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09-03-2006, 18:54 #1WSF Hardcore Poster
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alan.w
Hi,still trying to get some info on fishing the med(greece),anyone got any tips. ie;baits,tackle.on hols there later this year.cheers alan.w
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09-03-2006, 21:21 #2WSF Hardcore Poster
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The Med
Take some good old one metre long frogfeet/flippers and buy a 2 band speargun OUT THERE , take an under water light waterproof to about 10 fathoms .
Go out at night any where near rocks. jetties and boats looking for octopus.
When they see your light they swim towards you , shoot in between the eyes and nail it first time or else you will have an octopus trying to make love to your face and mask which can be somewhat amusing for you if it is a 7 -9 pounder .
When hit they also try and hide on your body/face . In reality they are trying to seek shelter in your shadow but it certainly put the wind up me when I got my first one wrapped around my mush. Just keep peeling the tenticles off your facemask and tube , put them on your hand /arm and swim to safe place then unwrap it off yourself .....DON'T PANIC ( Haha )
If you don't have the bottle for the octopus then try early in the mornings as day is breaking or as dusk is falling for normal type fish . Usually they are near the sewer outlets ...watch out for THAMES TROUT and SEASLUGS. Dont swallow the water and treat any cuts or scrapes with iodine. as soon as you have showered after fishing.
If that does not appeal to you then swim out about 300 mtrs with your buoy and look for any of the shelves that abound at about 15 mtrs down . Look for lots of opened sea urchings or shells ... shells with a little line of holes along them are favourite food of the octopus.
If you are lucky you can spear flatties about 4 inches across from sandy botoms . Sea bream upto about 12 inches and some red mullet type fish if you are very very lucky usually found within 100 mtrs of rocks . Be careful of spiney fish comming up under you out of sea grass trying to escape etc if you are swimming in shallow water !* - 24 inches they can be painful in your tacklebox area.
Becareful when swimming shallow over rock that the waves dont smash you on the rock when you are in the wave troughs
Any other sort of fish are better got from a boat but in the Med you pay Med Holiday prices.
SAFETY WARNING make sure you have a partner in a safety boat and also have a 500 mm red buoy or the locally recognised marker buoy to tow above you .
Jet ski and speed boats regularly mince up subaqua and snorkellers as well as plain old swimmers and they are nigh on bullet proof if they are locals.
NEVER EVER LOAD THE SPEARGUN ON DRY LAND OR IN BATHING AREAS.
LEARN TO LOAD THE GUN AGAINST YOUR GUT WHEN YOU ARE ABOUT 60 MTRS AWAY FROM THE BEACH /SWIMMERS IN YOU SEE HUMANS NEAR ,SAFETY ON AND SWIM AWAY.
ALWAYS DISCHARGE THE GUN IF NOT USED INTO DEEP WATER BEFORE COMING BACK TO THE BEACH. NEVER DISCHARGE UP INTO THE AIR OR INTO THE SAND , YOU MIGHT GET IT COME BACK AT YOURSELF.
On the other hand you can try and rod fish but I don't think youll get much from the shore , I never did catch any thing on two three week hols in Spetse and Rhodes nor did I manage anything on a rod during a total of 11 months in Cyprus over several years.Last edited by David Gould; 09-03-2006 at 21:25.
[B] Sea angling 2012 survey & boat survey , be warned that various paid people male or female will be trying to find out what you are fishing for , what you spend and how often you do it etc.. They won't necessarily have a clip board or visable ID and may be part of a family or group you don't know.
It is for Brussels and anti sea fishing groups to use with the possible introduction of a sea angling licence & horrific restrictions on your sea angling ...... talk to them at your peril.
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11-03-2006, 10:50 #3WSF Hardcore Poster
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Thanks dave for your very specific report mate,nice one.guess i shall just lap up the sunshine then,forget the fishing and watch the birdies go by.cheers alan.w
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13-03-2006, 18:29 #4WSF Hardcore Poster
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while i was out in corfu,i watched as a local was having a go with his rod.
he used a fairly long handled landing net+he dragged it along the harbour wall,
where he caught loads of shrimps which he ledgered on the bottom.
he used a 8or9 ft rod+fixed spool+what he caught, he kept in a keep net hanging
over the wall,
he caught bass, bream+ i think it was mullet, about 9 or 10 fish in all.
(but if you dont go fishing, enjoy your hols.PATIENCE IS FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE TIME FOR IT.
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13-03-2006, 22:44 #5WSF Hardcore Poster
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I spent some time in Tunisia & Malta a year or so ago and all the shore fishing I witnessed over there was quite peculiar, a very long rod, similar to 'poles' used in coarse fishing, length of line on the end and just baited and dropped at rod's length, never saw a single fish caught.....what was that all about?
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"It Said Insert Disk #3 But Only Two Would Fit!"
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14-03-2006, 11:04 #6WSF Hardcore Poster
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Spain, Portugal, Greece, same method!
Telescopic rod 3-4 metres long, small fixed spool loaded with say 6llb line a couple of small floats & a packet of size 14-16 hooks, & some split shot will give you great fun catching little fish during the day, using either bits of shrimp, or bits of squid bought from the supermarket.
BUT! the real action starts when the sun goes down! take a small spool of 15lb line with you, & some size 14 trebles, cut a 2ft length of 15lb line, slide 3 trebles onto it, & make a sliding "noose" (use a 5 turn half blood knot) with the trebles inside it, & connect it to your reel line with a small swivel. You can attach a small bubble float if you want to give it weight, but you dont have to. Pull a golf ball sized lump of bread from the INSIDE of a loaf (they dont like the crust), put it inside the noose of 15lb line, LIGHTLY tighten the noose aound the bread, & bury all 3 trebles inside the ball, & cast it out, take the slack out of the line & hold between reel & first eye. Firstly you will feel small tugs as the small fish nibble at the bread, then WHAM as either a mullet, bream, or bass comes up & whacks the lot, bread, trebles, small fish, the full monty! Best bream 3.5lb, best mullet 5.5lb, best bass 4lb.
If you can find a small jetty or pier with lights on it, or somewhere where the tourists feed the little fish by day, get there at dusk & fish at least 2 hrs after dark. Everywhere is open until 6am, & nobody goes out untill 11, so instead of sitting in the hotel bar, get down the jetty, have some fun, & minimise your hangovers!
blueskip
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14-03-2006, 20:44 #7WSF Hardcore Poster
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Greece
Hi Alan
Well Blueskip certainly seems to have come up with an innovative method for fishing from the shore!
At certain times of the year the offshore fishing - trolling - can be reasonable. And a small number of the European light tackle Tuna records have been taken off Greece, normally in the Autumn months, from places like Chalkidki and Neos-Marmaras.
Greece is a big place however and you haven't identified where and when you're going. Looking back through the postings though there're a few threads that might offer some assistance. Here're the urls - http://www.worldseafishing.com/forum...ad.php?t=17470, http://www.worldseafishing.com/forum...ad.php?t=17969, http://www.worldseafishing.com/forum...ad.php?t=17473.
Best of Luck
Dave
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15-03-2006, 10:44 #8WSF Hardcore Poster
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THANKS PANAMA JACK,yes ta everybody who replied to my post,pj im going two weeks in zante,& one week kos so if i dont catch fish i certainly should get a tan.
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16-03-2006, 09:26 #9WSF Hardcore Poster
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Zante
Hi Alan
Just picked up this reference to the island on a UK Fly Fishing forum - http://www.ukswff.co.uk. The report's 'secondhand', originally from a non-angler and somewhat anedotal, but it describes one of the locals attracting a shoal of 'silver fish' to a livebait held splashing on the surface. The chap's friend then fires a cast net at the shoal. They're probably some form of bream? That's unless anyone else can shed light on the practice?
Anyway the specific url's - http://ukswff.proboards26.com/index....ead=1138223294.
Dave
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16-03-2006, 10:44 #10WSF Hardcore Poster
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alan.w
Hi pj,thats a very interesting way of fishing in zante,just have to get myself a long pole line and bait & walk along the shoreline trailing in the water,and get the missus to throw her bloomers on to the chasing fishies
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