage for the south team, and takes away the skill for fishing for them. I will leave the gar and mackeral for the home team discressison
I love catching gars and macks, especially on the float, but would be perfectly happy for them to be banned from the match. Apart from anything else, the length to points charts exclude them so they would have to be weighed or allocated a nominal weight. May be easier just to exclude them though noting whoppers comments above about float fishing people can still fish for them if they want.
fishyrob
13-07-2007, 12:55
Cool, lets exclude both from the competition. You will want to be catching a few before the competition though, as fresh mackerel will be on your must have bait list. Live mackerel should be very "in" as a primary bass bait by then also, especially as we will be fishing into dark on a flooding tide.
Mark, could you post the full list of minimum sizes, or, as it is measure and release, does everything count?
Any of you Essex boys going to bring some harbour rag down? Should you want to bring an extra hundred or so for me, I will happily swap something local for them.......
Any of you Essex boys going to bring some harbour rag down? Should you want to bring an extra hundred or so for me, I will happily swap something local for them.......
yeah - three sticks of rock and a gay pride badge!
Grant Letts
13-07-2007, 13:34
Spoke to the tackle box this morning re bait, they shut at 5,30 which is tight time wise for me! However the chap said they will give bait to the chap who sells the tickets to fish on the pier who will give it to me when i get down:g:
Has anyone ever experienced this before or am i getting tucked up for buying bait and then it not appearing???? If this isnt the case would someone mind picking my bait up (already paid for) so i can collect when i get down????
Cheers,
Grant.
I usually dig my own bait, harbour rag is a bit of a rariety these days unless you specificlly dig for them. Most of the match fishermen use them by the thousands for comps.
Grant Letts
13-07-2007, 14:35
Alternativley if any of you guys are digging / collecting their own bait and fancy digiing a bit more for current market price!! i am happy to pay the nescassary.
You're alright Edgey - its a draw now!
Looks like we're agreed on 2 rods, 4 hooks max - each peg is a good size so that shouldn't cause any problems but do bear in mind that the Marina charges per rod, so it'll cost you a couple of quid more!
I shall be there for about 4.30pm, if anyone wants me to get bait for them send me a PM in time for me to order it.
Thanks for letting us have a draw for Pegs
fishyrob
13-07-2007, 20:24
I shall be there for about 4.30pm, if anyone wants me to get bait for them send me a PM in time for me to order it.
Thanks for letting us have a draw for Pegs
I have to say, I was in favour of a walk off..... The thought of Henry attempting to run was in my mind worthy of video footage.......... Especially if he comes to Brighton early, and allows me to introduce him to some of the better pubs in the area........... Remember, this is the chap who managed to deposit himself in the River Orwell...........
fishyrob
13-07-2007, 20:27
I usually dig my own bait, harbour rag is a bit of a rariety these days unless you specificlly dig for them. Most of the match fishermen use them by the thousands for comps.
I reckon I could manage five hundred an hour from Benfleet Creek, and that is by hand, ie without a digging instrument. I would be very suprised if you guys didnt realise this....... You just have to be a bit carefull of the broken glass.......
I have dug at maddies at benfleet creek, its not all that any more, remember al the match fishermen use maddies by the ton.
I have to say, I was in favour of a walk off..... The thought of Henry attempting to run was in my mind worthy of video footage.......... Especially if he comes to Brighton early, and allows me to introduce him to some of the better pubs in the area........... Remember, this is the chap who managed to deposit himself in the River Orwell...........
How dare you sir. I'll have you know I did not deposit myself in the River Orwell.
It was the river Alde!!!!!!!!!!
Best stick some peelers on that list:):)
Doubt i will be able to get any to be honest :)
The days before the comp I wil be digging lug and maddies, fish bait will on order and I will look around the groynes for crabs
Grant Letts
16-07-2007, 12:08
What is the participant list looking like now then???? I mentioned this meet to my Brother in Law and he is well up tagging along as well. The more the merrier i hope?? He has fished a WSF meet at pevensey before and has met Hugh before.
What is the participant list looking like now then???? I mentioned this meet to my Brother in Law and he is well up tagging along as well. The more the merrier i hope?? He has fished a WSF meet at pevensey before and has met Hugh before.
Yep - the more the merrier! Have added your Bro in law to the list
Line Up for the South:
Mark_S
Crazyplums
Mesito
vic_fisher
top cat
Edgey
Geffaz
Jamie D
Tom Parker
Blue Moon + Peter
Fuzzball
BloatedCod
Tony (from SAS) + Tony's dad
Andy Atkins is a probable.
For the South East it is:
Jassyfa
Wriggy
Whopper
Misfit
Thames Rover plus 1
OneCodBob
Exoticburm
Fishyrob
Cascars and Tall Tim are possibles and Ron might be there in his thong and dancing shoes.
So still plenty of room with 40 bays booked. Anyone who fancies it, get your name down - there are a good few regular meet attenders who have not yet declared!
Hi Mark,
Andy Colmer won't be able to make it that day, he is on Baby-sitting duty.
Grant Letts
16-07-2007, 14:10
Nice One!!!! Bro in Law is called Peter to make life easier!!
Thanks for info Edgey and Grant. Have edited the list accordingly. Shame AC can't come....
Latest revision - at this rate the SE guys will outnumber the home team.
Line Up for the South:
Mark_S
Crazyplums
Mesito
vic_fisher
top cat
Edgey
Geffaz
Jamie D
Tom Parker
Blue Moon + Bro in Law
Fuzzball
BloatedCod
Tony (from SAS) + Tony's dad
Andy Atkins is a probable.
For the South East it is:
Jassyfa
Wriggy
Whopper
Misfit
Thames Rover plus 1
OneCodBob
Exoticburm
Fishyrob
Ashley_Southend
sjp1979
Cascars and Tall Tim are possibles and Ron might be there in his thong and dancing shoes.
fuzzball
17-07-2007, 22:18
getting a nice number of people for the meet i see now...im looking forward to it and meeting a few of you.if the missus finishes work on time,i should be there by 4.30 - 5.00 ,
:secret:
tacke box next to pub, ,intresting place to meet
Further update - the SE have added another to their team.
Line Up for the South:
Mark_S
Crazyplums
Mesito
vic_fisher
top cat
Edgey
Geffaz
Jamie D
Tom Parker
Blue Moon + Bro in Law
Fuzzball
BloatedCod
Tony (from SAS) + Tony's dad
Andy Atkins
For the South East it is:
Jassyfa
Wriggy
Whopper
Misfit
Thames Rover plus 1
OneCodBob
Exoticburm
Fishyrob
Ashley_Southend
sjp1979
mjiamnot
Cascars, Tall Tim are possibles and maybe Ron in Fred Astaire mode.
Grant Letts
18-07-2007, 16:59
Looks like a belter of a turn out!!!! Really looking forward to it now.
fuzzball
19-07-2007, 19:04
be great if smuts and bass turn up
be great if smuts and bass turn up
It will be even better if half team south east turn up.
crazyplums
19-07-2007, 21:38
i think my boy will be coming too, fishing for the S of course, there's no silly age limits is there ?
fuzzball
19-07-2007, 23:13
i think my boy will be coming too, fishing for the S of course, there's no silly age limits is there ?
only in the pub for alcohol ....:g: more the merrier i say,,,
i think my boy will be coming too, fishing for the S of course, there's no silly age limits is there ?
There had better not be as I'm 51 and I'm damned if I'm going to be condemned for not being young enough. LOL.
Edgey apparently im picking a tent up for you.
Whats the lighting like on the marina or is it tilly lights and head lamps
Edgey apparently im picking a tent up for you.
Whats the lighting like on the marina or is it tilly lights and head lamps
Jassyfa. I have never fished the Marina, so have no idea. So that we can meet up, I know Onecodbob and Fishyrob.
Thanks for getting the tent.
You'll want a headlamp as the lighting is minimal as I recall though the lights from the Marina village keep it fairly bright until well after midnight. No need for a tilley or coleman though - just more stuff to carry.
I now have Friday off work as well as the weekend, so Im goin gto get some bait. I presume that we are allowed 2 rods with 2 hooks on each, but only 1 rod can be a pennell rig. That means i need to dig some worms as well as stock up on crab bait.
Does lug outfish rag on the marina.
I now have Friday off work as well as the weekend, so Im goin gto get some bait. I presume that we are allowed 2 rods with 2 hooks on each, but only 1 rod can be a pennell rig. That means i need to dig some worms as well as stock up on crab bait.
Does lug outfish rag on the marina.
I am just pulling together the final list of rules to add to the scorecards and length to points charts I will be bringing on the day. I'll post up the rules later today on both forums. We have agreed 2 rods four hooks max so I reckon that if you want two rods with a pennel on each there's no problem with that.
I would bring both lug and rag though Fishyrob is the Marina Guru - I last fished it a year ago!
The east arm has been packed out recently because of West Arm closures. With so many coming it may be sensible to be prepared to squeeze up and fish only 1 rod, especially during the day. I'm not saying we should plan it that way just be prepared for it.
Do we know if any sections have been booked?
crazyplums
20-07-2007, 13:12
The east arm has been packed out recently because of West Arm closures. With so many coming it may be sensible to be prepared to squeeze up and fish only 1 rod, especially during the day. I'm not saying we should plan it that way just be prepared for it.
Do we know if any sections have been booked?
i'm pretty sure rob has booked it,
as for squeezing up, i occasionally fish eastbourne pier, i've been thee when about 10 of us have had over 25 rods out on the end (only 25ft wide max), rarely a tangle ensued, so i'm sure we'll be fine on the wall ! on the pier, if we cast over someone, we just look where the line is, and set the rod down where it isn't over or under the next guy, often sorting it out on the retrieve, easy peasy !
Ah, JudgeP - I infer from your posting that you are intending to fish this meet so will be adding you to the list! Firstly, Rob has booked us 40 pegs and secondly I believe the West Arm is open at weekends so hopefully that will relieve any pressure.
Hugh - I've seen how you guys fish from Eastbourne Pier and its absolutely nuts. How you don't end up with major tangles is a mystery to me!
Ah, JudgeP - I infer from your posting that you are intending to fish this meet so will be adding you to the list! Firstly, Rob has booked us 40 pegs and secondly I believe the West Arm is open at weekends so hopefully that will relieve any pressure.
Sounds good. Yes, I will attend and I baggsy peg 50.
Latest update - 17 against 12 at the moment.
Line Up for the South:
Mark_S
Crazyplums + Luke
Mesito
vic_fisher
top cat
Edgey
Jamie D
Tom Parker
Blue Moon + Peter (Bro in Law)
Fuzzball
BloatedCod
Tony (from SAS) + Tony's dad
Andy Atkins
JudgeP
For the South East it is:
Jassyfa
Wriggy
Whopper
Misfit
Thames Rover plus 1
OneCodBob
Exoticburm
Fishyrob
Ashley_Southend
sjp1979
mjiamnot
Cascars, Tall Tim and Ron are possibles.
Have knocked Geffaz off the list for the South based on what he said in another thread.
Suggested Rules for the match. I know this all seems pretty anal but all I have done is crib standard rules and tweak 'em slightly. If anyone has any suggestions or gripes feel free to stick up here.
One thing - I have put in that we will be fishing to NFSA minimum sizes even though its a catch and release. I assume everyone is happy with that.
I will bring scorecards and length to points charts on the day. The scorecards will include the rules plus a table showing the NFSA minimum size limits. Thanks to BloatedCod we will also have some tape measures and the kit for doing the draw.
Rules for Catch and Release
1. All fish to be rounded down to the nearest cm, NFSA minimum limits apply.
2. Fish should be taken to the adjacent angler (ideally in a bucket of sea water) to be measured, witnessed and recorded on your score card. The fish must then be returned to the sea immediately in front of that angler. Fish for the table must be despatched and have their tail marked at this point.
3. Fish length, points and running total must be recorded and signed by the adjacent angler before the next cast is retrieved.
4. Match cards must be signed off, total points recorded and witnessed by the adjacent angler.
Other Rules
The match will be fished between 6.30pm and 11.30pm.
Fish hooked at or prior to 11.30pm may still be landed and will count.
Each angler will pair off with a member from the other team. If numbers are uneven then anglers will fish in threes as necessary – two from the larger team with one from the smaller.
Double and treble pegs will be allocated on the day.
Each pair or three will draw a double or treble peg as necessary.
Anglers may fish a maximum of 2 rods
Anglers may fish a maximum of 4 hooks, subject to an overall maximum of 3 hooks on any rod
Float fishing is permitted
Feathers are not permitted
Lures are permitted - a treble counts as three hooks
Weevers, Eels, Mackerel, Garfish, Sea Trout and all Shads do not count
The match will be decided by dividing the total points scored per team by the number of anglers fishing for that team to determine the average points per angler. The team with the highest average points per angler will be declared the winner.
Optional Pool
There shall be an optional pool of £5 per angler. The pool will be divided up among participating anglers at the end of the match as follows: 40% to the angler with the most individual points. 20% each to the anglers with the most sizeable fish, best flatfish and best round fish. An angler may only win one pool and having won one pool his score will not count in determining remaining pools.
crazyplums
20-07-2007, 16:03
Luke is prob coming with me, Mark. he is registered on here but god knows what it is !
rules fine for me.
wheres everyone parking on the night? perhaps rob will know more than most as the multi storey sez 4hr limit
Vicfisher
20-07-2007, 16:51
Just a few hints for those who've not fished here before.
Wear grippy shoes/boots. the concrete can be well slippy when wet.
Lighting is needed as there's none on there.
Drop net needed as it's a fair bit down.
Looks like a medium tide, max 6oz gripper should be ok. (I normally use 4oz)
If the West arm is closed, expect East to be more crowded (duh!)
I find that Lug outfishes Rag (for me anyway).
I'll be travelling from Newhaven, so if anyone wants picking up on the way through, send me a PM
For info, Smuts (small ones) are still there at least they were last night.
http://www.worldseafishing.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75798
fuzzball
20-07-2007, 18:47
4hr parking rule wont count at that time m8... for fishing its ok...mainly to catch the ppl going into brighton from there as brighton soooo expensive... i go boat fishing from there and never got a ticket... jus dont park in disabled if your not (clampers)
lighting ........ tilly and headlamp
http://uk.weather.com/weather/detail/UKXX0215?dayNum=8 weather outlook so far for 28th... hope it true ...NO rAIN
crazyplums
21-07-2007, 08:31
ooh, Mark,
Don't forget Mrs Plums, she'll need to fish with me somehow though, since she prefers to use my rod and tackle :unsure::unsure::unsure:
no offers required thanks :schmoll::nonono:
fishyrob
21-07-2007, 10:52
wheres everyone parking on the night? perhaps rob will know more than most as the multi storey sez 4hr limit
Says a four hour limit, but I¨ve never known it to be actioned. Dont park on the ground floor unless you are disabled. They put a big sticker on your window, deliberately heavily glued. LEaves a right mess. Also, dont park in the Asda car park, they are begining to enforce there. That time of the evening, it might be quite busy. But there is plenty of parking there, so I dont think there will be any issues.
Cool with the rules Mark, and looks like the fishing could be pretty hot.
fishyrob
21-07-2007, 10:55
ooh, Mark,
Don't forget Mrs Plums, she'll need to fish with me somehow though, since she prefers to use my rod and tackle :unsure::unsure::unsure:
no offers required thanks :schmoll::nonono:
I¨ve got a spare rod..........:unsure:
Actually, in all seriousness, if anyone feels they arent coming cos they dont have the right tackle, dont be daft, just pm me and let me know what you need. I got a lot of spare rods........:)
Hugh - I'm sure we can arrange for you, Mrs Plums and Luke to fish together? The three of you on a double peg should be easy enough - quite big those bays - and with an SE angler among those either side no probs witnessing!
On the parking thing - it will be okay to park in the multi storey. Last year I had a word with the guys in the security hut next to McDonalds and they were totally blase about it. I'll do the same this year. We can all pretty much park together as we'll need one or two to act as taxis to get kit and anglers down to the east arm - no point in us all walking it fully laden down as it takes too long and we'll all be knackered.
fishyrob
21-07-2007, 11:23
I can do some ferrying, if you can handle the interesting aromas of the fishy mobile :blink:
Vicfisher
21-07-2007, 11:29
I can do some ferrying, if you can handle the interesting aromas of the fishy mobile :blink:
I can too (but mine doesn't smell of fish).
I'll ferry too - though my car smells of old fish, old bait, estuary mud, soggy trainers and worst of all, stale smoke! My poor wife mostly uses it for work but she is a diamond for not moaning too much about it.
fuzzball
21-07-2007, 20:31
lets tuc tuc it to the arm:whistling
good idea if we can transport the gear to the west arm ...heck of a walk if you have loads of gear.... did see 1 guy with a trolley :busted_co
crazyplums
21-07-2007, 21:19
Hugh - I'm sure we can arrange for you, Mrs Plums and Luke to fish together? The three of you on a double peg should be easy enough - quite big those bays - and with an SE angler among those either side no probs witnessing!
On the parking thing - it will be okay to park in the multi storey. Last year I had a word with the guys in the security hut next to McDonalds and they were totally blase about it. I'll do the same this year. We can all pretty much park together as we'll need one or two to act as taxis to get kit and anglers down to the east arm - no point in us all walking it fully laden down as it takes too long and we'll all be knackered.
it might get a bit crowded if all three of us are on one bay, mrs plums will have to be with me, but luke will prob be ok on his own as long as he's within sight of me, he might need a hand unhooking for eg. we could prob use the space as planned, in seperat bays, but making sure that either side of me and mrs plums, there are se fisherpeeeple. that ok ?
i'll stick the roof bars on the top of me lucida (8 seater peeeple carrier), loads can go on them, and boxes etc in the back, i'll pop the un-required seats up and it can take loads ! .....it managed 7 of us to the IOW, roof box with wellies/suits/buckets etc, rods on roof bars, seat box and ruck sacks in boot, + the luggage for the hols for all of us !
would be nice if someone could give me a lift back up though !! unless fishy wants to swipe me out in the morning, to save a long walk to retrieve it for the return runs !
I have met the Crazyplums family so I would happy to fish next to them, after all if their youngster is fishing the last thing im sure they would want is for their youngster to put up with somebodys bad language.
Hugh
Not one bay mate - as its a peg per bay a double peg would give you two bays. Those bays are pretty big and there will easily be enough room for the Plums crew to fish together across two bays, even with two rods each. The only reason I was thinking a double rather than treble is that would leave quite a stroll to get fish witnessed. I leave it to you to decide on the day. Once we all get on to the east arm and we have an idea of how many double and how many treble pegs will be needed we can allocate them and get the draw done.
Alternatively we make them all treble pegs which will take account of any latecomers. 40 bays then translates into 13 3 bay pegs so then each pair or three simply draws a number from 1 to 13. That'll only take five minutes. Peg 1 would be bays 15-18, peg 2 19-21, peg 3 22-24 and so on. Bags of room for everyone based on the numbers we have confirmed so far. Any latecomers then simply tag on to a peg being fished by a pair.
fuzzball
22-07-2007, 21:21
http://www.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=brighton+marina&sll=50.730271,-0.789256&sspn=0.046396,0.10334&ie=UTF8&ll=50.812389,-0.100379&spn=0.011579,0.025835&t=k&z=15&iwloc=addr&om=1
thought i would jus post this for who dont know the marina
a couple of questions about this match and can you please reply on this and the south east forum. A lot of these questions have been asked already but with this match and details going on both forum sites and loads of posts on both forum I thought we could have an up to date questions
1) how much to fish the marina
2) Is it the east or west arm we are fishing
3) where are we parking and how much is it
4) what fish are not counted in the comp
5) what bait would you recommend
6) What weights would you use
7) Do you need rod rests or can you use the wall
a couple of questions about this match and can you please reply on this and the south east forum. A lot of these questions have been asked already but with this match and details going on both forum sites and loads of posts on both forum I thought we could have an up to date questions
1) how much to fish the marina
2) Is it the east or west arm we are fishing
3) where are we parking and how much is it
4) what fish are not counted in the comp
5) what bait would you recommend
6) What weights would you use
7) Do you need rod rests or can you use the wall
Most of these questions have been covered in the threads, Jassyfa, but here goes anyway.
1. Its £3 for 1 rod, £4 for two rods during the 12 hour period from 6pm to 6am. If we start fishing earlier, then its £3 first rod, £5 for two. during the period 6am to 6pm. In other words, if we were to start fishing at 5pm it would in theory cost us the day rate for the hour up to 6pm then we would be liable for the night rate from 6pm. Got stung by this before and personally, do not intend to start fishing until after 6pm! One of the reasons I suggested a 4pm meet is to allow for us doing a bit of socialising and getting set up in advance of starting to fish. By the time we've milled about, dome the intros and what have you it will probably be nearer 5pm before some of us start heading down to the East Arm
2. East Arm. Fishyrob has booked us a total of 40 bays.
3. We will park in the multi storey carpark and it is free. We will meet up at the Tackle Box which is by the McDonalds car park which itself is just by the multi storey (I'll post specific directions later on) and then once we're unloaded we can park most of the cars. A few of us will then use our cars to ferry everyone and their kit down to the East Arm as it is a fair old walk and there is no parking there for more than an hour. The ferrymen can then walk down to the East Arm from the multi storey unencumbered by tackle.
4. Based on various posts about preferences, mackerel, garfish and eels will not count. Nor will sea trout, weevers or shads.
5. Standard worm baits, mackerel and crab. If the smuts are still about then crab will be essential - peeler ideally but hardbacks at a push. As I have already posted if I can get hold of a load of spider peelers I will bring them along for all to use. If they are peeling at the marina we can use baited traps and drop nets to catch a few.
6. Usual weights - a 4 or 5oz gripper is usually ample and you may get away with less weight and plain leads some of the time.
7. Rod rests are not needed. Some folks to use a bit of tubing to protect their rod being scratched by the concrete.
Others are more expert in fishing the Marina than me so no doubt they'll correct me if I have anything wrong. For more info about fishing the Marina including charges and parking info go here: http://www.brightonmarina-seafishing.co.uk/index.htm The pic gallery will give a good idea of what the wall looks like, as will the galleries on fishyrob's site http://www.fishyrob.co.uk/
Anyone who has a drop net should bring it just in case there are some big fish hooked.
crazyplums
23-07-2007, 07:56
Mark,
sorry to throw a spanner in, but with regards Garfish ??????
i agree no feathers (to count in comp anyways), no macky, shad, weaver and eels. but Garfish ??
excellent fun on a float, and so easy to catch ! i've only had a go a couple of times, can we not allow them ? if we do not, the essex boys will miss out on some potential good fishing,
if any of them are worried about the thought of using a float, i'll happily knock up some float rigs (as i use), you only need a 99p float, some 25-40lb line, and a size 1 hook, oh, a drilled lead or two also.
pleeeeease ??
also, is it worth considering a back up venue ? not sure we need to as the weather, i'm sure, will be glorious, but just in case ? and should we take beach buddies ?
Please NO Garfish. I don't like Float Fishing. Its like watching paint dry. (LOL).
Mark,
sorry to throw a spanner in, but with regards Garfish ??????
i agree no feathers (to count in comp anyways), no macky, shad, weaver and eels. but Garfish ??
excellent fun on a float, and so easy to catch ! i've only had a go a couple of times, can we not allow them ? if we do not, the essex boys will miss out on some potential good fishing,
if any of them are worried about the thought of using a float, i'll happily knock up some float rigs (as i use), you only need a 99p float, some 25-40lb line, and a size 1 hook, oh, a drilled lead or two also.
pleeeeease ??
also, is it worth considering a back up venue ? not sure we need to as the weather, i'm sure, will be glorious, but just in case ? and should we take beach buddies ?
Hugh
See Fishyrob's post below
yep, fifteen to fifty five gives pretty much everyone clean ground. Some people will tell you that the bend, 15 to 22 is the hotspot, but to be honest, although it is good when there is a run of tide on it, the higher pegs tend to fish a bit better as the tide eases, so I would call it fairly equal pegging. Removing the inshore pegs also removes the prawn advantage, as it is here that they are particularly deadly. The way it was fishing before I left, you might want to consider allowing mackerel and banning garfish, or limiting or banning both, as it isnt uncommon to take in excess of fifty gars when they are having it. How about a maximum of five of each, or something like that?
Its no 54 on this thread and in the two or three subsequent posts we kind of decided that macks and gars should be banned there and no-one objected then. You can still fish for them of course - they just won't count for the comp. If there is a general consensus that they should be reinstated then that is fine by me though if maybe they should be limited cos if they are there in numbers it'll be carnage.
Hugh
Its no 54 on this thread and in the two or three subsequent posts we kind of decided that macks and gars should be banned there and no-one objected then. You can still fish for them of course - they just won't count for the comp. If there is a general consensus that they should be reinstated then that is fine by me though if maybe they should be limited cos if they are there in numbers it'll be carnage.
I've fished 4 matches on the marina this year and know the results from the other 4 I've missed. There has not been one Gar frenzy yet and as they are a real mainstay of Marina fishing I think they should be included, max of 5 is absolutely fine. I think we should also allow up to 5 mackerel. Float fishing is also a very popular marina technique.
Every match, bar one when the smutts turned up, has been won with wrasse, pollack & gar. Wrasse & pollack down the wall, Gar on the float. Winning weight has usually been over 10lb and is usually the same person, Sam Sampson, who is Marina genius.
Would it be possible at the meet to have a whip round for this (http://www.worldseafishing.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76049) appeal? Bigads is at a meet in Scotland next weekend and will be having a whip round there.
Would it be possible at the meet to have a whip round for this (http://www.worldseafishing.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76049) appeal? Bigads is at a meet in Scotland next weekend and will be having a whip round there.
No probs, Cascars. I'll remind everyone on the day.
crazyplums
23-07-2007, 10:40
furry muff mark, i guess if they're that plentyful then we can keep the ban, though i think a limit might be more fun, perhaps the biggest two count ?
furry muff mark, i guess if they're that plentyful then we can keep the ban, though i think a limit might be more fun, perhaps the biggest two count ?
Let's see whether there are any other pro-gar posts and whether the Kent and Essex boys in particular have any views. Since we get loads at Worthing and Shoreham in late Summer and well into the autumn I don't care one way or the other - but I don't want our visitors to feel stitched up as we South forumers get the carp rods out and start hauling out Gars and Macks on the float while they're all using beachcasters. This is a friendly meet as much as a match after all. I defo don't agree with JudgeP that up to 5 macks should count, though I am none too pleased about the eel ban - if we are slinging out crab baits then eels are very possible.
Hot Wad has kindly reminded me that although the Marina is reasonably spacious, because of the steps using long rods can be awkward if you want to blast a bait out. So some advice to those who have never fished the Marina before is that you should avoid bringing rods longer than 12ft. 11ft bass or estuary rods are easiest.
weather for sat looks like showers and sw wind 8mph.
this may change but if correct then the arms should be open.
it dont matter to me what fish are allowed ill prob blank anyway.
crazyplums
23-07-2007, 11:55
Hot Wad has kindly reminded me that although the Marina is reasonably spacious, because of the steps using long rods can be awkward if you want to blast a bait out. So some advice to those who have never fished the Marina before is that you should avoid bringing rods longer than 12ft. 11ft bass or estuary rods are easiest.
lol, all our rods are 12-13ft, with exception of my bass or spinning rods, and they won't lift a fish !
I defo don't agree with JudgeP that up to 5 macks should count.
Why?
If it's because you think catching mackerel on the marina is a formality then 9 days out of 10 this summer you'll find that you're very mistaken. When someone spends all day targetting mackerel/gar on the float and gets 3 or 4 macks only to be beaten by a couple of 12oz wrasse it would seem a bit strange.
BTW I've absolutely no problem with this rule on the day, just making a general point about matches on the marina. The main club that fishes marina matches has the max 5lb of mackerel rule and no Garfish maximum.
If the weather is at all fine I will be trying for mackerel & gar on the float regardless. Why visit a venue and ignore some of the best fishing techniques?
crazyplums
23-07-2007, 14:34
Why?
If it's because you think catching mackerel on the marina is a formality then 9 days out of 10 this summer you'll find that you're very mistaken. When someone spends all day targetting mackerel/gar on the float and gets 3 or 4 macks only to be beaten by a couple of 12oz wrasse it would seem a bit strange.
BTW I've absolutely no problem with this rule on the day, just making a general point about matches on the marina. The main club that fishes marina matches has the max 5lb of mackerel rule and no Garfish maximum.
If the weather is at all fine I will be trying for mackerel & gar on the float regardless. Why visit a venue and ignore some of the best fishing techniques?
prob suits me better if they don't count, now i think of it, then i can fish for them with a third rod for bait (macky) without the worry of being accused of trying to cheat with 3 rods ! lol
Why?
If it's because you think catching mackerel on the marina is a formality then 9 days out of 10 this summer you'll find that you're very mistaken. When someone spends all day targetting mackerel/gar on the float and gets 3 or 4 macks only to be beaten by a couple of 12oz wrasse it would seem a bit strange.
BTW I've absolutely no problem with this rule on the day, just making a general point about matches on the marina. The main club that fishes marina matches has the max 5lb of mackerel rule and no Garfish maximum.
If the weather is at all fine I will be trying for mackerel & gar on the float regardless. Why visit a venue and ignore some of the best fishing techniques?
I take your point, Simon, and ordnarily would have no problems with including gars. Macks I do feel are not appropriate for matches but thats the traditionalist in me. However, if you see Jassyfa's post on the SE Forum version of this thread he has come out very clearly against macks and gars as for the Kent and Essex anglers who will be our guests fishing for them is alien. Had this been a serious match we might have been justified in telling them "hard cheese, they count" - but this is mainly about the meet, not the comp, so I think it is fair to exclude species that we will certainly have an edge over them in catching. We'll still beat 'em anyway!
As you say, there is nothing to prevent anyone spending time float fishing for gars and macks - they just won't count for the comp. Since we have a max of 2 rods 4 hooks anyway, it would be possible to mess around with a float rod while still fishing three hooks for species that do count. I will probably bring a float rod along myself - if it is very quiet then working a float around will help pass the time and there is always the chance of a bonus pollack or bass on strip (or a prawn if I can blag one off someone)!
lol, all our rods are 12-13ft, with exception of my bass or spinning rods, and they won't lift a fish !
You'll still be okay but you'll need an overhead thump or to lay your rig on one of the steps which will cut your distance - not that distance is likely to be much of a worry anyway.
fuzzball
23-07-2007, 19:21
ban mackers
gars are a doddle to catch.. try to catch some early on in the match
then change to a bass rig. 5 max maybe...... as fishing could be slow early on in the match...
i think eels should count though as 2lb ones are often caught and could make a nice total up
if not jus keep it to original rules to make it easier ..no garfish mack eels or scad? i think it was
As a relative newcomer to sea angling, and this forum, it would be nice to come and see all you guys in action on Sat. I've been for tuition with Fishyrob, an excellent day out that I can thoroughly recommend , and I was wondering if it would be possible to bring my lad down, [teenage enthusiast] and maybe fish a rod if we can share a bay with Fishyrob. I'll be in touch with him before Sat, but just wanted to run this past the rest of you guys. obviously we'll pay whatever subs are due on the day to fish, but it sounds like a good evening.
let me know if this is o.k.
Cheers.
P.S. I fished the marina with him, and didn't blank!
crazyplums
23-07-2007, 23:56
P.S. I fished the marina with him, and didn't blank!
look out mark, you got some competition now !
i'm sure nobody will have a problem with you fishing, welcome to the forum.
As a relative newcomer to sea angling, and this forum, it would be nice to come and see all you guys in action on Sat. I've been for tuition with Fishyrob, an excellent day out that I can thoroughly recommend , and I was wondering if it would be possible to bring my lad down, [teenage enthusiast] and maybe fish a rod if we can share a bay with Fishyrob. I'll be in touch with him before Sat, but just wanted to run this past the rest of you guys. obviously we'll pay whatever subs are due on the day to fish, but it sounds like a good evening.
let me know if this is o.k.
Cheers.
P.S. I fished the marina with him, and didn't blank!
Welcome to the Forum, Staggo. You and your lad will be very welcome on Saturday. The more the merrier!
fishyrob
24-07-2007, 05:36
Hey Simon. It will be a pleasure to share a bay with you, if it is at all possible in the pegging. Oh, and Mark, now for some bad news. OneCodBob is no longer able to make it Saturday. One less for the Essex team........:uhuh:
Hey Simon. It will be a pleasure to share a bay with you, if it is at all possible in the pegging. Oh, and Mark, now for some bad news. OneCodBob is no longer able to make it Saturday. One less for the Essex team........:uhuh:
Not the Essex team, Rob, the South East Team! OneCodBob dropping out is more than covered by Tall Tim and Cascars confirming they will defo be coming. We'll have pretty good numbers on the day I reckon.
Hi Guys,
I managed to put my flight back to Dhaka back for a few days. Is there room for one more?
Regards
Barry
Grant Letts
24-07-2007, 17:27
Mark,
Whats your current attendee list looking like?? maybe time to put some pairings together??
Grant.
crazyplums
24-07-2007, 18:44
well done Barry, see ya there !
Mark,
What your current attendee list looking like?? maybe time to put some pairings together??
Grant.
Its looking pretty good, Grant, but I'd like to leave the pairings/ threesomes until the day when we know for sure who is there. Until we have warm bodies in attendance we won't know how many pairs and how many threes.
BloatedCod has just told me of three more who will be coming but who want to fish together - Tony (from SAS)'s Dad's mate plus his two young sons! I guess we can make an exception for them provided they have their fish witnessed by an SE angler.
I'll post an updated list of attendees tomorrow morning.
From the south east team point of view I can't see there being objections if people want to fish with each other esp if there is youngsters wanting to fish with their dads
Cheers for that, Jassyfa. I think there are only two cases where that will apply. There is the Plums family and Tony's Dad's mate plus lads who I have never met but since one of the lads is also partially disabled I already said to BloatedCod that it was fine for them to fish together - it may be that they fish with us but not in the match.
I've now got the weight to length charts copied and done scorecards which I'll bring along on the day.
fishyrob
24-07-2007, 23:59
Not the Essex team, Rob, the South East Team! OneCodBob dropping out is more than covered by Tall Tim and Cascars confirming they will defo be coming. We'll have pretty good numbers on the day I reckon.
Oops.... Sorry, I shouldnt forget about Kent. I once went out with a Kentish lass with an extraordinary hairy toe. Are they all like that?
Welcome back Barry, looking forward to meeting you Saturday.
I've asked Ian who runs the official marina website, to post about the reserved pegs, and I have put a post on the Marina forum.
Oops.... Sorry, I shouldnt forget about Kent. I once went out with a Kentish lass with an extraordinary hairy toe. Are they all like that?
Welcome back Barry, looking forward to meeting you Saturday.
I've asked Ian who runs the official marina website, to post about the reserved pegs, and I have put a post on the Marina forum.
Many thanks for that Rob - will hopefully save a bit of hassle!
Latest update - 24 against 13 at the moment.
Line Up for the South:
Mark_S
Crazyplums + Mrs Plums + Luke
Mesito
vic_fisher
top cat
Edgey
Jamie D
Tom Parker
Blue Moon + Peter (Bro in Law)
Fuzzball
BloatedCod
Andy Atkins
JudgeP
Staggo + 1
Barry
Tony (from SAS) + Tony's dad + Tony's Dad's Mate + 2
For the South East it is:
Jassyfa
Wriggy
Whopper
Misfit
Thames Rover plus 1
Exoticburm
Fishyrob
Ashley_Southend
sjp1979
mjiamnot
Cascars
Tall Tim
Let me know if I have missed anyone - and my apologies in advance if I have!
fuzzball
25-07-2007, 08:26
:thumbs:just checked the weather for saturday loooks pretty good no rain in the evening and 10mph winds maybe less ....i just hope they are right for a change . make a change from seeing white horses every day and the arm being closed due the the high winds.
ps. do we have enough bays booked ...do we get a bay each or are we doubling on a bay ... what size are we measuring to as i could print some sizes off and if other people need them too..if u need any help with that side:fishing:
TOM PARKER
25-07-2007, 09:18
Could somebody stick a post up with the agreed (if they have been) rules for the friendly comp on the Marina with a proviso that nobody posts on it as I have been trawling through the posts and it's not clear to me what they are - cheers.
If Gars don't count it could be a very slow day - just a thought.
crazyplums
25-07-2007, 10:23
the rules are posted within the last few pages Tom,
Grant Letts
25-07-2007, 10:39
Its looking pretty good, Grant, but I'd like to leave the pairings/ threesomes until the day when we know for sure who is there. Until we have warm bodies in attendance we won't know how many pairs and how many threes.
BloatedCod has just told me of three more who will be coming but who want to fish together - Tony (from SAS)'s Dad's mate plus his two young sons! I guess we can make an exception for them provided they have their fish witnessed by an SE angler.
I'll post an updated list of attendees tomorrow morning.
No worries mate, bare in mind i will be a later arrival than most cos i am leaving Weybridge at 4,00pm - 4,30pm latest. Traffic and speed cop permitting it should take an hour and a bit to get down!!
Dont mind who i fish with (subject to them not showing me up!). My bro in Law is 50/50 as he had a baby 3 weeks ago is v v v tired and is also working on Saturday!! so dont want him falling asleep on (or off) the arm, bless!!
Cheers,
Grant.
Could somebody stick a post up with the agreed (if they have been) rules for the friendly comp on the Marina with a proviso that nobody posts on it as I have been trawling through the posts and it's not clear to me what they are - cheers.
If Gars don't count it could be a very slow day - just a thought.
Tom - post 93 on this thread. Those rules will also be on the scorecards I give out on the day. After a bit of toing and froing, gars and macks are still excluded but you can still fish for them if you want - they just won't count in the match.
:thumbs:just checked the weather for saturday loooks pretty good no rain in the evening and 10mph winds maybe less ....i just hope they are right for a change . make a change from seeing white horses every day and the arm being closed due the the high winds.
ps. do we have enough bays booked ...do we get a bay each or are we doubling on a bay ... what size are we measuring to as i could print some sizes off and if other people need them too..if u need any help with that side:fishing:
Fuzzball - thanks for the offer mate but no need - the scorecards I have done include the NFSA minimum sizes for any of the species we are likely to catch on Saturday.
I'll mention it again in a day or so in a round-up post, but it would be great if folk could bring pens and either measuring sticks or tape measures. Plus something to lean on like a clipboard if you have one - much easier to record and witness a fish when writing on a smooth level surface!
fishyrob
25-07-2007, 11:55
:thumbs:just checked the weather for saturday loooks pretty good no rain in the evening and 10mph winds maybe less ....i just hope they are right for a change . make a change from seeing white horses every day and the arm being closed due the the high winds.
ps. do we have enough bays booked ...do we get a bay each or are we doubling on a bay ... what size are we measuring to as i could print some sizes off and if other people need them too..if u need any help with that side:fishing:
26 till end are booked, shouuld be enough, but we will probably have to double up in the bays. Pegs fifty seven until the penultimate (thats the one before last to save you all rushing for your Oxford Dictionaries) one are generally unfishable because of sea defence blocks.
Grant Letts
25-07-2007, 12:04
""(thats the one before last to save you all rushing for your Oxford Dictionaries)""
Oooooh get you!!!:bleh:
fishyrob
25-07-2007, 12:12
""(thats the one before last to save you all rushing for your Oxford Dictionaries)""
Oooooh get you!!!:bleh:
well, you will have seen the standard of English on this site (mine included....!) Cracks me up, everyone moans about immigrants, but I have six living in my house who all know the English language better than me...!!
Grant Letts
25-07-2007, 12:18
well, you will have seen the standard of English on this site (mine included....!) Cracks me up, everyone moans about immigrants, but I have six living in my house who all know the English language better than me...!!
Cor blimy i quitte agrree the punktumation and spilleng is fredul.
but still licking forword to katchin some smits and brim on satorday!
fishyrob
25-07-2007, 12:20
Cor blimy i quitte agrree the punktumation and spilleng is fredul.
but still licking forword to katchin some smits and brim on satorday!
IMHO it will be won on Brim........
TOM PARKER
25-07-2007, 12:25
so what do you reckon it will be won on FR?
No Sbas wil bee the winur. cort by mee.
TOM PARKER
25-07-2007, 12:40
could somebody pm me a copy of the NSFA size/points chart please?
Jamie Donnelly
25-07-2007, 12:55
sorry :( i havent gone though the whole thread, i havent had time.
is this the Brighton Marina meet??
Jamie
igo.t.crabbs
25-07-2007, 13:03
sorry :( i havent gone though the whole thread, i havent had time.
is this the Brighton Marina meet??
Jamie
no..this is the next meet for dukes mound ....if you up for it jamie just state
if your free. and i'll pm you the details:kissing:
For those who were unaware of the Kent vs Essex match at dungie, everybody thought the match would be won on dabs. However the bloke fishing next to me was not in the match and he was catching double shots of doggies. By using herring as bait on size 2 hooks I followed suit and soon had 2 metres of sizeable doggies recorded (the biggest being 60cm the smallest being 50cm), and nearly everybody else was struggling to catch dabs.
By the time the doggies had dissapeared (they tend feed better at low and high water) it was going to take some serious fishing to overhaul my size of fish. Before you all start thinking what a show off I am, Slayer ( a south coast fisherman, fishing for Kent) overtook my total and DMJerico was only 3cm behind me and he did not catch any doggies only dabs and rockling.
At the end of the comp, Slayer had won the biggest bag, with myself in 2nd and DMjericho in third. There was quite a distance fourth place, and I also won the biggest fish although Slayer had a 5lb cod which I would have gladly given up my biggest fish as the cod was the best fish caught in the comp.
So remember on Saturday night catching a bag full of sizeable wrasse, bream and even rockling can outmeasure a couple of smuts.
fishyrob
25-07-2007, 13:28
could somebody pm me a copy of the NSFA size/points chart please?
Bream and Wrasse will do it, in the absence of hounds. Bass and sole will feature, but my money will be on bream and wrasse. BTW, I am donating five DVices for the most UNUSUAL fish caught. I will let Mark_S and Crazyplums be the judge of what constitutes unusual, cos I know they dont have much to do..........:)
Grant Letts
25-07-2007, 13:33
Bream and Wrasse will do it, in the absence of hounds. Bass and sole will feature, but my money will be on bream and wrasse. BTW, I am donating five DVices for the most UNUSUAL fish caught. I will let Mark_S and Crazyplums be the judge of what constitutes unusual, cos I know they dont have much to do..........:)
Sounds like fun. What are "DVices" though.
fishyrob
25-07-2007, 13:36
Sounds like fun. What are "DVices" though.
Where have you been man....... Seriosley, sorry mods but have a look here......
www.dvice.co.uk
Biggest fish to a DVice to date - 20lb Shore caught smooth hound!!
fishyrob
25-07-2007, 13:37
ok, so I cant spell seriousley
so it s fishing down the wall then, for the wrasse, bream and bass. Are there any doggies about? or anything else?
Grant Letts
25-07-2007, 13:40
ok, so I cant spell seriousley
Dont start that again!!
Seriously i do remember the DVice now. the old brains been too busy recently!!!!
sorry :( i havent gone though the whole thread, i havent had time.
is this the Brighton Marina meet??
Jamie
Jamie,
HOW MANY TIMES HAVE I TOLD YOU IN THE PAST. PAY ATTENTION IN CLASS.
Stupid boy. Don't tell him your name Pike.
Grant Letts
25-07-2007, 13:44
With a potential 37 Anglers could this be the biggest WSF meet on the South Coast????
fishyrob
25-07-2007, 13:46
so it s fishing down the wall then, for the wrasse, bream and bass. Are there any doggies about? or anything else?
Doggies just arent a realistic target on the marina. Never worked that one out, cos just donw the road at Worthing they can be prolific. Just odd ones, and mostly in darkness. After the match, maybe for the last hour and a half of the match, for the rest of the nght, sole and bass will be the main target.
Looking like I might be heading to the Creek sometime Friday for some harbour rag. Dont know what your schedule is but if you are going digging, perhaps we can meet then and discuss tactics....?
Doggies just arent a realistic target on the marina. Never worked that one out, cos just donw the road at Worthing they can be prolific. Just odd ones, and mostly in darkness. After the match, maybe for the last hour and a half of the match, for the rest of the nght, sole and bass will be the main target.
Looking like I might be heading to the Creek sometime Friday for some harbour rag. Dont know what your schedule is but if you are going digging, perhaps we can meet then and discuss tactics....?
Aaah Sole. These are Sole aren't they, or are Sole larger.
Oh for a Sole. A Sole A Sole A Sole, my kingdom for a Sole. With apologies to Henry V and Shakespeare, the Poet not the Tackle provider.:):)
TOM PARKER
25-07-2007, 13:59
Good man Robin it's always good fun when points mean prizes!
I'll be after sun fish but what with all this rain I'm not holding out much hope!
Dont worry edgy where im intending to fish the return match there should be soles. Also flounders and bass (big buggers up to 10lb)
fishyrob
25-07-2007, 14:11
Good man Robin it's always good fun when points mean prizes!
I'll be after sun fish but what with all this rain I'm not holding out much hope!
Every trip I go I am actually targetting Dog Toothed Tuna. Mr Doneley doesnt believe me, but really, I am.........
fishyrob
25-07-2007, 14:12
Dont worry edgy where im intending to fish the return match there should be soles. Also flounders and bass (big buggers up to 10lb)
I had better fish for the South coast then, cos I am familiar with Stanford Le Hope.........
I had better fish for the South coast then, cos I am familiar with Stanford Le Hope.........
wrong location
fishyrob
25-07-2007, 14:29
wrong location
Just testing...... Grays it is then........ Lost my virginity to a girl from Grays. Wonder if she is still there........:)
Grant Letts
25-07-2007, 14:50
[QUOTE=Edgey;730808]Aaah Sole. These are Sole aren't they, or are Sole larger.
And done with a chinese accent.......:blink::blink::blink::blink:
Every trip I go I am actually targetting Dog Toothed Tuna. Mr Doneley doesnt believe me, but really, I am.........
Isn't Dog Tooth Tuna the colour of suit that Essex Man is mainly wearing this week?
[quote=Edgey;730808]Aaah Sole. These are Sole aren't they, or are Sole larger.
And done with a chinese accent.......:blink::blink::blink::blink:
Less.
And it hars meant that I have glot allay with sayring "Are Sole" thlee times without anyrone noticing and comprainings about my sayring Ah Sole.
I think it is time now for me to go and see the Doctor. Orl to get my cloat.
fishyrob
25-07-2007, 15:02
Isn't Dog Tooth Tuna the colour of suit that Essex Man is mainly wearing this week?
Last time I lived there, it was the domain of white socks........
Grant Letts
25-07-2007, 15:05
[quote=Blue Moon;730882]
Less.
And it hars meant that I have glot allay with sayring "Are Sole" thlee times without anyrone noticing and comprainings about my sayring Ah Sole.
I think it is time now for me to go and see the Doctor. Orl to get my cloat.
Take two pills and have a lie down!! see you Saturday!!
Just testing...... Grays it is then........ Lost my virginity to a girl from Grays. Wonder if she is still there........:)
wrong again
If we are fishing the marina, are we allowed to fish inside and outside?
TOM PARKER
25-07-2007, 15:39
Outside only jassyfa.
roll on sat . . . .
fishyrob
25-07-2007, 15:39
wrong again
No, honestly, she was from Grays.......
Is it south side of the ditch then? Good curry in Gravesend......
TOM PARKER
25-07-2007, 15:40
what time is the peg draw taking place and am I correct in saying we all meet at 4pm at the tackle box?
its the south side try Tilbury park at the end of the world pub and then walk left to the power station
what time is the peg draw taking place and am I correct in saying we all meet at 4pm at the tackle box?
I know a few of the south east team wont be there by 4pm im not intending to leave my house before 12.30 and I have to pick up 2 people on the way. thames Rover and his mate are in a comp inthe morning and aint leaving till 3ish
TOM PARKER
25-07-2007, 15:58
I'm sure the pegs will be kept warm for the late comers.
I'm gona trawl the posts to fill in blanks. . . .
fishyrob
25-07-2007, 16:01
I'm sure the pegs will be kept warm for the late comers.
I'm gona trawl the posts to fill in blanks. . . .
Hope you are using the right mesh size.....
TOM PARKER
25-07-2007, 16:15
micro mesh nets. . . . but sea was already empty and didn't find what I wanted.
Mark - could you edit the first page to show the meeting time, place and draw time etc as I've tried to check it out but can;t find it and it's sooo much easier to look at the first page - thanks, your a gent.
Just testing...... Grays it is then........ Lost my virginity to a girl from Grays. Wonder if she is still there........:)
The "Secret" location with the QE bridge in the background PMSL!
The "Secret" location with the QE bridge in the background PMSL!
whopper it aint Grays its Tilbury we are fishing
whopper it aint Grays its Tilbury we are fishing
Now come on Jassy, you've told Whopper where the secret mark is, he thought it was Tilbury, mind you he's a copper, they can never find out where they are anyway. :)
Glad to see you are thinking of Tilbury, thought at first it was Southend, was going to go to Felixstowe instead, more chance of catching fish:giveup:
Now come on Jassy, you've told Whopper where the secret mark is, he thought it was Tilbury, mind you he's a copper, they can never find out where they are anyway. :)
Glad to see you are thinking of Tilbury, thought at first it was Southend, was going to go to Felixstowe instead, more chance of catching fish:giveup:'1st of whopper had fished the secret mark before. 2nd can u imagine 30 anglers on that small stretch of bank. 3rd I want the return leg to be competitive with more than a flounder and condom being measured.
started digging for bait today. Up at 05.30 and on the beach at 6am. The tide was already in at Thorpe Bay so it was a quick trip to East Beach at Shoebury for white rag and maddies. The white rag are now few in numbers as all the match anglers want them for bait, however I managed to get a couple of dozen. The maddies were easier although I had to walk to the end of East Beach to dig 100 of the buggers.
Im digging twice tomorrow one for lug in the early hours of the morning, then picking up my crab and squid bait, then out again in the evening for more maddies and a few lug.
The tide was already in at Thorpe Bay so it was a quick trip to East Beach at Shoebury for white rag and maddies.
I dug at Shoebury a couple of times as a boy and threw back all the white rag cos I didn't know what they were. DOH! I did evetually learn about them after catchting 3 flounder in 3 casts at Westcliff and nothing else all day on lug/crab.
fishyrob
26-07-2007, 15:51
***** URGENT AND VERY IMORTANT ********
***** GOOD AND BAD NEWS *************
***** VOUNTEERS NEEDED **************
First, the good news. Dave Grinham at the tackle box is putting up a rod and reel as a prize. I guess it is up to us what caegory wins it.
Now the bad news. Pegs 26 to end are VERY SLIPPERY because of ALGAE, as a result of our wonderful summer weather. Volunteers needed with stiff bristle brushes to scrape down the algae, Friday evening and Saturday about 12 ish. Whatever happens, these bays are fished AT YOUR OWN RISK. We will wack some sand down during the day saturday, but with the forecast for some rain during the day saturday, it is possible that htese bays will be slippery still. So, anyone local to the area, PLEASE COME AND HELP.
***** URGENT AND VERY IMORTANT ********
***** GOOD AND BAD NEWS *************
***** VOUNTEERS NEEDED **************
First, the good news. Dave Grinham at the tackle box is putting up a rod and reel as a prize. I guess it is up to us what caegory wins it.
Now the bad news. Pegs 26 to end are VERY SLIPPERY because of ALGAE, as a result of our wonderful summer weather. Volunteers needed with stiff bristle brushes to scrape down the algae, Friday evening and Saturday about 12 ish. Whatever happens, these bays are fished AT YOUR OWN RISK. We will wack some sand down during the day saturday, but with the forecast for some rain during the day saturday, it is possible that htese bays will be slippery still. So, anyone local to the area, PLEASE COME AND HELP.
Rob, that's great new about the Rod and Reel! I will thank Dave myself on Saturday afternoon.
I am in Cambridge tomorrow all day so will not be able to help on Friday evening. However, I should be able to get over on Saturday about 2pm if that's any good? Fortunately the latest forecast for Staurday at the met office site is for sunshine all day.
Finally - I have put all details of the meet and match in the first post of the thread. Something Tom Parker asked for.
Grant Letts
26-07-2007, 17:02
***** URGENT AND VERY IMORTANT ********
***** GOOD AND BAD NEWS *************
***** VOUNTEERS NEEDED **************
First, the good news. Dave Grinham at the tackle box is putting up a rod and reel as a prize. I guess it is up to us what caegory wins it.
Now the bad news. Pegs 26 to end are VERY SLIPPERY because of ALGAE, as a result of our wonderful summer weather. Volunteers needed with stiff bristle brushes to scrape down the algae, Friday evening and Saturday about 12 ish. Whatever happens, these bays are fished AT YOUR OWN RISK. We will wack some sand down during the day saturday, but with the forecast for some rain during the day saturday, it is possible that htese bays will be slippery still. So, anyone local to the area, PLEASE COME AND HELP.
Sorry guys i am working Friday and Saturday and wont be in Brighton until 5,00pm Saturday earliest!!
Please make sure my peg is algae and slip free!!!!:):):):)
crazyplums
26-07-2007, 17:31
bugger, just booked a van in for saturday morning and will be cutting all the sticky stuff on friday evening once the materials arrive.
good news on the rod n reel though. not that i need another !
can I suggets for the rod and reel that somebody suggests a species of fish bar smuts and it goes to who gets the biggest fish of that species.
I would prefer it togo to a species that could be caught down the wall so everybody has a chance of winning it.
Grant Letts
26-07-2007, 17:57
bugger, just booked a van in for saturday morning and will be cutting all the sticky stuff on friday evening once the materials arrive.
good news on the rod n reel though. not that i need another !
Hugh can you bring me a roll of your tip tape on Saturday please mate??
Cheers,
Grant.
crazyplums
26-07-2007, 18:48
Hugh can you bring me a roll of your tip tape on Saturday please mate??
Cheers,
Grant.
you mean a strip ? a roll is 10m long x 2ft wide !!! that'll be £200 please !!
what colour ??
Mark,
put smoothy down as a probably, and Chris down as a 'will be there', chris is gonna park up in a caravan park and i'll pick him up on my way through, i did give him directions to the field next to the 27 where the coaches and caravans park, but he didn't like the sound of all the dogs and ponies on the site !! i thought it'd be handy with all the tarmac laying about as hardstanding !
And the numbers increase further - 26 against 13 at the moment.
Line Up for the South:
Mark_S
Crazyplums + Mrs Plums + Luke
Mesito
vic_fisher
top cat
Edgey
Jamie D
Tom Parker
Blue Moon + Peter (Bro in Law)
Fuzzball
BloatedCod
Andy Atkins
JudgeP
Staggo + 1
Barry
Tony (from SAS) + Tony's dad + Tony's Dad's Mate + 2
Chris
Smoothy
For the South East it is:
Jassyfa
Wriggy
Whopper
Misfit
Thames Rover plus 1
Exoticburm
Fishyrob
Ashley_Southend
sjp1979
mjiamnot
Cascars
Tall Tim
Its gonna be a tight fit folks!
fishyrob
26-07-2007, 20:07
can I suggets for the rod and reel that somebody suggests a species of fish bar smuts and it goes to who gets the biggest fish of that species.
I would prefer it togo to a species that could be caught down the wall so everybody has a chance of winning it.
Could be a good "Biggest Flattie" prize, which will most likely be a sole.
Yes Eddie, Are Sole good enough to be prize winners. I thihk so,,,,,,,,
Could be a good "Biggest Flattie" prize, which will most likely be a sole.
Yes Eddie, Are Sole good enough to be prize winners. I thihk so,,,,,,,,
What's wrong with it going to the individual angler who gets the most points - ie catches the heaviest weight of fish?
If not, then I reckon it should go to the angler catching the highest scoring individual fish. Easy to work out using the length to points charts. For example - at 41 cm a bass, codling, pout, scad or mullet scores 68 points, whereas a flattie that size scores 80 points, a wrasse 96 points, a pollack 62 points and a smut a paltry 26 points.
TOM PARKER
27-07-2007, 09:14
Thanks Mark for editing the first post.
Great news about more prizes - good on Dave.
I don't live locally but if I can get down earlier I'll help out with the bay cleaning.
great news on prize i agree it should go to person with best over all catch.
gonna try to get down early to help with clean-up
fishyrob
27-07-2007, 10:13
What's wrong with it going to the individual angler who gets the most points - ie catches the heaviest weight of fish?
If not, then I reckon it should go to the angler catching the highest scoring individual fish. Easy to work out using the length to points charts. For example - at 41 cm a bass, codling, pout, scad or mullet scores 68 points, whereas a flattie that size scores 80 points, a wrasse 96 points, a pollack 62 points and a smut a paltry 26 points.
Yep, no worries Mark. It was just a thoought the heaviest flattie. Plus I quite enjoy Henrys are sole humour.....:)
I would go for biggest individual fish using length to point chart. i think that is more fair than biggest indivisual weight or size.
Grant Letts
27-07-2007, 11:58
[QUOTE=crazyplums;732630]you mean a strip ? a roll is 10m long x 2ft wide !!! that'll be £200 please !!
what colour ??
Er yeah ok a strip dont mind what colour really, what do you have???? blue would be good.
Vicfisher
27-07-2007, 16:56
I've just done a map of the Marina showing meeting place, tackle box etc for our visiting guests. I haven't bothered with the East arm access etc as we'll be doing a convoy anyway while moving all the gear.
If anyone wants details adding, just add a note here or PM me.
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&lr=lang_en&msa=0&msid=113429755628702452170.0004362e90e8b7160dcbd&ll=50.813399,-0.104499&spn=0.004101,0.011759&t=h&z=17&om=1
I've just done a map of the Marina showing meeting place, tackle box etc for our visiting guests. I haven't bothered with the East arm access etc as we'll be doing a convoy anyway while moving all the gear.
If anyone wants details adding, just add a note here or PM me.
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&lr=lang_en&msa=0&msid=113429755628702452170.0004362e90e8b7160dcbd&ll=50.813399,-0.104499&spn=0.004101,0.011759&t=h&z=17&om=1
Thanks mate - great work. I have also stuck a link to a variety of direction maps in the first post of the thread, which has been edited to capture all the details of the meet/match.
We have a late addition to the South team. The Happy Shopkeeper will be coming along and he tells me he will bring a prize!
Line Up for the South:
Mark_S
Crazyplums + Mrs Plums + Luke
Mesito
vic_fisher
top cat
Edgey
Jamie D
Tom Parker
Blue Moon + Peter (Bro in Law)
Fuzzball
BloatedCod
Andy Atkins
JudgeP
Staggo + 1
Barry
Tony (from SAS) + Tony's dad + Tony's Dad's Mate + 2
Chris
Smoothy
Happy Shopkeeper
For the South East it is:
Jassyfa
Wriggy
Whopper
Misfit
Thames Rover plus 1
Exoticburm
Fishyrob
Ashley_Southend
sjp1979
mjiamnot
Cascars
Tall Tim
If everyone turns up who says they're gonna turn up we might have to think about making it one rod only!
crazyplums
27-07-2007, 19:10
i think marco might not be able to make it, he's a bit pauly i hear,
i think marco might not be able to make it, he's a bit pauly i hear,
Sorry to hear that Hugh. One of the reasons we'll delay the draw until 5.45pm is to allow for no-shows and latecomers. For example, I wonder if JD is going to come....
fuzzball
27-07-2007, 19:40
got some whites today not many but enough to try (dozenish)
got some lug
black on order
rag on order
some frozen peeler
and a big thanks to mark for a couple spiders
should be enough till 1.30am
anyone picking JD up ...... or gf going to stop him fishing :kissing:
We have a late addition to the South team. The Happy Shopkeeper will be coming along and he tells me he will bring a prize!
If everyone turns up who says they're gonna turn up we might have to think about making it one rod only!
Now Mark is recruiting ringers. You certainly plan to win this one don't you.? Would I be right in saying that HSK was possibly the most successful Sussex match angler of the 80s & 90s? Just need to get Sam Sampson along and it's all over before the start. There again, with so many South coasters the law of averages should bring us down.
simon i bumped into craig ide last week an asked if he wanted to show his face dont know if he will show though.
he said you never told him you are now a local fishing celeb
The Bandit
28-07-2007, 09:17
Now Mark is recruiting ringers. You certainly plan to win this one don't you.? Would I be right in saying that HSK was possibly the most successful Sussex match angler of the 80s & 90s? Just need to get Sam Sampson along and it's all over before the start. There again, with so many South coasters the law of averages should bring us down.
You got a far greater chance of winning with less in the team.......any way that Happy shopkeeper is way over the hill and will need at least half the match to recover after the walk:wheelchai
Grant Letts
28-07-2007, 09:27
...STOP PRESS..STOP PRESS..STOP PRESS..STOP PRESS...
My Bro in law aint coming. However after i told my Mrs this last night her comment was...
"Maybe i will come and see what you get up to on these sessions"
So shes coming along armed with the latest best seller from WH Smiths!!!!
After weighing it up it means i have a chauffer and someone to carry tackle:notworthy ha ha ha!!
See you all tonight, should be down about 5,30!!
Grant.
Thanks for letting me know, Grant. By 5.30 we'll be on the Arm so you'll have to find us for the draw somewhere after peg 26.
Grant Letts
28-07-2007, 10:24
No probs Mark. I will be the one walking leisurely along the Marina with a girl behind me carrying large amounts of tackle!!:)
Really looking forward to it now and the weather looks ok too!!!!:clap2:
Grant.
Should MARK S fail to lead the south coast team to victory a penance will be required........those chequered trainers perhaps ?:blink:
Rest assured I have a total negative impact on those fishing around me, so make sure I am surrounded by south easters.
fishyrob
28-07-2007, 12:51
****************** VENUE UPDATE *********************
WINDS are brisk. There will be ssome slap over thee low tide if it doesnt die off, so bring waterproofs.
ALGAE isnt too bad, but we will have a brush to deal with any dodgy bits.
PEGS are signed, but not as I would have liked, because the wind is too brisk to risk an unattended A-Board
TACKLE BOX has plenty of pare Rag, Lug and all frozen stuff, including 1lb boxees of squid. They will be open until 7pm for any latecomers.
SMOOTHOUNDS have been caught this morning. Not a lot else though, but fishing into dark will make a big diffrence. Mackerel are around on the west, so maybe just on dark we will get some fresh stuff.
All in all, looks like we will be on the Marina for this comp. Fingets crossed the wind doesnt increase.
fuzzball
28-07-2007, 13:11
yeah i saw the arm about 30 mins ago looked a little choppy down there,i jus really hope the wind dies down a bit through the night.good to hear the smoothies in,i might catch my first this year......
kids stopped me for the last 4 yaers:giveup:
Winds are forecast to decrease so fingers crossed we'll be fine.
Grant Letts
28-07-2007, 14:08
Winds are forecast to decrease so fingers crossed we'll be fine.
Certainly hope so sat a work with nothing going on its the only thing thats keeping me going!!! (just love the housing market in July!!!) Unbelivable the crap on the web being trawling all day!!! Thank god for wsf.com!!!!
fuzzball
28-07-2007, 14:23
Winds are forecast to decrease so fingers crossed we'll be fine.
winds decrease rain moves in no winning...:giveup: definetly the water proofs tonight ..rain looks from 10ish .... time to test the new wellies
Certainly hope so sat a work with nothing going on its the only thing thats keeping me going!!! (just love the housing market in July!!!) Unbelivable the crap on the web being trawling all day!!! Thank god for wsf.com!!!!
Well BM. The weather was Crap wasn't it.
PS My house in Alton is up for sale!!!!
andy colmer
29-07-2007, 01:24
Well BM. The weather was Crap wasn't it.
PS My house in Alton is up for sale!!!!
Like I said.......GO TO BED HENRY!! LOL.
Like I said.......GO TO BED HENRY!! LOL.
Tried to buy a bottle of whisky on the way home to consume a considerable portion of when I arrived to dilute the water I have absorbed at Brighton today. No where open.
My new effing floatie trousers left my lower slopes sodden. I was cold, wet, tired, fishless, ****ed off because of losing two sets of end tackle and shockleaders in one go, whilst netting a fish for Jassyfa, fed up, hacked off, now working my way through a nice bottle of Sancerre.
Why can't one buy an effing bottle of whisky at 11.30 at night in this over regulated, over governed, nanny state. If I want to sit and drink myself into a stupor in my own home when I feel like this and I'm 51 years old for god's sake, why shouldn't I.
Rant over and apologies to all offended by it.
Should MARK S fail to lead the south coast team to victory a penance will be required........those chequered trainers perhaps ?:blink:
start thinking of a penance for him.
you can make him fish ash style no waterproofs in last nights conditions the mans a star
Morning all, time for me to report the results for what was a pretty miserable night.
Despite the weather forecast for decreasing winds and relatively calm seas, conditions on the East Arm were horrible throughout, especially in the higher pegs which is where the match was held. Right from the start, huge plumes of water were slapping into the Vs and generally soaking the intrepid band of 36 anglers. We hoped that as the tide rose this would decrease and although we had an hour or so when we had marginally less sea water landing on top of us the wind failed to drop as expected and the volumes of sea water coming up through the Vs was soon causing some concern. Then there were the monsoon like conditions that arrived at about 9pm.
Eventually, around 10pm we took the decision to abandon the match because conditions were continuing to deteriorate. With rain water coming down in huge volumes from the sky and with sea water coming up from the Vs in ever greater volumes we felt that there was the real possibility of an accident in the slippery conditions. Up in the higher pegs from the 40s upwards it was particularly grim and more than a few had already given up the ghost by the time called a halt.
We had a soggy “weigh-in” by the café and the results were as follows.
Team Results:
The South team had 26 anglers who amassed the paltry total of 137 points to give an average score per angler of 5.3. The South East team had 10 anglers who scored a total of 638 points giving an average score per angler of an impressive 63.8. So a resounding victory for the South East team and bragging rights are theirs – at least until the return match!
Individual and Pool Results:
The rules allowed for a max of one pool win per angler as we wanted to spread the dosh around. Total pool money was £130 to be split 40/20/20/20.
Most individual points – Jassyfa from the SE team, with 306 points for a hound of 84cm, won £50 and as he had the fish scoring the highest number of points also won the fishing rod kindly donated by Dave Grinham of The Tackle Box.
Best Round fish - Northern Steve from the SE Team with 292 points for a hound of 83cm won £25.
Best Flatfish – Weehaggisuk from the South Team had 100 points for a superb sole of 43cm and won £25
Most sizeable fish – nobody had more than one and the three anglers who had won the other pools agreed that the balance of £30 should go to the RNLI. I will send the money off this week.
Most unusual fish – Mjiamnot from the SE team won 5 DVices with a monster 3 bearded rockling of 38cm for 40 points.
Most species – this was not won and the prize of a tripod kindly donated by the Happy Shopkeeper (Mike Perfect of Prime Angling) will now be saved for the next SAS match.
Big thanks to everyone who turned up, especially to those from both teams who travelled long distances. I am only sorry that the weather completely ruined what should have been a fab summer’s evening bagging up on all sorts of species. Instead we had a wet, miserable slog with only 6 sizeable fish recorded. Well done to the South East Team who not only beat the South Team fair and square but also pretty much scooped the individual prizes. Hard luck story of the night is probably Mr Beachams, who lost a decent hound at the net. And a special mention should be made of Ashley who fished the match without waterproofs – not sure whether this makes him an iron man or a complete lunatic. A bit of both I reckon! It was great to meet all of you from the SE Team. Despite everything, we managed a few laughs and I look forward to the next time. My final impression of you guys is the awful sight of some of you stripping off to drive home in pants!
Thanks to Fishyrob for organising the booking of pegs on the East Arm. My own thanks to the Happy Shopkeeper who kindly gave me the benefit of his countless years of match experience when I was struggling to get the draw organised. Thanks also to BloatedCod who wisely knew I would have forgotten a few things and came to the rescue. I ended up organising the match side of things by default and it was much harder work than I expected! Not sure I’d fancy doing it again.
My penance for leading the South team to defeat? I’ll leave the South team members to decide that….
And a special mention should be made of Ashley who fished the match without waterproofs – not sure whether this makes him an iron man or a complete lunatic. A bit of both I reckon!
Trust me he is an idiot
tomfoolery
29-07-2007, 11:29
Well done to all the lunatics who fished it last night.. Seems every time someone organises a meet up, the rain gods drop their trousers and pee on all concerned.
Maybe the £30 should go to Ashley to put towards some wets.
Sorry I couldn't make it but I have this good book at the moment.
Well done anyway, your "Blue Peter" badges are in the mail.
Rgds
G
And a special mention should be made of Ashley who fished the match without waterproofs – not sure whether this makes him an iron man or a complete lunatic. A bit of both I reckon!
Trust me he is an idiot
But what an entertainer!
penance is .............. collect my left over spiders and you fish tonight MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!:crazy:
Posted my damp thoughts on main forum, but TYs to Ash for entertainment, both Mikes for ferrying me or gear each way and Mike again for donation to the next SAS comp. Bad luck Mr B - get down Selsey and make up for it. Great bunch of lads from SE and a deserved win.
Quick hijack of the thread for a minute to invite them to our SAS invitation friendly on 29th Sept ...NOT the marina , but Widewater beach lol - we'll update that thread as date approaches.
Well done Mark and Rob for all the organising- a tough job I know!
TOM PARKER
29-07-2007, 12:57
Well done SE Team who managed to winkle some fish out of harsh fishing conditions to win the booty and bragging rights!
Although I currently live in Kent I fished for the South as fish Sussex marks most of the time and am moving to East Sussex soon! I bet the SE team are glad I did as I blanked on peg 47. It was, as Tony, Top Cat & Andy can vouch for, hard going with weed pulling the grippers out on a regular basis and getting soaked every 5 mins. I left at around 9:40pm when the wind got up and the no fish/bites had got to me and a warm bed and a drink suddenly had more of an appeal.
I'm glad I went though as met some more WSF people and haven't managed to get out fishing for a couple of months so good to wet (well soak) a line.
Thanks to Mark & Robin for organising the event. Mark - I will keep my score sheet as a memontum as it was my first Sea Match. It will remind me to catch some fish!
Andy - let me know if you manage to get out and fish over the next couple of days as I want to know if you put the Rag i gave you to good use.
Until the next time. . . .
WELL DONE TEAM SOUTH EAST!:clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2:
And Ash is a lunatic:)
Quick thank you to Fishyrob, Mark, and all the guys who made us newcomers welcome to a sodden south coast last night.
Can't wait until next time.
Cheers, Simon and Sam.
Oh, and if you're reading this Henry,we stopped at the garage on the big roundabout at the bottom of the A23 on the way back to the M25, and bought some cans of cider. That was 11.30. so now you know where to get some late night scotch!
andy atkins
29-07-2007, 18:40
well done all who turned out!
shame the weather was a true british summer and most if not all of the pegs were unifshable to a large extent but still a good laugh, my total...well in the five minutes it was fishable i landed a mammoth tom pot blenny and an equally uninspiring bullhead before the wind, weed and rain came back to the fore and safey became more important than fishing!
the highwayman
29-07-2007, 20:27
Now Mark is recruiting ringers. You certainly plan to win this one don't you.? Would I be right in saying that HSK was possibly the most successful Sussex match angler of the 80s & 90s? Just need to get Sam Sampson along and it's all over before the start. There again, with so many South coasters the law of averages should bring us down.
can anybody inform us on the happyshopkeepers performance last nite? and lastly judge p am i right in saying your talking 1880s and 1890s when stating your views on the hsk!!!!
fishyrob
29-07-2007, 21:22
au contraire Jason, Happy shopkeeper had a sole, first fish of the match in fact, and something else that I cant remember, I think it was a pup, or a snotty, or something, but was below NFSA limits....!!
au contraire Jason, Happy shopkeeper had a sole, first fish of the match in fact, and something else that I cant remember, I think it was a pup, or a snotty, or something, but was below NFSA limits....!!
Did he? I was only fishing a couple of pegs away from him and I never saw him catch anything. Saying that I had my back to those pegs due to the weather and the rain. He could have caught a whale and I wouldn't have noticed.
My apologies to the shopkeeper.
Grant Letts
30-07-2007, 10:37
Well BM. The weather was Crap wasn't it.
PS My house in Alton is up for sale!!!!
Sorry mate bit out of my Manor to sell it for you ha ha!!! If you want to move to Weybridge let me know!!
And yes it was WET!!!!
Grant Letts
30-07-2007, 10:39
I did put it on the other thread but....
A big thanks to the organisers. Lets hope for a more Fishable meet soon.
Grant.
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