Just for the record I have no affiliation with Seagull Rigs, nor do I have any bias against Moonfleet. In fact Ian Houlton is a genuinely decent guy who is keen to help out with rig selection and doesn't want to rip people off. The exact same with Martyn at Seagull.
Just felt a wee bit militant that my post in another thread got edited to remove a link to Seagull Rigs. Its obvious there is some underlying issues with WSF, Moonfleet and Seagull going on.
No actually I will go into it. firstly the cost of my rigs. fair price for what you get, not just the end product but how it's put together. I do not sit at a table building them. It takes a mass of hard work usually from 06.30 in the morning to around 23.00 if I am lucky. The sea angler feature did me the world of good, but it also sorted out my work pattern pretty savagely.
Nothing I do here takes seconds, I cannot build rigs the way they go out in minutes and it actually takes physical effort to build them, a lot of effort in fact.
You get choices that cost me time. looking at the price and thinking it is heavy is only relevant if you forget your insurance, your taxes and your income. Bank charges, fuel, quality components and the presence of mind to put each rig through pretty harsh strain before, during and after the build. regardless of what people say or think, the cost of components has gone up pretty big time on a lot of goods.
now for issues between moonfleet, wsf and seagull.
no issues between moonfleet and wsf. They have my gear in the shop yes, but that gives me no leverage with mike or the mods at all. Anyone of the mods will say that over the years I have stood my ground and hacked of most of the mods on here and had some pretty major blowouts with mike.
As for seagull, well it's no secret at all that the owner of that site built my old website. It is also no secret that he wrecked my site over a personal issue and made it public knowledge. it is also a fact that he hacked my email account to inform 174 of my customers that I was basically no longer trading and that he had for several years "designed and manufactured my product.
last I heard was when I got a letter from him demanding that I pay 1250quid for web building and copyright theft.
well here is a fact that not many of you know. I had about as much as I could take and eventually under advice I called the police. they contacted him, he gave them his claims and they then visited me here.
I spent 2 hours totally undoing all his claims, every last one of them. Mostly this was done by trolling through all his old posts relating to him not having copyright, not having a clue about rig building and not having a clue about fishing.
most of the people who received his ridiculous email after he hacked my site were members of WSF and it caused a hell of a stink. he had his idiots supporting him, but basically they were leaches who thought they could get more out of him than they could out of me, and they were right.
now as for the police, they know exactly what happened, they have had the likes of all manner of web builders, companies and angling journalists explain the facts and seagull do not have any claim on me and never will.
the new website was put together by angling designs and it is no toy. The images on the site are as good as they get and done by a WSF member.
As a result of seagull rigs claims and interference with my site my business collapsed from under me and my families income was savaged.
It is now back to normality and to be honest I am pretty proud of my achievements over the last 5 yrs, I have worked hard and will continue to work hard. I have a business mentoring programme with business link and it is working, because it needs to. I fail to see why it should end.
I have had help from all manner of people both on this site and off and I am more than grateful. the rigs will carry on, I defy anyone to tell me that the products are over priced and would happily put links on here to anyone of a dozen sites who sell less quality and function for more than I price my rigs for.
any issues with moonfleet and seagull are over in my opinion and I do not care one ounce what people say about them.
Lastly, if people post comments about my rigs then to be honest I am bloody glad, because forums are known for one thing, the fact that any company can stand or fall on feedback left by forum members.
It's a good product and a unique product and it is getting bigger. show me a company that never started small.
also while I am here I will say that I do a lot more behind the scenes regarding angling at many levels that will never get mentioned, I am not here to make a fast buck, I do not sell on ebay because it is not an ebay relevant product.
I have no issues with anyone and I hope people leave comments good or bad regarding moonfleet as often as they want to, the same happens with all manner of rod companies, specific product suppliers and they always will. sell a decent product and people will comment on it.
Anyone who wants the facts regarding what happened to moonfleet, or the crime numbers relating to any issues are welcome to call me.
personally I would rather work up my day and bugger off fishing. but I will happily explain.
mods, please all of my post is not stepping out of line, its fact, angling news and public.
questions were asked, the answers are above.
