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VerticalScope Inc Aquires WorldSeaFishing

Discussion in 'General Sea Angling Discussion' started by Mike Thrussell Jr, Feb 9, 2016.

  1. dutchmaan

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    All the best Mike, good to chat with you the past couple of years.
    You never know i may meet you one day in your old home town or across the bridge if you are visiting.
    All the best for the future and many thanks for obviously the best fishing forum in the UK.

    Welcome Phillip.
     
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  3. davemc

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    Mike Thanks you done an awesome job & good luck in your new ventures , welcome Phillip
     
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    All the best Mike and welcome Phillip ;).
     
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    Change is always interesting.
    Thanks for your approachability and continuous dedication to the site, Mike! I look forward too seeing some reports from you!
    Phil! Welcome, mate! I hope you don't find this ridiculous bunch of anglers too much to handle; I'm sure you'll be fine! ;)

    Have a blast!
    Stu.
     
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    wow ,had no idea ,17 years started at school ,..hats off Mike,..mostly for putting up with us,..
    will miss you no doubt.
    And welcome to the new owners,....are you sure about this lol,..its a madhouse at times.
     
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  7. Browny81

    Browny81 C.T.A.C

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  8. Browny81

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    Welcome, Philip!

    Now, about that awful, annoying scrolling gif adverts on the right hand side of my peripheral. As a laptop user, I personally find it distracts and detracts the reading content of the forum by taking up a quarter of the viewing page. This would be the first thing I'd like to see improved.

    Here is a link to another forum, I am merely flagging this up so you can see the difference of how much better a viewing page would look without an awful scrolling ad' in place.

    Main forum: http://www.stripersonline.com/surftalk/forum/8-main-forum/

    Once inside a thread: http://www.stripersonline.com/surftalk/topic/613153-newbies-look-here/

    For me personally, I think it gives priority to the forum users rather than the advertisers. I find too many scripts running does slow the forum experience. Just saying, like! :D
     
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  9. Bazzer2k8

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    If the site was bought by a local fishing shop/business I would tend to agree. Anyway I dont want to be negative. We will have to wait and see, though I am interested to learn how VS (Canada) will take the site forward with the users best interests in mind :)
     
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  10. Pelamid

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    Good luck Mike for your future projects, you certainly showed tenacity during your WSF years!

    Don't know how you kept a level head during the "wildcard" sagas. You must have a peculiar sense of humor to have survived those and pull your forum through!

    Now go get some fish! :)
     
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    Only joined a short while ago. This is a great forum. Thankyou for it. Best Wishes for the success of your future plans Mike.

    Welcome Pillip. Hope your plans for the forum keep it as successful and enjoyable.
     
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    Wouldn't hold out much hope


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    Shame it couldn't have been kept in the UK.
     
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    Its Commonwealth anyway. :):)
     
  14. Leon Roskilly

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    Hmmm!

    Last year struggling Torstar became the majority shareholder of VerticalScope.

    Not long after Torstar had sold Halequin to Rupert Murdoch.

    If the same happens to WSF, I'm out of here (I don't have SKY and refuse to buy The Times)

    LOL

    Thanks for all the fish Mike, and welcome Philip :)
     
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    Well said!

    We can forget the fact that profit will be made and tax paid overseas
     
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    Thanks for everything Mike. Enjoy your time on the beach/afloat. Welcome Philip can be crazy at times. All the best martin.
     
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    All the best mikey. poach..:(
     
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  18. Mike Thrussell Jr

    Mike Thrussell Jr One Life - Fish it!

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    Looks good, only problem with that is that when I was running the forum a change like that would have slashed the advertising revenue by 2/3rds - that kind of shift would have brought income down to below the costs of the servers, onsite and off site backup system etc. and then it would have been a slippery slope.

    Like everything in business, the bigger players can command a larger slice of advertising revenue and each banner theoretically pays out more for those in the higher, more exclusive ad exchanges so you can use less. But a standalone angling site in the UK was unlikely to ever get into those networks as we're talking traffic numbers at least 10 times that of WSF to get into them, which is unrealistic and unsustainable in the UK. An Experian report a few years ago into sport websites put WSF as the number one angling site in the UK with a commanding market share of 34% of all angling related traffic so you can guess the type of traffic numbers we're talking!

    The WSF shop was the idea that would solve that and my plan (long term) was to remove advertising completely with the shop paying for the site to run. Problem with that of course is again, smaller operations cannot buy at the pricing that the bigger boys can so our prices were always slightly more expensive with worse profit margins than the bigger players could muster. So even though it made money, it was never going to be enough to fully realise that dream.

    Now the WSF site is part of a much larger organisation and is no longer an "independent site" in terms of ownership, things will be different but on the ground and how you guys use the site, not a lot will change. I'm sure as Phil and his team get settled in they will make the right decisions for the forum going forward. It would be unfair to judge or pre-judge what their plans are for the forum, they've been running it for a few hours, the site has been migrated but their advertising has not yet. They're forum specialists and I have every confidence they'll do a cracking job of running this place.

    With regard to keeping it in the UK...

    WSF has been the subject of takeover offers 6 times in it's entire history. VS approached me a few years ago, but the timing was not right, but we kept in touch. There was another offer 2 years ago from an American company, it was wrong, I rejected it. There have been 4 offers from UK based concerns, none of their long term plans were sustainable and 3 of those offers would have seen WSF close within 2 years such was the business model they had for it. The other offer would have seen WSF change beyond all recognition and I wasn't willing to do that.

    For the long term future of WSF a new owner had to be a specialist in the field of running forums. VerticalScope is the world leader in running managed forums, and has the track record to prove it with some of the largest angling forums in the world. VerticalScope is the perfect fit, the fact is, no UK organisation has the resources and the ability to take on the WSF Forum, and any that do, are not interested in running a fishing website.

    The WSF website is approaching its 18th year. It was started with £30 and for a long time I was financing it out of my own pocket (which were not very deep). It has taken a long time, a hell of a lot of work and often 18 to 20 hour days to nurture this forum into something worthwhile. It's taken an incredible toll on my fishing, my personal and social life but it was worth it, as I believe (and hope) we've created something good here that will last for a long time. Given the blood, sweat and tears that has gone into this place I wasn't going to just toss it off to any random for a quick buck. That's not my style, never has been, never will be! If it was ever sold it would go to a good custodian that had the resources and the ability to take the site forward, which is where VerticalScope fit perfectly.
     
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  19. marc portch

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    I'm sure I'm not alone but without WSF I very much doubt I would have started sea fishing, so many thanks for that and all you've created Mike.

    All the best for whatever you do next... I'd imagine a few overseas trips might be on the cards. :cool:

    Welcome Philip. :)
     
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    Good luck and best wishes for the future Mike and thanks for allowing me me to be a member of the worlds BEST sea angling community.

    To Vertical Scope and to "Philip One Name", I also say good luck and best wishes for the future and remind you that us Brits usually tolerate a lot of carp before complaining but don't take our tolerance for submissiveness. It took a long time and great effort for Mike to build up and maintain his business. However, as with many other businesses no longer around, it doesn't take a lot to loose all that customer loyalty.
    Two requirement please.
    1 Server maintenance during low use hours (24.00 to 05.00) not in normal hours
    2. Don't set thing up so that every time I (we) come on line we get the pop up message that our "Ad Blocker App is switched on for this Site" so making continued membership conditional on receiving loads of unwanted advertisement.

    As I said, thanks Mike and welcome Vertical Scope

    Keith M
     
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    WSF will always be free to use.

    WSF will always be free to use.

    I personally was not involved in the sale of the site. I was introduced at the ladder portion of the deal. I don't have a specific answer to this.

    Yup, seaangling.org.uk.

    I second this.

    I encourage you to keep me on notice. If you have suggestions for making the site better share this info with me please.
    -Philip
     
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