pike port talbot docks

[cod-mania]

this is know as a big pike water with the record being 27lb and i am going to fish ther tomorow (first time pike fishing) ill be dead baiting with mackerel ..... i got my treble hooks my wire traces n all the rest of it but the main question is what would you say is a must for deadbaiting??????? thanks in advance

[Rob]

Presentation. Hook your fish with the bottom treble half way down the flank, the top one in the wrist of the tail. Pike will take a deadbait head first, the bait hooked the other way will reduce your hookups. It also prevents deep hooking.

Will be giving it a go myself soon.

[sharpshooter]

this is know as a big pike water with the record being 27lb and i am going to fish ther tomorow (first time pike fishing) ill be dead baiting with mackerel ..... i got my treble hooks my wire traces n all the rest of it but the main question is what would you say is a must for deadbaiting??????? thanks in advance

Went piking with a college mate of mine a few times - he was a bit good at catching pike on the quiet....
From what i learnt from him; it is important to minimise the resistance the fish would feel when picking up the bait - slack lines, light weights and running legers.
He also showed me how to attatch and cast a dead bait. Tie a small loop of mono-lineand tie it around the tail of the fish (or use a bait needle and go through the wrist of the bait fish. Place trebles in bait as required, then, the tail loop attatched to your bait is put in a bait clip, very similar to the system used by beach anglers.
All the weight of the cast is held by the tail of the bait fish. None of the casting weight is placed on the trebles - resulting in much better bait presentation.
All my rigs were tied on the bank with what i had in my fishing box - easy peasy, and my rigs worked fine because, on our last outing, i caught and he didnt!!

[tinker]

this is know as a big pike water with the record being 27lb and i am going to fish ther tomorow (first time pike fishing) ill be dead baiting with mackerel ..... i got my treble hooks my wire traces n all the rest of it but the main question is what would you say is a must for deadbaiting??????? thanks in advance

Hi m8 did u get my pm i 4got 2 say live bait is what u catch there roach,skimmer etc take some maggots allways helps 2 catch live bait or attract them.good luck.TIGHT LINES

[cod-mania]

Hi m8 did u get my pm i 4got 2 say live bait is what u catch there roach,skimmer etc take some maggots allways helps 2 catch live bait or attract them.good luck.TIGHT LINES

i got ur pm mate but sadly i cant .... well i can but im not going to go fishing today mate (bad weather:schmoll:) thanks though

[mogon]

flatten the barbs on your trebles apart from the one in your bait as it makes for better unhooking.

[cod-mania]

cheers for the advice all im a bit pi$$ed off i didnt go today (didnt want to brave the weather 2 days in a row)

any more ideas???

[mogon]

another good way of catching pike is to night fish for them ive had some cracking fish on large herrings and sardines night fishing close in.

[SuperBassMaster]

always use barbless trebles, hit all runs early as posssible and do not ever use light weights and slack lines as another user above has suggested!!
as it only results in deephooked and dead fish. use braid, minimum 2 oz lead and keep it all nice and tight. if using live bait use it under a light bung and hit bites early. pm me if u want more advice, i pike fish at least once a week in winter have had 6 doubles this year already best 15lb 9ozs

[shadrapper]

as a dyed in the wool piker who has recently converted to sea fishing i can only recommend that if its your 1st time piking then do NOT go alone. go with someone who knows what they're doing. too many novices go piking and they think it'll be so easy. then they hook and land a pike and dont have a clue what to do.

if you need any tips then go here http://www.pacgb.co.uk/

ps take a large landing net and an unhooking mat too

[cod-mania]

:happy:thanks for all the advice and i now think ive got everything coverd

thbaks again:happy:

[SuperBassMaster]

as a dyed in the wool piker who has recently converted to sea fishing i can only recommend that if its your 1st time piking then do NOT go alone. go with someone who knows what they're doing. too many novices go piking and they think it'll be so easy. then they hook and land a pike and dont have a clue what to do.

if you need any tips then go here http://www.pacgb.co.uk/

ps take a large landing net and an unhooking mat too

too true, and then b4 u know it big pike die, jacks take over and the water is spoiled.

cod mania, if u wana learn get urself down ere and il show u matey

[shadrapper]

too true, and then b4 u know it big pike die, jacks take over and the water is spoiled.

cod mania, if u wana learn get urself down ere and il show u matey

yeah mate happened to my local water years ago. never recovered. and to this day you still see noddies fishing with no adequate bite indication.

[cod-mania]

:happy::happy::happy:ok i think ill try and find someone around my area so i can learn how to fish the docks better not only piking skills thanks

[sharpshooter]

always use barbless trebles, hit all runs early as posssible and do not ever use light weights and slack lines as another user above has suggested!!
as it only results in deephooked and dead fish. use braid, minimum 2 oz lead and keep it all nice and tight. if using live bait use it under a light bung and hit bites early. pm me if u want more advice, i pike fish at least once a week in winter have had 6 doubles this year already best 15lb 9ozs

Never had the trouble of deep hooked fish, although i always used alarms with sensor bars rather than rollers; always on the most sensitive setting, and struck early.
Not caught that many pike really - 20 or so to 15lb ish (never really bother to weigh fish - it does not bother me like that) I have yet to deep hook one, and they all certainly swan away strongly.

[SuperBassMaster]

Never had the trouble of deep hooked fish, although i always used alarms with sensor bars rather than rollers; always on the most sensitive setting, and struck early.
Not caught that many pike really - 20 or so to 15lb ish (never really bother to weigh fish - it does not bother me like that) I have yet to deep hook one, and they all certainly swan away strongly.

wellthen u are luckt mate it maybe that ur quality alarms are helping, but i always advise novice anglers to do as i said above it really does make a difference, specially when using smaller baits. benn piking since i was 4 lol and lost count, learned the hard way with a few fish thankfully they were jacks and i did learn my lesson quickly, they gotta be looked after and as u have said, hitting them early is absolutely crucial

[shadrapper]

:happy::happy::happy:ok i think ill try and find someone around my area so i can learn how to fish the docks better not only piking skills thanks

stick a post up on the pike and predators forum asking for some assistance at teaching you to fish for pike safely. i'm pretty sure there will be someone out there who will help you out.

http://www.totalcoarsefishing.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.pl#2

[shadrapper]

Never had the trouble of deep hooked fish, although i always used alarms with sensor bars rather than rollers; always on the most sensitive setting, and struck early.
Not caught that many pike really - 20 or so to 15lb ish (never really bother to weigh fish - it does not bother me like that) I have yet to deep hook one, and they all certainly swan away strongly.

nice to se some anglers fishing the correct way. i personally use the roller style alarms coupled with a weighted drop off arm. IMO the drop off is the most important part of this style of setup. the amount of noddies that i see fishing a local water without alarms or indicators is astonishing. and then you see them walking away from there rods. no excuse!

[SuperBassMaster]

nice to se some anglers fishing the correct way. i personally use the roller style alarms coupled with a weighted drop off arm. IMO the drop off is the most important part of this style of setup. the amount of noddies that i see fishing a local water without alarms or indicators is astonishing. and then you see them walking away from there rods. no excuse!

same as that hear hear, imo i think all anglers should have to attend a pike handling class befroe bein allowed to tackle pike, never happen tho

[shadrapper]

same as that hear hear, imo i think all anglers should have to attend a pike handling class befroe bein allowed to tackle pike, never happen tho

well said mate but sadly as you say it will never happen:wallbash:

off piking this weekend as the sea fishing has been so slow. off to a we wild water as i have sickened masel wi the trout water piking. if i get a lump i'll post on here

tight lines mate if you get out.

[sharpshooter]

wellthen u are luckt mate it maybe that ur quality alarms are helping, but i always advise novice anglers to do as i said above it really does make a difference, specially when using smaller baits. benn piking since i was 4 lol and lost count, learned the hard way with a few fish thankfully they were jacks and i did learn my lesson quickly, they gotta be looked after and as u have said, hitting them early is absolutely crucial

Coming from a mainly sea angling back ground; fishing with "tight lines" was all i knew before I was taken piking with my 'learned' friend. He explained that larger fish would drop any bait they picked up if they felt resistance; which made sence to me.
I totally agree that pike are not a hardy fish and must be treated with the upmost respect.
Not been piking for ages now - not much in that way of fishing here in cornwall :( but the vast majority of the times I have been I have either worked plugs (the good ol' J13 works for the pike as well as bass :) ) or wobbled dead baits. I prefur to fish light and mobile, rather than sitting behind a rod pod for the duration; although for longer sessions, a good tent / base camp is a must.

[nemosharktale]

sounds to me that everyone must spend alot of money at this pikeing game not much chance of the kids getting into it that much luckly l dont use bait for them just lure fishing sounds alot cheaper as well you just need a rod reel line lure and hook remover and a way you.
25ib pike at bass lake last week on dead bait was in the news paper

[shadrapper]

i have spent the last 3 years fishing a trout water and i have had something like 60 odd 20 plussers and 2 30 plussers. the vast majority of these fish have been on jerkbaits and during winter. great to keep mobile as said previously. on this water livebaits were absolutely deadly until they got banned and it wasn't unusual to be using lives up to 1lb and a half-2lb. i practically gave up deadbaiting on this water as i never had any luck with them.

lures are defo the way for me and i only stop luring when it becomes unbearably cold to do it.

[Rob]

sounds to me that everyone must spend alot of money at this pikeing game not much chance of the kids getting into it that much

Not really, I use my float gear that I use for sea fishing, I just add a wire trace and semi barbless hooks. What you really need is a good landing net though, but other than that it's like any hobby, you can spend a fortune on the very best kit or buy what you need. You could get a youngster piking for under 50 quid easy, most spend more than that on Wii games.