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advice on very rought ground

Discussion in 'General Sea Angling Discussion' started by alexangler, Mar 19, 2012.

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    I live in the south coast right on the sea front. I usually fish the clean ground beaches in brighton, but this year am determined to go east of the marina and fish the really rough rocky ground.

    I need advice on how to fish the rough stuff, it's all rocks and snaggs but teh rocks hold alof of prawn and crab etc so seems the ideal ground to fish some large mackie filliets or big worm baits... But all i can see is me losing all my line & tackle ? Is it as easy as a rotton bottom ?

    Maybe a pully rig ? Could I free line big baits would they be heavy enough to sink ?

    Ahhhhh anyone help me out ?
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    Do you see others fishing there?, might be wise to go and have a chat with them,if not use rotten bottoms, finer hooks like nordic bends will straighten out of snags plus weaker than mainline hook snoods will help you losing your rigs, pulleys only work if you actually have a fish on,
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    Not many others seem to fish there I believe a few have.....
    I guess Ill have to give it a go but once you go light on the sinker and the snood what have you got left of your rig if both come off ?
    I was thinking of literally having a hook on the end of my leader and using shot to weight the line to try and keep it down ? What do you reckon ?
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    If you do that you will end up snapping your rod m8, getting snagged breaks a lot of rods so going light in the areas I said earlier will help,if you are after Congers then light won't work as you will need to bully them from the snags,why not fish beside the snags,look at low tide to see what's there,
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    would defo b worth going down to the area at low tide with your camera and takeing pics or film of the area at low, so u know whats underneath the waterline at high.
    as meanstreak stated you have to fish smart when rough ground angling, loseing a lead is ok when fishing rough ground , prefer to lose a lead than get snagged up with an angry conger on the end.
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    its really simple to fish the rough.

    go in the tackle forum and ask there how to use a rottem bottom. someone there might be able to put up pics or a diagram for you [i cant].

    you have to be prepared to loose a lead a chuck at times.
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    I use a few different versions of the running paternoster which I find one of the best methods for rotten bottom. Have a look here for a few ideas. One of the reasons I like the running paternoster is that the hook is directly attached to the mainline/shockleader and not to the lead. If you have a fish on and the lead snaggs the fish will not be tethered to the snag
    You need to ask yourself is it worth all the hassle you are going to have to fish this mark, how likely are you to be able to get fish out of it and what you hope to catch. Alternatively you could try a float or a bit of spinning, neither of which are totally snag free but might give you some indication of what is there. If you just want conger and huss you will have to go the heavy tackle way an accept that you will lose loads of gear even if you are using the rotten bottom systems. They are only any good if it is just the lead snagging.

    Generally short hooklengths and single hooks will also help minimise snagging.
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    There are many that fish along there mate and some good advice given, with rough ground there will be losses but it also holds fish so there is always a trade off. Have you thought about lures at all? Worth taking a look in the lure forum :thumbs:

    Given your location have you thought about a session with Fishyrob? He certainly doesn't need me promoting him, but actually a session might just give you a good insight into the area and how it fishes.
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    Cheers peeps I did indeed think of fishy rob and have pM'd him but his services are a bit sort after and im guessing a two man local trip aint gonna be high on his priorities (which I understand) im thinking that bass are going to be in and amongst the rocks looking for there natural bait..... Crabs prawns etc....
    Thanks for the link on the rigs

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