most freshwater fish youve caught?

[jackfishing21]

im trying to catch all the freshwater fish in the uk and so far ive only need to catch a grayling,char,salmon,eel and zander and im done so dont spose any nos any local or close fisheires near my in notts or if not just a good population on them.

[gs425e]

hi good luck with your quest but there are a few you have either caught or missed out on as there are a few very rare species that live in the deep lochs of scotland that are protected species so to catch a complete list of uk freshwater fish is nigh on in possible.. eg the powan and several char species cheers andy

[Corndawg]

im trying to catch all the freshwater fish in the uk and so far ive only need to catch a grayling,char,salmon,eel and zander and im done so dont spose any nos any local or close fisheires near my in notts or if not just a good population on them.


Have a word with Nev Flicking at Castaway tackle in Gainsborough....

What he doesn't know about Zeds isn't worth knowing.....

Fens is supposed to be a good spot for them.......


Grayling ?....

River Don in North Sheffield.....around Deepcar/Stockbridge area.

Eels,

Anywhere on the Trent,or it's subsiduaries.....try Fosdyke Navigation at Saxilby,Lincs.........


Salmon.......

Heard reports of Salmon on the Don at Sprotborough,Doncaster,but not seen anything to prove it.....

Char ?....

Now you're struggling............

[Kleftiwallah]

Three perch from the landing stage at Pooley Bridge Ullswater, but then a 'few' trout from various becks......Tony.

[gs425e]

hi this is quite an intreseting subject as to claim to caught nearly all the uk freshwater fish .. recognised angling species yes possible ..all uk fish no i just done a search on the rarer species of houting inc the powan and char species some of the species only live in 1 or 2 protected lochs ,,even fish as the 3 spine stickleback can be difficult to catch on rod and line,what about alien species if you included carp, zander and cats ..you need to included fish as guppies pumpkinseeds.. and other fish like sub species of carp ..kois and grass carp also what about trout species including the blue rainbow and tiger trout the list is far to long to get anywhere near a complete list of uk freshwater fish,,as you cannot distinguish between one specie and the next if it resides in a uk water cheers andy

[wriggitt]

if you want to catch grayling try river dove between the two bridges on A50 stoke-derby road
and its free fishing also chub, dace, trout

[jackfishing21]

hi this is quite an intreseting subject as to claim to caught nearly all the uk freshwater fish .. recognised angling species yes possible ..all uk fish no i just done a search on the rarer species of houting inc the powan and char species some of the species only live in 1 or 2 protected lochs ,,even fish as the 3 spine stickleback can be difficult to catch on rod and line,what about alien species if you included carp, zander and cats ..you need to included fish as guppies pumpkinseeds.. and other fish like sub species of carp ..kois and grass carp also what about trout species including the blue rainbow and tiger trout the list is far to long to get anywhere near a complete list of uk freshwater fish,,as you cannot distinguish between one specie and the next if it resides in a uk water cheers andy

i am only counting species not sub as like a golden tench is just a gold tench no gernetic differcnce just skin tone. as for the deep loch species all but char are illegal to catch any way so i cant catch them and have intention of as u mentioned with stickle backs its almost impossible to get one on hook n line so i used a tiddler net wihch ive also had bullhead,loach and minnow in.

my full list if i can remeber properly is:
carp, crucain carp, grass carp, wels catfish, barbel, tench, brown/sea trout, rainbow trout, roach, rudd, silver bream, common bream, bleak, ruffe, gudgeon, minnow, spined loach, stone loach, bullhead, 3 and 10 spined stickle back, golden orfe, ide, perch, goldfish, chub, dace and last but not least pike with some sub species like koi and golden tench

[gs425e]

hi thats a quite impressive list but if you included gold fish etc then there are species such as bitterling pumpkinseeds etc that are well established in varius lakes canels etc so to complete the list you still have a fair way to go there are species such as orfes blue etc if you included golden that are alien but are caught on rod and line anglers paradise etc hold numbers of these also i know what you are saying but to catch a fish in a net is not angling you might as well use a trammel and say you have caught one technicaly yes,, angling no so why is species like char out then !! have you tried to get special dispensation? to say you catching evey specie of freshwater fish is not reality but a personal target list is reality there are a few species that enter freshwater have you included these ? there are also some so called sub species but are infact species themseves ferox trout is a fish that is targeted but rarely caught in numbers. cheers andy

[wriggitt]

bitterling - shropshire union canal, nantwich

[Snaggletooth]

Zander and eel from river severn.

[wriggitt]

the new record for a zander was taken from river severn

http://www.angling-news.co.uk/Angling_News_Weekly-Coarse_Report.html

[blankerman]

tbh,was very surprised to not see eel on your caught list,as they are a common byecatch just about everywhere on most baits.probably a bit cold for targetting eels now,as they are more active when it's warm,particularly at night.
another for your list is the lamprey,not the easiest things to get though...unless still attached to a fish.

[Davy Holt]

Hiya,

Powan: Balmah pier on Loch Lomond, either fish with a sliding float or quivertip maggots at range for the roach & dace.. once you get them feeding you can almost guarantee a powan or three showing up. (just make sure you release them right away).

[Snaggletooth]

Looks as if Ruffe are missing from your list.

[Davy Holt]

Looks as if Ruffe are missing from your list.

can get them from Balmaha pier also :)

edit: it dont matter now as Ruffe is on his list :)

[cupboardlad]

hello mate , if you want to catch char then fish coniston water in the lakes , they come into the shallow water at around march the 10th and you can catch them on a large waggler, the anglers from wigan used to catch bin bags full of them up untill a few years ago and sell them to all the resteraunts around the lakes , so they moved the char fishing season forward a few weeks , but you could possibly phone the waterboard and ask for special permission,
and as for bitterling , go and fish the sankey canal in st helens and after about 5 mins and your 20th fish , give up and go somewhere else ( their a pain in the ars*)
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
cuberd

[jackfishing21]

hi thats a quite impressive list but if you included gold fish etc then there are species such as bitterling pumpkinseeds etc that are well established in varius lakes canels etc so to complete the list you still have a fair way to go there are species such as orfes blue etc if you included golden that are alien but are caught on rod and line anglers paradise etc hold numbers of these also i know what you are saying but to catch a fish in a net is not angling you might as well use a trammel and say you have caught one technicaly yes,, angling no so why is species like char out then !! have you tried to get special dispensation? to say you catching evey specie of freshwater fish is not reality but a personal target list is reality there are a few species that enter freshwater have you included these ? there are also some so called sub species but are infact species themseves ferox trout is a fish that is targeted but rarely caught in numbers. cheers andy

ive actually been to anglers paradise n caught most sub speices as for the net its the only practicule way to get small fish i am following the foot steps of the tv show 'great rod race' which is my templete and im adding some to it. and though u think its not a realtiy i mean every legal,sizeble fish i can catch and i think it is ive arranged several trips next year for eel,zander and grayling and looking for salmon n char so wen i complete it i will post it on here stairght away i also am taking pictures of every fish other wise theres no proof ive done it

[Wrassemaster]

size 22 hook on 1/2lb line baited with part of a maggot will get your small stickles and minnows. I used to do it all the time for live bait until they made livebaiting illegal on my local freshwater.

[madangler153]

There is a big lake in rhyl behind the marina caravan park (near a sewing factory) that is full of stonking eels. I used to catch 4or5 a session using a size 2 with 2 lobworms wrapped around quiver tipping . Eels will take big lobs. they are a b...er for swallowing hooks though so use a decent size!

[gs425e]

hi jackfishing i remember the show well ..in parts it was ok part i thought it was taking things a bit far when they fished someones garden pond for a goldfish....i dont doubt your sincerity in trying to achieve your aim but there are parameters that are not reachable to get a complete list of all uk fish surely sub species must be included as they are technically diffrent to other members of the family group also catching true crucians is a science in its self as many are hybrids,,, also how many ailen species have you included in your list included one then technacally you should included them all, as you have caught carp and wels catfish ,, a complete list is a complete list not a half list .. should you achieve such a feat you will have my heartest congratulations . cheers andy

[gs425e]

hi i see you have a spined loach in your list it appear to only inhabit 5 rivers in the uk and in very patchy isolated groups and although not rare in europe.. it is a threatened specie in the uk... i would be intersted to know where you caught it? cheers andy

[blankerman]

not sure,but would burbot,sturgeon,allis chad,chad twaite,flounder,mullet,bass plus others be included,as all these venture or live part of their lives in fresh water

noticed gudgeon was missing from your list

[Snaggletooth]

not sure,but would burbot,sturgeon,allis chad,chad twaite,flounder,mullet,bass plus others be included,as all these venture or live part of their lives in fresh water

noticed gudgeon was missing from your list

Ah, the same way that I noticed Ruffe was missing and it wasn't.:wallbash:

[gs425e]

hi its without a doubt ..to catch every sprcie of fish that inhabits or part inhabits a uk freshwater enviroment including migratory ,alien and visiting species would a monumental task i wonder if you would ever complete the list as would you need to add hybrids to the list as well ? i would think so...as they are different to there parents.. !. cheers andy

[tagman]

Used to be a student in Nottingham, and caught several Zander on the canal that runs past the forest football ground. There is a boat turning area close to the BBC TV place that did especially well at night for the Zeds. It the bit below where the waterpipe enters the canal.
Live bleak fished at night did well for me.
Spinning also caught a few, (lots of perch though!)
Lots of people dont realise how many zander are in that section if at all, but believe me they are there.
Just be carefull not to trip over the tramps and druggies though.

Regards
tagman

[SuperBassMaster]

sea trout and brown trout can not be claimed as the same fish, no way. and i would say ur on a hiding to nothing really mate as netting shouldnt count either.

can i buy a net and license an then net a 15lb bass and claim as my pb or club record? no.

[jackfishing21]

not sure,but would burbot,sturgeon,allis chad,chad twaite,flounder,mullet,bass plus others be included,as all these venture or live part of their lives in fresh water

noticed gudgeon was missing from your list

i think u wil find it is if u look again
also ruffe
my full list if i can remeber properly is:
carp, crucain carp, grass carp, wels catfish, barbel, tench, brown/sea trout, rainbow trout, roach, rudd, silver bream, common bream, bleak, ruffe, gudgeon, minnow, spined loach, stone loach, bullhead, 3 and 10 spined stickle back, golden orfe, ide, perch, goldfish, chub, dace and last but not least pike with some sub species like koi and golden tench

[jackfishing21]

hi i see you have a spined loach in your list it appear to only inhabit 5 rivers in the uk and in very patchy isolated groups and although not rare in europe.. it is a threatened specie in the uk... i would be intersted to know where you caught it? cheers andy

well the captutre was completely by accedent but as there so rare im curious t ono why you want to no where i caught it from?

[jackfishing21]

sea trout and brown trout can not be claimed as the same fish, no way. and i would say ur on a hiding to nothing really mate as netting shouldnt count either.

can i buy a net and license an then net a 15lb bass and claim as my pb or club record? no.

look brown trout and sea trout are geneticaly the same fish the only difference is one goes to sea and the other does not and the net is just a tiddler net n catching fish like loach on hook n line would be ridiculoius

[jackfishing21]

Used to be a student in Nottingham, and caught several Zander on the canal that runs past the forest football ground. There is a boat turning area close to the BBC TV place that did especially well at night for the Zeds. It the bit below where the waterpipe enters the canal.
Live bleak fished at night did well for me.
Spinning also caught a few, (lots of perch though!)
Lots of people dont realise how many zander are in that section if at all, but believe me they are there.
Just be carefull not to trip over the tramps and druggies though.

Regards
tagman

thanks i never realised there wa any there ive caught perch and roach in matches there but never any zeds will deffo have to give it a try

[gs425e]

hi im curious to know only for the fact that as you live quite away from where they inhabit did you make a special trip there ? i think that if you are trying to catch every uk freshwater fish i would like to see some piccies of the rarer one to varify that they are what they are a full photo libary of uk freshwater fish captures thats something to behold cheers andy

[gs425e]

hi others to consider are the smelt and vendace...also the dwarf lamprey that live in isolated pockets in the isles of scotland and some rare group clusters of brown trout varients that could be added to the list also the spineless three spine stickleback(gasterosteus aculeatus) yes that lives in the outer hebrides now that would be a feat in its self to add that to your list how big did you say your list was...mm maybe you need a pencil cheers andy

[flatline]

If you are going to target eels for your list...please treat them kindly, unhook them and release them gently.

"eels need friends too...."

[SuperBassMaster]

look brown trout and sea trout are geneticaly the same fish the only difference is one goes to sea and the other does not and the net is just a tiddler net n catching fish like loach on hook n line would be ridiculoius

ur wrong mate, i challenge you to catch a real sea trout and come back and tell me it was th same as a brownie.

sea trout are genetically different in that they are migratory fish, a brownie does not just decide, um, i think il pop down to the ocean to have lunch. sea trout only come from sea trout eggs, and they are not the same.

[SuperBassMaster]

i think you should abandon your claim to catching all the species in uk pal, aint gonna happen. question dodger alert

[gs425e]

hi quite right super bass master i thiought it was a claim that could never be met,, i would like to be on his session when he targets sturgeon thou. now no british river hold any 2 centuries there was a few in the major rivers including the thames maybe if he fishes there i could be his witness when he notifys the crown of its cature,,,, that would be cool also when he says he caught a wels cat he must then target the american bull /black cat fish as there is a listing in the british records caught in billericcy 1lb + also if hes caught a zander them the walleye must be on the list to target again a british record entry caught from the delph mm maybe a bit more thought needs to be put into the claim what about the skelly again a british record listing i am still wanting to see the piccies ,,cheers andy ps did he know the spined loach can sting handle with care

[tinnyboy_1]

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj21/tinnyboy_1/DSC00245edit.jpg


Is this what I think it is? Not me but my mate in the piccy which is why I've covered his face.

[gs425e]

hi its a startlet stocked into many coarse lakes around the country i have caught several myself from furnace lakes in sussex cheers andy

[Davy Holt]

Hiya,

Yup it's a Sterlet, not a native breeding UK species so technically shouldn't be on a UK species list :)

[tinnyboy_1]

http://www.sturgeon-web.co.uk/sterlet.htm

still a true sturgeon though m8, albeit not a 'wild' one.:yeah:

Tinny

[gs425e]

hi an a relative alien specie not a native british sturgeon,,cannot be classed as one nether,,you can buy them in the pet shop for your garden pond.. easy to catch if you fishing a lake stocked with them fight quite well cheers andy

[blankerman]

hi an a relative alien specie not a native british sturgeon,,cannot be classed as one nether,,you can buy them in the pet shop for your garden pond.. easy to catch if you fishing a lake stocked with them fight quite well cheers andy


would like to disagree.sturgeon,though not caught for many years used to travel up large rivers like the severn,but a completely different variety to the garden centre varieties

[gs425e]

hi thats what i said sterlets are members of the sturgeon family and are alien species the native sturgeon has not been caught for over 2 centuries


THE STERLET ACIPENSER RUTHENUS THE SMALLEST EUROPEON STURGEON USUALLY GROWS TO ONLY 4LB

THE SIBERIAN STURGEON ACIPENSER BAERI USUALLY SOLD AS STERLET OR LONG NOSED STARLET CAN GROW TO 5FT

ALSO THE DIAMOND STURGEON IS THE FASTEST GROWING EUROPEAN STURGEON

CHEERS ANDY

[ms1000]

You can add Houting, Brook Trout, Allis Shad, Twaite Shad to the need to catch list too.

Impossible task, but great fun to try.

[Wrassemaster]

Just watched Mick Brown catching sticklebacks on tv the same way as I mentioned earlier but using size26 hooks and a match as a float.

[blankerman]

acipenser sturio (up to 600kg) was still being caught in the severn in the 1950's,last sighted in the late eighties and last uk sighting was in the tywi (spellind?) 1993.think one was caught in the sea at portland more recently,so may still be resident.:fishing:

[jackfishing21]

the spined loach was from the river trent n the defferniton of a native fish is up for question carp have been here for hundreds of years and the most popular coarse fish by far and to be honest what is a native fish nowdays with all the exotic species coming over?
i can see a really problem with alot of people and that is disbeleaf the task is possible just needs careful fought,planing and paitence and i fully intend to do it.
as for alien species you tell me what are alien species and i will tick em of the list but fish like rainbow trout, catfish and zander are all alien fish but on the BRITISH rod caught list so there for a british reconised fish by a panel of experts

[blankerman]

just found that the last uk native sturgeon was caught in swansea bay 2nd june 2004

[Davy Holt]

Hiya,
I would go with the definition of Native being fish that actually breed in UK waters. If they cant breed in our waters then they have to be continually stocked

[gs425e]

hi jack fishing the british record fish list is not a list of british species just rod caught fish in the uk,,,.. the carp that people are so fond of catching now are not native they are king carp and come from places like holland ,france germany the wild carp is thought to be native but there was some conjecture over its origins great input on the sturgeon there is believed to be a small revival in the population of these fish which is great news... cheers andy

[gusmcg]

You can get salmon, eel and artic charr from the river spey along with sea, river and brook lamprey.

[tinnyboy_1]

just thinking back...........I used to go fish the duck pond at Preston the Serpentine and we used to catch sticklebacks with a piece of cotton with a worm tied on the end. The fish would just suck on the worm and you could lift em out and into your jamjar(with the requisite piece of string tied round it). Good old days

[tamoshanter]

well i have to just say good luck with your list think your doing not to bad :thumbs:

[captin]

had 76 carp to 51lb 12oz in south africa in 99 12 40s to 48 37 upper 30s 26 twentys in 35 days at klassire dam then moved to a dam out side of jo burg and caught over 30 fish to 46lb in 21 days then i had to come back to england i now only bother carping in france my mates have some mentel lakes just past paris took 3 old boys last aprill and between them they had 24 forties in one week plus a shed load of 30s i had a nice 48 common that week pluss 5 moore 40s you dont get results like that here in england :victory:

[SuperBassMaster]

yeah wel my cats blacker than your cat

[captin]

that makes you a right pussy lol:bleh::bleh::bleh::bleh:

[nelson66]

Hi Jack,

It is my ambition this year to catch all the fish on the environment agency record fish list (yes they have one if you know where to look)
Here is the link.

http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/commondata/acrobat/record_fish_list_2_1885850.pdf

Whilst this list is not up to date it does give you some idea of what your task should be.

There is however a second list of fish that the environment agency has, which lists the fish that are either native to, or commonly found in UK Waters.
This list can be found at as an appendix in the document you can access via this link.

http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/commondata/acrobat/fisheries_eng_765655.pdf


For those who cant be bothered to follow the link these are the fish that are on the list.
Principal Angled Fish Species
Dace, Barbel, Chub, Roach, Rudd, Carp, Crucian Carp, Orfe, Goldfish, Gudgeon, Pike, Perch, Common Bream, Silver Bream, Tench, Ruffe, Bleak.
Non Angled Coarse Fish And Conservation Species
Allis Shad, Twaite Shad, Minnow, Bullhead, Stoneloach, Spinedloach, 3 Spined Stickleback, 10 Spined stickleback, Vendace, Powan/Schelly/Gwyniad.
Salmonids
Atlantic Salmon, Sea/brown/ferrox trout, Rainbow Trout, Arctic char, Greyling.
Eels
European Eel
Lampreys
Marine, River, Brook.
Non Native Recorded In The Wild
Zander, Bitterling, Ictalurid Catfish, Ameiurid Catfish, Wels Catfish, American Brook Trout, Common White Sucker, Flathead Minnow, Grass Carp, Landlocked Salmon, large mouth black bass, Sturgeon/Sterlet, Sunbleak, Pumpkinseed, Top Mouthed Gudgeon.

Well thats quite a list.
The Great Rod Race missed off more than a few of those!
However - should people really be fishing for some of these endagered rare fish - especially the shads?

My List consists of all of them but not the shads and vendace (well i might give the vendace a go as i know where to catch them.)

Interesting to note that Brown, Ferrox and Sea Trout are all classed as the same species - salmo trutta- as they have such differences.
I shall be attempting to catch each variety.

Of the non natives i am going to be adding Zander, Bitterling and Pumpkinseed to the list as they can be caught in "the wild" but am not adding catfish as these are all recently stocked (ie in the last 25 years).

I shall give you my full list on my next post.

Mike

[boiliestop]

matt hayes already done it

[nelson66]

Matt Hayes caught 33 species of fish including 7 types of carp.
Not a bad effort!
but he didnt catch a silver bream, or a 10 spined stickleback, or a spinedloach or many of the others in the lists above.