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    with the hound season upon us ( well i have been advised that it will be soon) i have read, been told about using ponger and velvets. question is how do you use hard back crabs as a bait, in detail please... how do you get them on the hook how do you get them to stay on the hook, how to cast with them ??

    2nd question is what is a velvet. i have found hard back crabs tonight that are purple to look at with large back paddle like legs. are these velvets ??

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    Hi mate,i am sure meatsack on here posted about hooking hardbacks somewhere on the forum as he uses them to target wrasse,might be worth sending him a pm if nobody else comes along first?

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    Velvets are what they feel like. Run a finger across its back and you will see. Also they have big red eyes and as you say big paddles on their back legs.

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    and quick and viscious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfgang View Post
    and quick and viscious.
    And that too. Had one pinch me once, bugger wouldn't let go even its claw pulled off.

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    When you hook a hardback crab for bait use an old large hook and make a hole in the back of the crab so that you bait hook will go through it and out of the other side then fold back the back legs and whip them to the shank of the hook with elastic this way you can give them a fair bit of welly when casting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by govner View Post
    with the hound season upon us ( well i have been advised that it will be soon) i have read, been told about using ponger and velvets. question is how do you use hard back crabs as a bait, in detail please... how do you get them on the hook how do you get them to stay on the hook, how to cast with them ??

    2nd question is what is a velvet. i have found hard back crabs tonight that are purple to look at with large back paddle like legs. are these velvets ??
    Hi
    I had a couple of goes last year with hard backs for hounds, they worked fine. It has to be said that both times I used them there were loads of fish about, not sure if there are only a few fish if they will still work as well as peeler.

    All I do is remove claws, use long nose pliars and crunch the shell 2 or 3times and then lash on with plenty of elastic, 3/0 or 4/0 hook

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    I've tried hardbacks for hounds 4 or 5 times whilst boat fishing Thames & Hayling Island resulting in 1 missed bite (in solent) .
    I was told that you need clear water and that small 50p sized crabs worked best.
    Like Bobfish says I reckon you would need to be on a big shoal of active feeding Smuts or it to work well.
    Sorry to be negative as hardbacks are obviously free & easy to get!

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    thanks for the info, so punger crab is that not very good for hounds. i have heard people rave about it ?

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    ok, my take. i primarily use hardback velvets, as big as you like. as stated, they're fast and visious, 'Ninjas' we call em here!

    i usually freeze them whole upon returning home as they don't normally live more than a fewhours, even in water.

    when using them (fresh or defrosting) i lay them on their back, use a big old kitchen knife which i lay ass to face, then hit it with something hard, this chops the crab clean in half, with the aid of a small kife you can remove the top shel, but keep the 'skin' underneath intact, whip this mess up, i use a pennel normally, one out thru the fleshy part, and another thru the legs, whipped on again.

    clip and whack!

    if the crab isn't very big i tend to pull the legs off of one side, then do the same, but mash the shell a bit before casting.

    all my decent hounds have come to velvet.

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