Weedy Salmon

**paid4** · 31-08-2006, 14:45

Was watching a fishing programme the other day - chap was fishing for Salmon, he hooked into a decent sized fish and after a Hell of a scrap landed a Salmon around the 6lb mark. 'That looks like fun thinks I and I fancy trying for Bass with that set up' so off I toddle to the RR driving ones' place of business to have a look at some fly rods. Bloody Hell - I've seen thicker things sticking out of the a*se of a peacock - I would be a bit wary of landing the 4lb Bass that put a bend in my uptider last time out on one of them things

So my question is this -

Are Salmon and Trout really all they're cracked up fighting wise to be or is it the lightweight tackle that flatters them?

**seatrout** · 31-08-2006, 15:15

hi paid4

i do both sea and trout fishing and i have caught 10 lb trout that came in like a sack of spuds and a 3lb trout that took loads of backing and the same for sea fish but have not caught a 10lb bass but i have caught them up to 4lb on fly gear and the same some come in easy and some wont give up.

but a bass running and your reel screeming wow your heart is pounding and you will have the bug for salt water fly fishing.

so dont worry about how thick the rod is just buy the right one a salt water outfit is all you need to get started

hope you get that 6lb bass

TomBettle · 31-08-2006, 15:16

Try fishing light and you will see what great fun it is.

We catch big Bass, Tope, Conger etc etc on tackle that most people would use for perch fishing in the local river.

Good quality gear will bend but not break and give line rather than jam.

One of the best fun I had was catching 20lb plus Ling on a canal bomb rod or Conger to 45lb on a "joke" plastic fishing rod.

The tackle should be matched to the conditions you are fishing in rather than the fish you intend to catch.

Tom

**grumpysod** · 31-08-2006, 15:21

Salmon and trout are great fighters, however I personally think that most people use tackle that is far too heavy for lure and fly fishing fishing, I spin for salmon and trout and use a 5-20g 8ft rod with 6 or 8lb line. It is a hell of a lot of fun, and tests your skill, my neighbour landed a 17lb 8oz salmon on a similar kit - 7g Mepps, 7ft rod and 6 lb line, I'd have lost the fish, but he took his time and after about 40 minutes he landed it.
If you use a fly rod. it's exactly the same, you can go light, or you can use a one like a brush shaft. Don't forget that your uptider is a multipurpose rod, designed to catch a variety of different species, whereas a fly rod is designed mainly for game fish like the salmon and trout, the bendiness is a shock absorber, so that the fish doesn't break the line.

If you want an example, take a look at the septics, they catch hard fighting fish well into double figures on little 5 and 6 feet rods that we'd give to a kid to play with, when they go after trout and salmon they also use lighter rods than we would. It's about sport, if you want to to test yourelf against the target fish, use the lightest kit that you dare, and if you land that 4 pounder on a fly rod, then you're one up on the bloke fishing down the shore using his carp rod

**paid4** · 31-08-2006, 15:56

Thanks for all the replies - don't get me wrong - I'm a big fan of fishing as light as possible - my favourite rod at the moment is a Shimano Exage spinning rod which I use for everything including light ledgering, A Shimano fs and 10lb line complete the outfit. This makes even schoolie Bass look good and is great fun. But I've had Bass on beachcasters that have put up a scrap and the point I was trying to make I suppose is that could Salmon or Trout also fight on heavier gear or are Bass the ultimate 'sport' fish. (let's just keep it to these 3 and leave the Tope, Mackeral for another thread)

**seatrout** · 31-08-2006, 16:04

i would say salmon is the best out of the three for a fight on any gear

**smiley73** · 31-08-2006, 16:24

hey paid4..

i did a bit of home work on saltwater fly fishing, and if you want a pointer for affordable tackle..
have a look on a popular bidding site for the fox impressa bass fly-rod. priced £80 most places,
£40 on the site, or from the back of TSF.

both will last you a good few seasons and its well worth giving it a go! just think 6ft shimano verses huge makkie and you will get the idea.

very nice looking/spec reel for not-so silly money.. http://www.harrissportsmail.com/Mode...?ModelID=14561

both, dedicated saltwater and you could totally kit up for around £150. not bad considering how much ive spent on plugs ect alone LoL

cant wait for next season, chesties and fly in the surf

**paid4** · 01-09-2006, 12:04

Originally Posted by smiley73

hey paid4..

i did a bit of home work on saltwater fly fishing, and if you want a pointer for affordable tackle..
have a look on a popular bidding site for the fox impressa bass fly-rod. priced £80 most places,
£40 on the site, or from the back of TSF.

both will last you a good few seasons and its well worth giving it a go! just think 6ft shimano verses huge makkie and you will get the idea.

very nice looking/spec reel for not-so silly money.. http://www.harrissportsmail.com/Mode...?ModelID=14561

both, dedicated saltwater and you could totally kit up for around £150. not bad considering how much ive spent on plugs ect alone LoL

cant wait for next season, chesties and fly in the surf

Thanks m8 - I've also seen a complete starter kit from Greys for £150 that looks good

BTW - what do you mean next season there should still be Bass about in October.

**poacher** · 01-09-2006, 12:41

bass in october yes, thats when i usually have them, i use my fly gear for bass, great fun m8, we will try it 2 gether one day if you can stand my company, againnnnnnnn??????? hope you are well sirr paid4. poooch?

**paid4** · 01-09-2006, 13:13

Originally Posted by poacher

bass in october yes, thats when i usually have them, i use my fly gear for bass, great fun m8, we will try it 2 gether one day if you can stand my company, againnnnnnnn??????? hope you are well sirr paid4. poooch?

Fish with you anytime pooch

Give me some time to practise making a tit of myself and I'll pm you