uptide/downtide????

[martblue]

Hi without trying to sound to stupid. can someone explain these to me i am new to boat fishing and hace no idea about uptiding or down tiding, why is gear different does it make any difference!! Or am i getting to technical..
thanks for any help

[Rob]

Uptiding

Anchoring the boat in shallow water and casting in the direction of the anchor and letting out a bow of line. Because you are using small grip leads (6oz or more) and using the tide to keep the line tight, you can use light gear.

Downtiding

Dropping your gear straight down instead of casting. Because the tide will pull the weight and line you need much bigger weights (A pound or more) and therefore much beefier gear. Also because no casting is involved you only need a short rod. You would normally do this in deeper water, like wrecking.

That help?

[Torpedo Baz]

Hi Martblue

Downtide is your traditional drop it over the side type of fishing mostly first experienced on charter boats by pleasure anglers - requires short rod (6-7ft) and a large capacity reel (abu 7000 size) to fish at depth.

Uptiding is usually performed from smaller boats at anchor in estuaries where the bait is cast away from the boat - requiring slightly longer rod (9-10ft) and a decent casting multiplier (abu 6000 size).

Rigs for each type of fishing are very different uptiding often requiring grip-leads to hold the bait on the bottom in strong tidal movement (downtiding simply requires a weight to drop your rig to fishing depth asap)

I'm sure the more expert might find this description a little simplistic or even get offended - TBH I've only ever downtided myself - and love it.

[martblue]

thats great lads, these tech terms can baffle a newbie..lol..the simple explanations are perfect.. Does trolling come under downtiding..or is that more like up tiding..lol..

[Cascars]

thats great lads, these tech terms can baffle a newbie..lol..the simple explanations are perfect.. Does trolling come under downtiding..or is that more like up tiding..lol..

Neither . Trolling is when you tow a lure or possibly a livebait at a very slow speed behind the boat.

[diamond dave]

I gonna confuse this even more by saying, you can use an uptider for downtiding as well as uptiding, but a downtide rod is only good for downtiding

[wilba]

well i was downtideing last week with a penn griller thriller and supermag 3oz plain lead and was having great fun in 50-60mts of water

[dai56]

well i was downtideing last week with a penn griller thriller and supermag 3oz plain lead and was having great fun in 50-60mts of water

sounds like you were uptiding downtide cast downtide let line out so you have loop of line out behind the lead handy when everyone else arguing over front of boat
dai

[martblue]

jesus i thought i was confussed to start with..i think fishing seems to get overcomplicated sometimes..my checklist..rod, reel, hooks, weight, bait, **** it...some luck would be good too..lol...

[groomyd]

My two penneth!

Everyone used to downtide when boat fishing but then it was noticed that people at the back of the boat tended to catch more than those at the sides, especially those nearer the front.

This was paticularly true in relatively shallow water.

Why? Becasue the boat and its movements can scare the fish. Those dropping over the side are fishing under or nearly under it especially when the tide is not taking the lead a long way away.

So people started to cast away from the boat and this became refined as up tiding. You need enough lead to grip the bottom so that the bow of line that you let out does not quite rip it out of the bottom with the pull of the tide against your line.

When the fish takes it should dislodge the lead and then hook itself/prick itself as the lead gets dragged down the tide.

Bites therefore tend to be knocks followed by slack line followed by the line tightening again.......................

Often those atthe back ofthe boat may opt to down tide while those at the sides may opt to uptide.................