birdnest with pen 535gs

**mike1** · 12-05-2007, 16:34

hi everyone ,

just had a new multi after using f.s all the time , i tried to read all the threads

about the way handelling this kind of real and my first casts for 50 meters went

good .

the prublem began when i tried to cast for a long distance , one out of three casts

ended with a nasty birdnest .

can i have some tips how to avoied this .

thanks ,

michael

**marcus1975** · 12-05-2007, 16:43

when in the cast are you getting the birdsnests ?

**Geoff_Jubb** · 12-05-2007, 16:57

When I first started using a 535gs ages ago it would birds nest quite often, and after a while I found out you need to engage the centrifugal brakes as they come locked in. You slide them out to the end of their 'spindle' to enable them. Could this be the problem? Sorry if I'm teaching you to suck eggs.

**billfish** · 12-05-2007, 17:15

Originally Posted by Geoff_Jubb

When I first started using a 535gs ages ago it would birds nest quite often, and after a while I found out you need to engage the centrifugal brakes as they come locked in. You slide them out to the end of their 'spindle' to enable them. Could this be the problem? Sorry if I'm teaching you to suck eggs.

that sounds like the prob 2 me m8t

take the side plate off & check that the brakes r free 2 run 2 the end of the pins.

**mike1** · 12-05-2007, 22:45

thanks, the brakes are in the end of the pins , i did that before my first cast

the birds happens after the sinker hits the water .

**David N** · 12-05-2007, 23:04

Put your thumb on the spool to slow it as soon as it hits the water. Then release it enough to let the ine slip out to let the lead get to the bottom without over running.

**i hate whiting** · 12-05-2007, 23:10

yeah. watch/listen for the lead to hit the water and put your thumb on the spool as soon as this happens. once you stop the spool, take your thumb off and let the lead sink to the bottom.

**donkeydawe** · 14-05-2007, 01:19

have you tried tightening up your brakes? (silver knob behind your handle) as you get used to casting gradually loosen it.

another thing is if your spool has too much line on this will cause the spool to spin a lot faster. its not like a fs which needs to be loaded to the spool lip.

**dabcatcher** · 14-05-2007, 10:24

Originally Posted by donkeydawe

have you tried tightening up your brakes? (silver knob behind your handle) as you get used to casting gradually loosen it.

another thing is if your spool has too much line on this will cause the spool to spin a lot faster. its not like a fs which needs to be loaded to the spool lip.

the silver knob behind the handle is not the brakes.

that is used to adjust the end float on the spool. tightening this puts pressure on the spindle and too much will kill your cast. set this to give the tiniest of movement on the spool then leave it alone.

put 90 grade geaerbox oil in the bearings. the centrifugal breaks on the spool are to calm the initial surge of the cast. once the lead is in mid fight they stop working. a thicker oil in the bearings will actually calm the reel during the cast.

**Rob** · 14-05-2007, 11:19

If it birdies at the end of the cast and it isn't down to your timing hitting the spool with your thumb, it is a dabcatcher suggested. Get a small metal container or an old spoon, fill with motor oil, drop your bearings into it, heat the spoon from beneath with a lighter and when you see bubbles emerging from the bearings, you know the oils has run into them forcing the air out.

That will tame it. As posted, brakes are next to useless mid cast onwards, there isn't enough centrifugal force generated to make them work effectively, but the oil will make a huge difference.