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lure Fishing With Mono or braid

Discussion in 'Freshwater & Saltwater Lure Fishing.' started by Graham Hill, Jan 1, 2010.

  1. Ben_Pratt

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    Hi Paul.
    A mono or fluro leader of 50 cm to 1m of 20lb would be the way to go. You can tie the leader direct to your line or use a small good quality bb swivel.

    The Mono/fluro thing is up to you but at the end of the day it will probably not make a world of difference. There may be a slight advantage using fluro on a very bright day in clear water so if you want to buy one spool for the job probably easier to go with the fluro.
     
  2. Portslade Pollack

    Portslade Pollack Now in Littlehampton

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    Being a fan of mono I was wondering what ones people use as I'm still trying to find one I really like. Ultima power pro is my favourite so far but its still a bit too stretchy to be ideal, I've got Trilene on at the moment but that really is stretchy (should have known better but I grabbed it from a shop in an emergency!!!). I'm thinking about trying Ultima power steel next as that seems to tick the right boxes on paper. Any other recommendations for a lower stretch, abrasion resistant, modern mono would be welcome.
     
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    Ta Ben
    Now off at a tangent a bit, I've got a holiday coming up in Mexico (April), I've brought a wide selection of lures etc. Should I use a wire trace or will a mono leader do? Again if so, what breaking strain etc? I'm just don’t know about Barracuda's or anything else with proper teeth.
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  4. Manny Calavera

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    ive been using grauville teklon gold, 0.22, 6.5kg B.S. (only one i tried)
    some stretch, but if you dont want stretch then why not use braid???
    i find the stretch adds a accelaration to the lure, this seems to give more lure motion for less distance travelled... leading maybe to more lure activity per cast... if you see what i mean.
    i started with braid in march, tried mono after mark333 and his braid or mono thread end sept... fancied something new in my fishing, had to re-learn how to work all of my lures...
    its my prefered line now...
     
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    I've used Diawa Sensor 8-15lb for spinning&baitfishing for the past dozen yrs.Exellent line good abraision resistance&supple enough.Best of all it's good value unlike some of the "fashionable" lines the cost an arm&a leg:roll1::roll1::roll1:
     
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    Nice.

    I recall that there is a lot of Barracuda in Mexican Waters, and some sizable ones to! I think most of the water will be pretty clear, so its a bit of a trade off. A mono leader will mean more bites but the chance of losing the fish will be higher. I had a similar situation last year in Aus. Cast out with a mono leader, hooked up, lost fish. Wire trace on, no bites. Probably best to take both, because you will probably be able to get away with the wire at first and last light. Also take a 40 - 80 lb good quality leader mono, grouper and jacks have rough plates in side there mouths and gives you a chance with the toothy ones. Good tip if you get a toothy on mono is to keep the rod always pointing at the fish to give it less of a side angle! Polaroid sunglasses also needed! And I would make sure you have a few large yo zuri crystal minnows and large poppers!

    Have a good one!:drunk:

    Ben
     
  7. STUART WHITING

    STUART WHITING TOPWATER BASS LURE ADDICT

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    Well after reading this thread it appears that mono certainly has a place in lure fishing over braid, it obviously ticks the boxes as far as being more natural in the tide, also being more invisible in clear shallow water, ideal for surface lures giving the lures more of a natural action and doesn't collect sand particles on the line like braid can which in turn then screws the guides up on rods.
    As most of my lure fishing is in very shallow water I tend to only specialise in hard surface lures and now seriously need to give the use of mono some serious thought, like nick Phillips states there are some very good mono's out there and with this also in mind can afford to have plenty of spools of the stuff ;)
     
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    I alternate between braid and mono on a light lrf rod at my bass & mullet mark just for the difference in general fishing experience - casting,playing fish etc.I like the directness and efficiency of braid,however it is a quiet estuary mark and I find the friction noise of the braid is considerable when playing a fish.I use a headcam to record some of the action to watch back at home and the recorded noise is surprising.
     
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    STUART WHITING TOPWATER BASS LURE ADDICT

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    For the last couple of years I've been using power pro braid and although the braid is good and has its uses I do very much still like to use quality mono,

    With mono, I like the fact that it works with the tide rather than against it,
    With the right reel and providing the mono is loaded correctly to the max it's still quite capable of reaching similar distances with lures,

    Mono also doesn't collect sand particles and salt like braid can,

    I like the fact that mono has a light cushioning effort when playing fish and doesn't run the risk of hook pulls like braid can at times,

    Because of the cushioning effect it works very well with various poppers and other surface lures because it gives a momentary pause when working the lure.

    This year I'm gonna be predominantly using decent mono and like using some of the ultima range,
    At present I'll be using the carp power flouro coated in 14 lb test,

    Although this line is a sinking line and I'll be using surface lures the idea is so that the line will generally only sink just below the surface whilst working the lures but with a floating mono it could collect surface scum / film which dirty's the line and which could then snake across the surface allowing any cautious fish to detect it easier,

    If the line is just submerged it's then got less chance of collecting any surface film etc.

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    Well into mono myself at the moment, been testing out with lures on my local river before the main event.
    Trabucco xts surfcast (chesil bait and tackle) is good stuff, bright orange means i can see it and it doesn't seem to put the trout off.
    Got some varivas salt line as well to try.both types nice and smooth and supple.
    Had a couple of nice bass last year on Berkeley big game 8 lb.
    Am finding super fine braids not easy to see and tie on poor light hence the switch to mono. Also not bumping off as many fish in strong current.
     
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    Any updated opinions on this topic?
     
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    I like braid but I could fish with with modern mono for lure fishing quite easily
     
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    for salt , i use fused (fireline ultra 8) or coated braid (momoï ryujin) : doesn't pick up salt-debris-water-etc.
    the coated is perfect for surface lures ( and sub to 1.5/2 m with hard lures) , it lays on the water
    the fused is top for Bottom fishing with soft ( cut the water , very sensitive )
    and sometimes , when the sea is like a lake/gin clear , i use nylon : sufix super 21
     
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    I alternate between line types (one spare spool mono, one braid) Ultimately dependent on the situation at hand.

    For a typical lure romp on some rocks or the beach simply use mono, being that there is no for need for far more line on the spool or greater power over the fish when you have a 5lb pollack on and the cons of braid add unnecessary bother... Most situations in the U.K don’t require braid, I’ve done perfectly fine with mono and if you have a balanced setup the sensitivity of both is similar.

    However if you’re going for bluefish on a kayak in the Mediterranean the control, sensitivity and strength braid possesses instantly gives you the upper hand over mono. It’s ultimately a case of matching your situation but for most sea fishing applications over here mono is more practical and reliable than braid.
     
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    What breaking strain mono do you use?
     
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    Depends,
    For lrf/light spinning I use 5-6lb mono, 10-12lb for heavier spinning or float fishing, Berkeley trilene works fine most of the time.
     
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    I’m now mono only for both river and sea, just seems less wind knots and i can actually see the stuff!
    Trabucco XP’s surf line is my current favourite.
     
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    It's not the line that catches the fish or any type of lure right place right time we were catching bass on mono along time before braid was ever herd of and I mean a long time so there's your answer mono will always be king it's like everything else someone invents something and lookout we all go out and buy it someone has a bit of success and bingo it the best thing ever just use what you are happy with I now use both :happy:
     
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    'With mono, I like the fact that it works with the tide rather than against it'
    A few people have said something similar in this thread, but I'm not sure what is meant by it.
    Are we talking about mono and braid in equal diameters? I understand thinner braid will cut through the tide better, but if the diameters are the same, say 8lb mono, 20lb braid, why will the mono 'work with the tide'. What characteristics make it do this- mono's stiffness, compared to braid?
    I respect people's opinions, and I'm sure there is still a place for mono, but it would be nice to know the science, or at least a theory, as why one is better than the other.
    Obviously this is an old thread, and things have moved on in the world of mono and braid, but since I got a decent reel and rod, and learned to manage my braid tangles are a thing of the past.I had to use a spare spool of mono a while back and hated it, losing two fish within seconds of hooking them, it felt like the elastic on a roach pole. Just what you're used to I guess, I took my old salmon spinning rod (an old fibatube blank) out in the kayak and it felt like a stick of rubber, yet in its day....
     
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    true : mono gives a more natural movement to the lure only because of the stretch , you have less contact with your lure (that gives the fish greater opportunity to suck your bait deeper) , i use it only UP STREAM
    but , you can achieve this with braid if you reel in slowly , just hold contact with your lure (feel it in the rod tip , it doesn't need to bend )

    when i fish the drift method (that's where i see a big difference in my catch rate) i have better result with the braid : more buoyant than mono , doesn't take water up so the line lay on the surface without draging too much , lying just a few feet above the lure ( doesn't scare the fish) : the contact/feel is "direct"
    with fluoro or mono (when has been soaked 20 minutes) , it sinks and create a great loop under the surface so it is further down than the lure and scares the fish bumping into it , when trying to reduce the "loop" you drag the line in the current... again , fish is away !
     

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