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    WSF Hardcore Poster groomyd's Avatar
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    Will a multiplier always outcast a fixed spool?

    Probably a silly question but i'm very happy using a fixed spool because i'm a freshwater angler turned salty!

    I can cast long and accurate with a fixed spool for carp fishing and have never used a multiplier except for flicking uptide 40 yards or so.

    So really i have 2 casting questions: 1. will a decent multiplier outcast a fixed spool and therefore 2. is it worth learning to use/get a multiplier?

    Or is it really just a question of personal preference?

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    I am a freshy turned salty, I will always find the reel upside down and winding the wrong way weird as I was all but born with a coffee grinder in my hand. I have yet to try a left handed multi, as I hold my rod in the right and wind with left, multis feel all wrong. I hear folks say that they only use a fixed spool at night as they normally watch the lead and stop it on the multi as it hits the water to prevent birdys. I am more confident and comfortable with a fixed spool, I get to where I want to cast, the new breed of distance fixed spools are superb.

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    It depends whos hands its in. A very good caster with a fixed spool will outcast a pretty good caster with a multi
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    Another freshy turned salty. Tried a multi and have given up on it for a while. If at the end of the day you are happy with the distance you are getting stay with the f/s or if your not, try a casting instructor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by groomyd View Post
    Probably a silly question but i'm very happy using a fixed spool because i'm a freshwater angler turned salty!

    I can cast long and accurate with a fixed spool for carp fishing and have never used a multiplier except for flicking uptide 40 yards or so.

    So really i have 2 casting questions: 1. will a decent multiplier outcast a fixed spool and therefore 2. is it worth learning to use/get a multiplier?

    Or is it really just a question of personal preference?

    Hi Groom , its not such a silly question once you have mastered the multiplier reel , i also have more fresh water experience same as you casting 3 1/2 oz leads to the horizon but where the multipler comes into its own is in the retrieval of an 8.0 oz lead with hopefully a fish on the hook and also a 2/3 or 4 knt tide pulling against the rod tip,the line and your arm . There is no resistance on the multiplier reel face only the drum spinning as the line peels off obviousley aiding distance and the only way i can describe the multipler reel is like a small winch dragging all that weight across the sea bed . Definately worth learning the multiplier reel you will never look back as a sea fisherman .

    I can use the multiplier effectively enough for my needs and bird nests are very rare these days but ime sure that the sea experts beach and boat can tell you more than I .

    good luck - wilson .

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    multiplier more suitable

    For me once i mastered the multiplier there was no turning back, quality fixed spools are still great reels to use but i find you can get more control with a multiplier i.e better cast in the wind, more power retrieving and a tighter line for bite detection. An excellent reel to learn with is the Abu 6500c3 ct elite a lovely no fuss well behaved type of reel or any 6500 mag range,don't try and be to greedy with distance at first and you will quickly get the hang of things and become an expert before you know it ,

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    ughhh are multipiers either left or right handed? not both.
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    you will find that once you have mastered a multiplier there is no turning back (although i like to still use a f/s on the odd occasion)
    A few points if you want to buy your first mutliplier:

    1. make sure you buy your first multiplier with a level wind...once you are comfortable with it you can then "do it yourself" by either buying one without a level wind or simply taking the level wind off

    2. Make sure that your brakes are pretty tight...then as you start to learn about the mulitplier gradually loosen them bit by bit...you'l find as you go on, and you distance casting is greatly improving, you can then slacken them right off (or in my case, get the brakes takin out completely)

    3. oh and the third point, dont spend too much on your first multi plier...just get the feel of one first

    obviously people have thier own opinion...there is no better reel for casting (f/s or multi)...distance casting depends on what reel you are most comfortable with!

    Its all personal opinion...if your happy using a fixed spool (and more importantly your catching fish) then stick with it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carver3689 View Post
    1. make sure you buy your first multiplier with a level wind...once you are comfortable with it you can then "do it yourself" by either buying one without a level wind or simply taking the level wind off
    I can't agree with this at all, a level wind is way more trouble than it's worth. I think some people new to multi's find the idea of laying the line by hand daunting, a few hours laying the line by hand and you will wonder why you even considered a levelwind!

    p.s - in answer to the origional question...no a multi will not always outcast a f-spool, the type of reel is obselete compared to the ability of the caster! Just use whatever you are comfortable with, personally I love multi's and doubt I will ever go back to f-spools for shore fishing other than spinning but that is only my opinion
    Last edited by lewis888; 02-01-2007 at 01:41.

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    WSF Hardcore Poster Carver3689's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by lewis888 View Post
    I can't agree with this at all, a level wind is way more trouble than it's worth. I think some people new to multi's find the idea of laying the line by hand daunting, a few hours laying the line by hand and you will wonder why you even considered a levelwind!

    p.s - in answer to the origional question...no a multi will not always outcast a f-spool, the type of reel is obselete compared to the ability of the caster! Just use whatever you are comfortable with, personally I love multi's and doubt I will ever go back to f-spools for shore fishing other than spinning but that is only my opinion
    personal opinion mate!...in my opinion, new users would rather conquer the casting technique first then move on to lengthening thier casts...aswell as this, most people prefer multipliers with levelwinds in the dark (night fishing)

    i can obviously see where your going though (in a way i totally agree with you)-what is the point in level winds? a question that needs a lot of explaining!, but in connection to this, i often fish at night time and think to myself "i wish i had a level wind on this " ...dont know why...laziness? just a thought

    tight lines!
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