marlin fiishing no hooks

**rammses** · 07-09-2006, 18:56

hi was watching a program the other night,they put a large moppet on line and fixed thick string to it,when the marlin grab the moppet the string tangles around their abrasive beak and they cannot get off,and no hook needed,i thought that was a great idea,how about you

**sallysludgebucket** · 07-09-2006, 20:07

Seems a great idea if it works, can't see it catching on with the cod over here though, can you ? LOL

**wilkybarkid** · 07-09-2006, 20:22

Originally Posted by rammses

hi was watching a program the other night,they put a large moppet on line and fixed thick string to it,when the marlin grab the moppet the string tangles around their abrasive beak and they cannot get off,and no hook needed,i thought that was a great idea,how about you

from what i`ve seen on tv...those large muppets are called `teasers` to atract the fish to the surface,mimicing bait fish etc.the boats fishing for large palegics use these.

i hope it wasnt kermit they was using..

**mickeythemackeral** · 07-09-2006, 20:49

Originally Posted by wilkybarkid

i hope it wasnt kermit they was using..

that a quality post lmao

**martinw** · 18-09-2006, 17:59

This method has been used for centuries to catch eels worms wrapped in wool the wool catches on the eels small teeth.

**PanamaJack** · 19-09-2006, 11:50

Hi Martin
And welcome to the forum. That method you're describing for freshwater Eels, where they used to thread worms on the wool, is called 'babbing'.
Dave

Just a point about 'hookless lures' generally.

Certainly a whole variety of 'hookless lures' - teasers - sometimes with a piece of bait sown in them - can be used to attract Marlin and Sailfish to the surface. With the fish up the teaser's usually wound in by one of the crew, enticing it closer but preventing it 'eating' it, and, with it usually around 30' from the transom, it's jerked out of the water. The angler then has either drifted a deadbait back to it - Bait 'n' Switch - which the fish hopefully seizes or cast a fly at it.

However I think what rammses was describing was a lure the skirt of which comprises of 'velcro type' material. There, and I think they're Sailfish rather that Marlin, slash at the lure and the threads do in fact become tangled round the bill. (Small billfish will 'slash' at a lure in an attempt to 'kill' or 'stun' it, whereas bigger fish just swallow them.)

Obviously you can't apply too much pressure when playing a fish like that without the elements of the skirt coming adrift from the bill. Whilst several years ago I can recall a company trying to market such lures I haven't seen them advertised for ages. Perhaps us anglers are too conservative a bunch and prefer hooks in lures?
Dave

**bigads** · 19-09-2006, 12:19

I recall seeing a tv program where the angler used a small s3ction of cord trailing behind the lure, this then became wrapped around the bill of the fish. Just as Panama Jack describes. They caught a few fish using this method.

Lol....I've just read the whole thread......which program was it ramses....