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Easing tight spigots

Discussion in 'Tackle & Equipment Discussions' started by wooky114, Oct 26, 2011.

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    Your rod tight to put together or hard to get apart? The spigot need easing as bit for better fit...

    Try this, from the Century Site:

    http://www.century.gb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=522

    We receive inquiries about servicing joints - particularly reverse fit joints that we primarily use on our sea rods. Every new rod is issued with care leaflet but we understand these are not always passed on if the rod is subsequently sold or the guidance is sometimes misplaced.

    Century joints are ground to fine tolerances and don't like sand, grit or gunge interfering with their fit!

    At Century - we use a specialized form of PTFE to lubricate the joints when new and this application should last a good while. However we recognize that we also recommend joints should be kept clean and inevitably this means a trip to a bowl of warm soapy water. This can reduce the effectiveness of PTFE lubricant over time and multiple cleaning sessions - so we are advising owners to consider a relatively low cost way of keeping joints clean and lubricated.

    Aside from cleaning both the male and female sections with warm soapy water – we have found a bottle brush available from most high street supermarkets is very effective in cleaning out the female section of the joint.

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    It is very important to clean out sand, grit and detritus from this area to guarantee a good fit and to prevent accelerated wear and tear.

    When both joints are clean and dry – we recommend a lubricant such as 3- In -One PTFE. This is available from good hardware stores or in UK – stores such as Halfords and is not expensive but very effective. Spray the lubricant over the male spigot and down the female section of the joint. Re engage the sections and carefully work them back to their natural position with a gap of no more than 2cm.

    Clean the residue off with a lint free cloth and repeat the procedure whenever the joint is cleaned with soapy water.

    This procedure will extend the life of the joint and keep it trouble free.

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    or try this:

    If the spigot is that tight, try this tip which I got from another forum member:

    'Joint Control':

    Ok, sooner or later you’ll get a sticky joint. Zziplex and Century blanks like many others suffer, and you’ll end up with a rod that doesn’t fit together right. It’ll happen just at the wrong time of course and probably ruin a days casting.

    The cure is to not have to cure it. Let me explain.

    Prevention is better than a cure, so lets prepare a joint for a rod, leaving a 1/2″ spacing.

    If your rod fits together perfectly, and most do, skip this, but if its really tight, or doesn’t quite go to that 1/2″ spacing try this.

    Do NOT use abrasives !!!, instead try a thin smear of grease on the male joint and a little inside the female joint too. Place the pieces together slowly and rotate the joints as you go.

    Do this a little at a time and do NOT push the rod together !, you’ll regret it if you do.

    Do 1″ of joint at a time, and slowly but surely get the joints to match. It can take up to 1 hour to get it right. Between sessions of turning, clean both joints inside and out with clean spirit and you’ll get black grease being removed. The grease is a lubricant and the carbon on both joints will mate. Its similar to pattern matching hand fitted expensive shotgun parts, using grease instead of smoke.

    When its all done, give it a final clean, and either leave on a very thin film of grease and I mean thin, or degrease it with washing up liquid. The end result is a rod that fits, and you’ll have more confidence using a rod with correctly fitted joints.

    Well worth trying before attacking a blank with an abrasive of any kind :thumbs:

    Once you're happy with the fit, clean off the spigot with meths/white spirit, as previuosly suggested and keep it lubricated with a pencil lead....

    No WD40, or abrasives of any type required :thumbs:

    If anyone else has any hints/tips re the the easing of spigots - preferably ones that don't involve using wet and dry or similar abrasives as it's very easy to do many years worth of wear to the spigot in a couple of minutes if you're not careful, feel free to add em...
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    Wooky, great advice, but are you sure that's the right 3 in 1? Just that's the oil with a little ptfe in it...surely oil on a joint is a bad bad idea!?!

    Do they mean the 3 in 1 dry PTFE lubricant instead? Asking as I am having huge problems getting my cccld, the older without the metal collar, to mate properly....still got 2.5cm of the sprigot showing.

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    Nope, that is the right spray. It used to be on the Century site itself until they closed their forum. It is the stuff I use on my TTLD when it gets a bit stiff and it works perfectly, a quick spray and the spigot is good for another few months use.
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    Its the right stuff, been using it on my cme's for a while now and also spray up the reel seats to stop them sticking and falling to bits (typical of century seats so i hear)
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    Just done as advised with my sticking Zzippy M4 Hi-flex...worked a treat!
    Great advice, thanks very much.
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    An old fishing friend sadly no longer with us passed on a really good tip.... before pushing the 2 peices together run the male end through your hair...the grease in you hair will make taking the two rod lengths apart again very easy....I use this trick all the time RIP Eric
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    I take it that you are "folically challenged" yourself Ross? lol
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    Not at all mate I have a full head of hair, doesn't look like it's going anywhere anytime soon either (touch hairy wood) ;)
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    An old tip I had was to give the male end a light rub with a candle, although that was when brass ferrules were the norm. For carbon type rods you can use a light dusting of powdered french chalk, used to dust chalk lines builders and the like use, or nick the wifes talc.
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    Hi i have read all the replys and sound good BUT a great rod man had just bought a Zziplex second hand not a cheep one and hes on the whitby site and this one he rang a lad that deals in them and he could not get it to fit at all and he was told to put it in his house were it was warm and turn the rod upside down tip end down and but down he left it for around 4 hours and it fit in a bit only a few "is so he left it all night next day it fit great so give it a try he said DONT rub it down with wet an dry or any thing els and it was said of a Zziplex rod builder so just give it a go as it wont cost you any thing to try this hope it helps yours paul.
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    a top rod builder once showed me to use spray grease. spray on and twist both halfs of your rod in opposite directions, keep working until joints fit perfectly. then wipe off grease. want to know if it works??? used my pair of conoflex highlanders for 12 years after and i do alot of fishing without ever having a problem. just make sure you wipe all the grease off so it does not attract sand and grit
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    I've always use candle wax but heard sex wax works too(what surfer use on their boards).
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    candle wax is great when the spigot becomes worn !!!! not to sure about the sex wax though:clap2:
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    the spigot on my M4 Evo has become really tight.

    only the first 1" or so goes in. Ive had the rod about three years now from new.

    the thing is it didnt used to be like that, its only the past 8-10 months.

    I clean my rods down with soapy water after every use, including the male and female spigot.

    i read this sticky a while back and thought id buy some 3 in 1 PTFE lubricant.

    ive just tried it, it seemed to work a little, easing it and twisting. its hardly any further in...and now i cant get the rod apart!! :uhuh:

    help please!!

    any suggestions on what to do or whats happened to my rod?
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    Im sorted now, ive got it apart! :clap2:

    i think ive found the problem too....

    seems to be a build up of carbon 'dust' in the female section!

    the ptfe lube seems to have lifted it - the spigots have always been cleaned down after use, but after pushing a cloth down...it came out black, now the spigots fit perfect!! yipppeeee :lol:

    someone might find this post useful now :thumbs:
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    Ive found over the years when your rod is stuck and wont come apart simply remove the butt cap .it takes all the suction out and releases
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    I have a small hole in the butt cap to prevent that suction happening

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