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    pendulum problems

    Right teaching myself to pendulum, a bad idea I know, but am getting the feel for it.

    Like a golf swing where you have thoughts during a cast, what thoughts do people use to get the feel and timing right. My timing is slightly out still, as most casts feel like the lead is leading the rod tip round rather than my arms. I still get the lead off straight, but obviously the rod isn't compressed properly when it happens so I lose distance. I think I get too armsy, what do other people think. Could it be that I'm putting too much power in too early and the rod is compressed and locking too early. Or could it be that the daiwa supercast pm I'm using is too soft, or too stiff?

    Oncd the lead is at the top of the , before you unwind, basically what thoughs for the rod path. I'm thinking just unwind the body raising the left arm so the rod is in an OTG position and then hit it....is that about right? I can OTG well, so that part of the technique is right, it's just getting the rod from where the lead is weightless when is at its highest, to the OTG position that isn't yet right.

    All hints and tips greatfully recieved from those who can, and I know i need proper instruction but if I can teach myself golf and get to a 5 handicap, I can teach myseld a pendulum lol! Or should I and get an instructor!?!

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    Not quite the same as golf...saw the head off a golf club, attach it to the shaft again with a metre of strong mono, and then try and hit the ball!!

    It is important not to allow the lead to move outside the arc of the tip of the rod before the rod is fully loaded/compressed. My definition of loaded is when the tip is pulled to 90 degrees with respect to the butt section of the rod.

    Only at this point should the lead "fly out", with good timing this is where the butt is turned over about a point halfway between your two hands, and the lead will travel round outside the rod tip, and will accelerate using centrifugal force.

    I use a two dimensional cast to demonstrate this effect, and have demonstrated the effect for the last four years at the NEC. If you want to see this working, that is where i'll be on the 16/17/18th march. I posted how to get in to the lake free somewhere on this site.

    Remember that this cast is slow, and should be syrup-smooth. A stream of wayward casts and/or crackoffs indicate going into the cast too fast. Remember I am describing a learning process, if you get this right you should be able to reach 120 yards with one hand/arm and a 4/5oz lead, providing your rod is not over-stiff - what you describe sounds OK, Paul Kerry has probably done 240+ yards with one!!

    Hope this helps,

    philtherod


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  3. #3
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    Great thanks,

    I went back practising this afternoon on the big lake I go to for casting practise, got in half an hour before the wind got too strong. I used my new Fox Challenger instead of the supercast...its a stiffer rod with quicker recovery and everything seemed to work much nicer. Whether that be the rod, me or both I don't know but it came together thankfully.

    I know pendulum and golf aren;t the same as such, but it's still a timing thing and relaxing and rythmn and controlling yourself not to whack at it...application of power etc.

    As you say it's a complete learning and waiting game, and there will always be something to improve on, but I want to get it down to useable within the next month before the spring run starts so I can start building distance and have it in my bow. Mind you still love my OTG casts.

    Hopefully getting a lesson in a few weeks too so that should get me on the right track then it's just practise practise practise. Good job I Don't live too close to the coast so I don't have the cast or fish debate yet!!

    Andy

    I think I will

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