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alright guys as i've kind of shaken up a bit of a hornets nest on the south coast forum i thought i'd drop my idea on the general Public

more and more all i hear about is the way some of these so called Anglers Act when out fishing on our beautiful shorelines
so i came up with an idea for a Sea Anglers Code of conduct someone has said their already is one but after a bit of extensive research i can't find it

in the freshwater world We're luck to have groups such as the A.C.A Anglers Conservation Association and The S.A.C.G Specialist Anglers Conservation Group these groups along with others like the Environment Agency and the like promote Angling and try to show not only new comers to the sport but old hands who have bad habits better ways of doing things

with this in mind i have written up this rough guide it's not finished by a long shot i need your help what should be in it what shouldn't be in it how can i make this better even if it ends up as just a sticky thread on here then at least its going to reach a couple of people but if it's not bad maybe we could encourage Tackle Shops and maybe tourist information centers to print off a copy and have it on display

i don't need to hear it'll never work there'll never listen because i have heard that enough already it's not gonna stop me from finishing this thing if i have to do it on my own so be it all i'm asking for is whats missing from this these comments are true most won't listen or care but it's better to get the message across to the ones who will then not tell them anything at all

i also encourage ALL sea angling Clubs, Groups and Associations Correction ALL ANGLING Groups, Clubs Associations to get out there and teach the non Angling general public what we do and all the good that we do see about getting the local schools youth groups involved in your fishing

Ok sorry about the long winded Rate here is my idea

SEA FISHING CODE OF CONDUCT
Littering
Dropping Litter and leaving discarded line and tackle on the Shore should Never Be Done not only can Discarded Litter and Line Be Dangerous to wildlife, children and pets but also to our sport left litter increases the amounts of complaints against anglers and the sport giving those who would like to see the sport banned entirely more ammunition to do so.
when you go fishing you should always carry a couple of spare rubbish bags with you to put your rubbish into and to put any discarded litter line or tackle that you find on the shore you can then drop these in the nearest available bins or take home with you.
if you Lose Tackle i.e. Suffer a Crack off and it is possible and safe to retrieve the tackle please do so it could be worth waiting for low tide to attempt to retrieve the tackle from the water if this is not possible for you to do so let a local angler know as they may be able to do so on the next available low tide.
When disposing of line it should be either cut up into small pieces or burnt to ensure that it does not hurt wildlife at rubbish dump/land fill site that it ends up at.

Equipment

Fishing Tackle because if the varied nature of sea fishing and the wide variety of species that you can fish when fishing ensure that your tackle is suitable for the type of fishing that you are undertaking a light course fishing rod may be suitable for catching Mullet in an estuary or on a tidal river but it is no good for casting baits lures and feathers from a pier or the shore.
Lines and Shock leaders
As well as using an appropriate rod for sea fishing Lines should also be appropriate to the weights being used if these weights are being cast out then a shock leader should always be used to ensure your safety and the safety of other shore/sea users.
It is recommended that for every ounce of weight being cast that 10 pounds of weight should be added to your shock leader this means that if you are casting 5 ounces of weight then your shock leader should be a minimum of 50 pounds
Dropnets
When fishing from a Pier, Jetty or from cliffs high above the water you should employ a dropnet some Experienced Anglers will hand line up small fish but it is not wise to do so with larger fish because the line you are fishing with may snap leaving a fish hooked and attached to a large length of line which can tangle around a fish and kill it and this can become a problem for other fish and animals found at sea that will try to eat the tangled fish and become tangled themselves
Join a club sign up to a group
If you are new to sea angling you will find that books can only teach you so much the best way to learn is to go with someone who knows what they are doing a friend or family member would be ideal for this if you do not know anybody else who Sea Fishes the best thing you can do is join a club or group
You can find out about local clubs, marks to fish and best techniques to use at online websites such as World Sea Fishing
www.worldseafishing.com

Handling
When handling fish you should always wet your hands before handling fish using a wet towel would be better wearing a pair of neoprene gloves is considered even better as these will give you more grip of the fish.
Try and minimise the time the fish is out of water using a pair of forceps or T bar style disgorger to grab the hook and shake the fish off the line back into the water.
When lifting fish do not pick them up by the gill arches as they gills are vital to the fish to take oxygen from the water it is better to support them behind the pectoral fins using the length of your arm to support the body weight of the fish.
Weighing and photographing Fish
If you are going to weigh and photo your fish it is best to have your scales and camera equipment set up before hand to ensure that the fish can be weighed and photographed and returned to the water as quickly as possible keep the fish wet at all times and if at anytime it seams to be becoming distressed return it to the water for it is better that it swims away safely then you get that photo of it remember there’s always the next one which might be even bigger.
When fishing for larger fish such as Smooth hounds and tope that will fight for a long time and expended a lot of energy it is advisable to stand in the water and hold the fish gently until it recovers it’s strength enough to swim away.
Deep Hooked Fish
If a fish is deep hooked this is especially common with eels and flatfish instead of trying to remove the hook it is a much safer option to cut the line with a pair of scissors or snips as far into the fishes mouth as you can salt water can very quickly dissolve most types of hook leaving fish none the worse for the experience

Dispatching Fish
If you are taking a fish home for the freezer or the BBQ it is better to dispatch the fish a quickly and cleanly as possible using a priest to administer a hard sharp blow to the back of the head which will kill the fish instantly and cleanly leaving only nerve and muscle spasms to make the fish twitch you should then gut and clean your fish and place it into a cool box with some ice to stop the fish from spoiling
It is a bad idea and bad for the sport to leave them flapping about on the shore for everybody to see especially on a hot day when fish such as mackerel which are popular in the summer months can go off very quickly building up high levels of bacteria in their flesh which can make you quite ill.
Remember that all fish can only be taken if they are over the minimum landing size because this is different in different areas around the coast it is advised to use the NFSA National Federation of Sea Anglers minimum a copy of this can be found here http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/chesilbeach/nfsa_size_limits.htm
(in the final document i would like to included this in the back)

Personal Safety
Before going out fishing you should check the weather reports and tide tables so that you know what to expect when you get to your chosen mark.
Be aware of the tide it can rise rapidly in some places quickly cutting you off from the shore and safety when fishing in areas where the tide can cut you off be prepared to move any time as the weather can turn a sunny day into a dangerous storm rapidly and without warning.
This should also be remembered when out bait collecting tides can rise rapidly especially in low lying places such as estuaries, mud flats and salt marshes.
When fishing exposed areas such as piers, rocks, cliffs, Steep shingle Beeches and in bad weather wear a floatation suit or a lifejacket if you do end up falling in you have a must grater chance of survival.
Let someone know where your going how long you will be there for and when you will be back so Remember
WHEN YOU GO LET SOMEONE KNOW

Learn more about beech and boat safety online at
WWW.RNLI.ORG.UK
 

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Well done.

It's good to see someone doing something rather than just whingeing :)

The NFSA have some Codes of Conduct listed on their website at:

http://www.nfsa.org.uk/conserv/codes.htm

It might be worth contacting them and asking them to adopt and publish the code.

They could also help with advice and practical help, such as publicity and distribution etc.


Contact details are at: http://www.nfsa.org.uk/about/contacts.htm
 

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looks good to me well done mate:thumbs:
 

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Well done.

It's good to see someone doing something rather than just whingeing :)

The NFSA have some Codes of Conduct listed on their website at:

http://www.nfsa.org.uk/conserv/codes.htm

It might be worth contacting them and asking them to adopt and publish the code.

They could also help with advice and practical help, such as publicity and distribution etc.

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Contact details are at: http://www.nfsa.org.uk/about/contacts.htm
thanks for that i think i will

've just looked through all of that and i can't see everything i'm trying to cover good piece of work though a bit fiddly for those who are not heavily computer literate
 

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All good common sense really, but there will surely be those who consider it an infringement of their rights to be told what to do with their litter or how to handle fish.

Actually, it will also save Defra many thousands of pounds in consultancy fees and public consultations if they adopted something sensible like this, as part of their RSA strategy, rather than cobble together something that has input from the green NGOs, the commercial sector and career civil servants...... but that would be too simple and FAR TOO direct.
 

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All good common sense really, but there will surely be those who consider it an infringement of their rights to be told what to do with their litter or how to handle fish.

Actually, it will also save Defra many thousands of pounds in consultancy fees and public consultations if they adopted something sensible like this, as part of their RSA strategy, rather than cobble together something that has input from the green NGOs, the commercial sector and career civil servants...... but that would be too simple and FAR TOO direct.
I Know exactly what you mean

as for the infringement bit i'm not telling anyone how to do anything this is merely a guideline for anyone whose interested young old new and seasoned

and it's not finished by a longshot let me know whats missing i've been adding to it and changing it all the time


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Great idea, would be good to see at venues like the Addy etc!!

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Sorry to say, but I think you are wasting your time. Majority of anglers will do most of the things you've suggested, those that don't will be the ones that will ignore this anyway.
 

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I think the idea is good but the execution needs to be more punchy, I got bored with reading it. Having learnt by being involved with many lengthy reports you would be better to make the whole thing a series of bullet points and keep the wording to a few sentences which come right to the point, there would be little need to elaborate on some of the points as you have done, for Instance something like "do not leave litter, it can harm wildlife and give anglers a bad name" will suffice and the person reading it would not get fed up and miss out reading any further.
I hope this helps as it is a good idea, just write it so that the morons you aim it at will actually read it and not dismiss it as it is to long to read.:clap3:
 

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check on the deep hooking bit as iv read somewhere that you should leave 18 inches of line attached to stop the hook from obstructing food entering the stomach
 

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One addition that I would suggest is that alcohol and angling don't mix. And before I get shot down in flames here I do realise that the majority of anglers who do drink and fish do it in moderation but if you have ever experienced being in the vicinity of a drunk or a group of drunks who are supposedly fishing then you will agree that it certainly isn't fun and can actually be quite dangerous. I fish a lot of marks on the river Tyne which are now residential and I feel for the residents who have to put up with half cut chavs swearing and shouting at 10pm on a Friday night. It's people like this who give all anglers a bad name.
 

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alright guys sorry i haven't been online for a few days my computers went a bit :crazy: i've been in touch with the head of the national federation of sea angling they like what i've said and my ideas so we'll see what happens now still need to get this all sorted out like some of the ideas given as i said this is just a rough idea get the facts right the we can chop it up and make it idiot proof
i'm gonna add two things to it one is a thee NFSA minimum limits table and a jargon buster explaining the different words and terminology used in sea angling that way if they don't undersstand they can look it up anymore advice would be grate
thanks again to everyone for their ideas and thoughs
 

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I think what your trying to achieve is good and what you've added so far is great but i do agree with issy that it needs to be shorter bullet points.
How about adding 'Respect your fellow angler' something along the lines of; respect someones space especially when fishing piers and other structures that jet out in the sea, etc etc.....
I think we moan a lot when the summers here but when winter comes an unpublished code of conduct is already in place, due to the fact only the commited anglers are doing what they love most. In the summer it just seems to be a free for all.
 

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I think what your trying to achieve is good and what you've added so far is great but i do agree with issy that it needs to be shorter bullet points.
How about adding 'Respect your fellow angler' something along the lines of; respect someones space especially when fishing piers and other structures that jet out in the sea, etc etc.....
I think we moan a lot when the summers here but when winter comes an unpublished code of conduct is already in place, due to the fact only the commited anglers are doing what they love most. In the summer it just seems to be a free for all.
i'm sure i can come up with something along those lines i just got in form work and will add a few things and do a bit of the old bullet pointing later
 
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