Where are the mackerel
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Where are the mackerel

Discussion in 'Boat Angling / Angling Afloat' started by Topefisher2020, Jul 18, 2020.

  1. Topefisher2020

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    Fished oxwhich bay yesterday And had about 60/70 but in about 4 hours between 3 of us a few years ago that would of been 200/300 easy what’s happening to them
     
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    Maybe you have answered your own question.
     
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    Super trawlers hammered them!
     
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  4. Topefisher2020

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    60/70 between 3 that defo don’t answer my question come on now I’m asking an honest question why give cocky answers?
     
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    That makes sense cos they were mostly joeys so they must use mesh that lets the joeys threw
     
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    If you believe the 'science' they have moved North due to global warming.
    If you want a more realistic answer then look no further than relentless large scale commercial targeting.
     
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    I heard once said we would never put a dent in the stocks they were so big !! so what happened to the herrings,, like the monkey said when the train ran over its tail !! it wont be long now
     
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    the catches some of these big boats make dont even sound possible.
    they use a satalite to surround the shoals with a massive net, then hoover them out the net into the hull, they dont haul them in, sometimes they can fill the boat 3 or 4 times from 1 netfull, having to return to shore and land each fillup.
    I think, and i maybe remembering wrong,
    900 tonnes in one net...
     
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    That’s absolutely crazy they should be banned that extermination
     
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    Lots of large and small mackerel being caught up north, Duham, Northumberland, Scotland, same a couple of years ago, multiple year class macks by the bucket load, if you should wish to have a bucket full that is.
     
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    I hate it :cry:

    “When the last tree is cut down, the last fish eaten and the last stream poisoned, you will realize that you cannot eat money.”
     
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    Interesting. I have asked the question before but had no real answer. Why is it ok to fish for undersize mackerel, joeys, and use them for bait? If catching them instead of legal size ones then surely stop fishing as mackerel notoriously easily damaged if handled during return. After all if somebody was to post caught 60/70 cod mostly undersized there would be outrage. By the way @Topefisher2020 not having a go at you just wandering about the mackerel.
     
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    Regarding the "science" large catches of mackerel now being made in Faroese and Icelandic waters where they did not have them before to the extent that they two countries did not have an ICES quota for them.
     
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    yeah you got a perfect arguement but I didn’t say I took them home I was hoping for loads of big mackerel to make a chum For sharking but returned them apRt from
    A few wa my dad wanted for bbq but I get the arguement
     
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    Not just the mackerel getting scarcer, years ago quite easy in winter wrecking in the SW to catch over 20 big pollack per angler. You don't see many catches like that nowadays. Maybe the odd red letter day but its rare and how many 20lb plus pollack do you see being caught now? Cod in the SE are as rare as hens teeth, although a few small codling have showed on the wrecks but not in numbers.

    Looking on the bright side dogfish and pin whiting are abundant:whistling:
     
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    Are the sparser shoals of Mackerel that are still about in the South more temperature tolerant than the ones that have apparently moved North?
     
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    There is huge demand for fish caused by huge numbers of people. It will not change until a viable alternative is found. Or less people. Have a nice day.
     
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    The world's largest sea raper. net capacity of 6000 (yes thousand) tons.
    It's nick name is the ship of death.
    Mackerel have been listed as "eat with care" 1 step above endangered for several years.
     
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    A few Scottish boats doing it aswell! Saying that,they are foreign too lol
     
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    Sure. Cause the science must be wrong cause it doesnt fit the narrative of the day.

    afterall scientists who dedicate their lives to
    understanding and studying things that are well beyond common understanding and knowledge, who do so with zero political motivation at all, just cant be trusted compared to the guy making millions out of diverting attention elsewhere so he gets away with the very thing hes blaming someone else for.

    Better to use our well known "common sense" thats based on half truths, bias, and political motivations to blame someone else instead of listen to experts.
    Anything to detract from the reality which people dont want to admit. Afterall Its easier to point a finger at someone weve been led to hate than look in the mirror and bring about real change.

    And you call yourself a conservationist.
     
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