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What a great start to my break, yesterday (Tuesday) fished at the back of Bay View Camp Site (Whitehorses, Pevensey) from the low water up to about 5 ish, three bass, all to straight fresh black. Returned to the beach at 7 for the high water after munching my BBQ chicken legs and had another 3 bass, this time all to the Anglers Den’s fine frozen peelers. None were sizeable fish and they all went back.

This morning, with a slight red wine hangover, hit the beach for high water at a quarter to nine, mackerel bashing, it was fruitless, an hour and nothing, but did notice some 200 yards off shore two black flag buoys about the same distance apart. These apparently are nets, why are they allowed to do this, it is spoiling allegedly my sport and my fellow campers here, by potentially blocking the fish from coming inshore.

Spotted two trawlers obviously pair trawling off Langley Point as well, they must have been only 500 yards off shore as well, this commercialism is getting ridiculous for us anglers and something needs to be done!!!!!

Anyway, just back from a lunchtime drinky, sitting in my tent with the rain lashing down outside, so it’s a glass of red or three and hopefully an evening session after the lamb chops have been BBQ’d. Have some more of the AD’s fine black and crab to fish with. I live in hope?????????????

Tight lines…….
 

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Not sure what happened last evening, but blanked, not even a hint of a bite or a fish, crab, black every concoction, nothing showing and this morning as I type this, it's chucking it down, so will have to cook breaky in the tent.....Hey ho, always this evening to look forward too.

Heard the commercial go out earlier, well in shore they were, yet again they are getting away with it.

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hey mate, if it is any help to you, had a mackkie bash on tuesday at white horses. tried various distances / depths and caught a few average sized ones. Found that long range near the bottom was the only place I caught any.
 

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Tony, get pictures of the pair trawlers, and their registration numbers. Send them to me by PM. The problem this year would seem to be that commercials are also having a hard time, especially around the Eastbourne area, and are turning to more desperate measures. If only they could all have the morals of Albe2 this wouldnt be happening. The lack of mackerel this year is truly scary, as everything hangs off them, and I have heard it said that huge shoals got clobbered as they moved further out of EU waters into Norwegian waters, where there are no quotas for mackerel.
Its that bad that I am looking for driving work to keep some income whilst looking to see if the situation improves, as not everyone wants to come fish for mullet and hounds...... :(

B.A.S.S. warned us last year that this year there would be something of a collapse. Last year I was having a good bass year, and thought it couldnt be possible. But results from myself and other bass obsessed people this year would suggest they were spot on. Its a very scary situation, and what with other issues happening this year, my plan to get out of this very ill country might be bought forward a couple of years!!!!!
 

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On the strength of the depression of this post, I just checked in with the progress of the two most succesfull rod and line commercials out of Brighton. Worst year they have ever known, and they have been at it a long time........!! On the flip side, once all the fish have gone, it will be unviable for commercials to put to sea. I guess they will be looking for the drving jobs as well then. :mellow:
 

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whether the commercials are a cause or not, i know not but, it is disheartening to see the nets so close in. the cod ban had defo caused other fish to be hit hard, sole and bass particularly.

in about 4 sessions this year I / We've had around 40 bass but, i've not seen aanything like sizable, mostly 20-30cm.

hounds thin in the bay so far too, as are sole by the sounds of it.

anyways, Tony, fish the low too mate, fishing over low has proved more productive than the higher states for me, two trips to horses has produced about 25 schoolies, some even before the water hit the sand and barely 25yrds out, maybe in a foot of water!


plenty of fish, just nothing to eat! stick to lug too, fresh out if you can get them but, i guess if you're staying in a tent it'll be hard to keep em cool.

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plenty of fish, just nothing to eat!

Hugh
That's it Hugh i am not going to tell you where the big Bass are if you are going to eat them.

Hows it going mate, is business ok??

All the best.

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This morning, with a slight red wine hangover, hit the beach for high water at a quarter to nine, mackerel bashing, it was fruitless, an hour and nothing, but did notice some 200 yards off shore two black flag buoys about the same distance apart. These apparently are nets, why are they allowed to do this, it is spoiling allegedly my sport and my fellow campers here, by potentially blocking the fish from coming inshore.

Spotted two trawlers obviously pair trawling off Langley Point as well, they must have been only 500 yards off shore as well, this commercialism is getting ridiculous for us anglers and something needs to be done!!!!!



I fish White Horses from time to time with a local Angler and these nets have become a major problem in last couple of years.
I am led to believe that the nets have to have 1m of water over the top of the net at low water. This has not been the case on a number of occasions and that this has been reported to the authorities, I believe no action has been taken.
Have tried to research information on netting from the shore on both Defra and Cefas web sites but can't find the information I want.
Most of the info concerns Salmon and migratory fish.

Dorset Pier Poacher Brought To Court
A fisherman who fixed an illegal net to a Dorset pier was today ordered to pay £815 in fines and costs in a case brought by the Environment Agency.
Ah Chan claimed he was out to catch mullet when he set a monofilament gill net at Lake Pier, Hamworthy in Poole Harbour. One end of the net was fixed to the pier by a rope and the other tied to a wire gabion on the shore.
The use of fixed nets is prohibited in Poole Harbour between April 1 and September 30 to protect migrating salmon and sea trout. The byelaw is enforced by the Environment Agency.
Acting on a tip-off, an Agency bailiff arrived in Hamworthy at 5.20 am on August 30, 2007 and found the net stretched along the side the pier. The tide was ebbing and the net fully visible on the beach. It was still dark. A little over an hour later the bailiff observed a man retrieving the net from the pier.
He stopped and questioned Ah Chan who said he was only fishing for mullet – not salmon. He claimed someone had told him there were ‘lots of mullet around.’ He had set the net on the previous high tide.
Seizing the illegal net, the bailiff told Chan he would be reported for a fishing offence.
‘Monofilament gill nets are virtually invisible and pose a serious risk to migrating salmon and sea trout as they pass through coastal waters such as Poole Harbour on their way to local rivers to spawn. It is important fishermen are fully aware of byelaws and only use nets at the relevant time of the year,’ said Stuart Kingston-Turner for the Environment Agency.
Appearing before East Dorset magistrates sitting at Wimborne, Chan, of East Street, Blandford, Dorset was fined £400 and ordered to pay £415 costs after pleading guilty to, on or about August 30, 2007, placing a fixed net in tidal waters at Lake Pier, Hamworthy, Poole Harbour contrary to the Salmon and Freshwater Fisheries Act 1975 and the Salmon act 1986.

So would he have been prosecuted outside these dates
 

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Have a read of Sussex sea fisheries bylaws especially the fixed engine (nets) page http://www.sussex-sfc.gov.uk/byelaw_fixed_engines.htm if you see something that breaks the laws then report it to them giving as much info as possible. Most fixed netting is legal and not destructive to the marine environment (unlike trawling) but it does (obviously) catch fish.
 

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Gents,

Just back from two sessions, fished the tide up from the bottom, a couple of schoolies, but the last three hours of the high this evening, not a touch, crab, black and all measure of bait tried, two rods, six hooks and nothing apart from looking at those two black flagged net marks.

When I was in Suffolk last year, I cut the nets left out at low water, the owner wasn't happy, but who cares, he was out of order, wish I could get a boat and cut those dam nets out there, Whitehorses always fishes well this time of year, well any time of year.

Will try again tomorrow morning, but thinking of shelving tomorrow night's session, 10:30pm tide, so should be perfect, but why waste the bait given the latest!!!!!!!!

Rob, We need to work together on these netters, they are a pain, and the pair trawlers, need a pair of bics to get their numbers, but they looked familiar, possibly the pair that fished of Shoreham and Lancing.

Will update tomorrow after throwing possibly more wasted bait into the pond.

Camping holiday has neen nice though, very relaxing, possibly the red wine!!!

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Thanks for the reports Tony - I'm down at my caravan at Normans Bay on Saturday until Wednesday. Will probably try high tide saturday evening - was thinking of going to Whitehorses but after your last couple of sessions I might as well stick to Normans Bay - particualrly as it's just walking distance from the caravan site!!

Will probably get in a couple of low tide sessions as well - Normans bay can be quite good if the conditions are right. I've only caught a few Mackerel this year so I'll try and get to langney Ponit for a few of them as well - sounds like I'm going to be busy doesn't it? - I'm glad I've got an understanding wife!!
 

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What a complete disaster last night was, all brought about by now two nets, the second turned up as it turned dark and was put along side the first, but angled in, so if you can bang it out to 150 yards, you’ll catch the black flag buoy.

I was armed with crab, black, mackerel, squid etc, not even a bite or a nod, the same this morning, fished three hours up to high water, nothing, no mackerel either, the sea at Whitehorses is devoid of fish, because they are either caught up in the nets, or can’t get in.

Just spoke with a guy who has turned up for a weekends bash at Bay View, he reported the nets to the EA two weeks ago, nothing has therefore been done by them……….We need to start a campaign against beach netting.

Also an update on the pair trawlers seen Thursday, these two B’s are the same two that have been off Lancing and Shoreham, again, why doesn’t the Fisheries boat get itself out there and deal with them. More to this, they were seen last Saturday as close as 400 metres off shore at high water, allegedly, sweeping from Sovereign Harbour along to the Bay. No wonder I blanked last night and this morning.

Four days here and only a few schoolies to show for it, not even a beloved sole, hate it, didn’t spoil my break though, and I will come back, armed with an inflatable and a knife!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Its a shame to hear about these bloody nets and lack of fish locally, I was thinking to fish White Horses for the 1st time tonight but after reading of your efforts there I may stay up my way closer to the pier, I've only caught 1 sizeable bass and some small whiting and others there but from what I read that seems to be good compared to other local spots. Maybe Pevensey Bay is better but I don't know if nets are there as well
 

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Criminal damage if you cut someones nets we may not like it but if the boats licenced its pecfectly legal for the nets to be there,like it or not there is a demand for fish on the table and these boys have to earn a crust too.
 

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Threatening criminal damage on a public forum is pretty stupid and from an ex-copper(?) as well!!!!! There's a recurring theme to your posts Tony in that there is always something else to blame for your lack of fish.
 

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Its a shame to hear about these bloody nets and lack of fish locally, I was thinking to fish White Horses for the 1st time tonight but after reading of your efforts there I may stay up my way closer to the pier, I've only caught 1 sizeable bass and some small whiting and others there but from what I read that seems to be good compared to other local spots. Maybe Pevensey Bay is better but I don't know if nets are there as well
plenty of fish down there dude, just that sizable stuff is more sparse, freshest lug you can find and away you go... muscles / slipper limpets worked the other day ok too.
 

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Maybe Pevensey Bay is better but I don't know if nets are there as well
just come back to pump out some freashouts down there.
met a few locals and tried to engage in some fishy info and all i got is how they cant wait for the tide to go out later for their nets....
so yes,they are still netting down there
 

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There is no netting (fixed above low water Mark) allowed except tween 1st october and end of, I think, April. If there are nets then they aren't legal so report them.

If you're talking about the ones a few hundred yards out from low Mark with black flags then they're ok and most likely not illegal.

As I said, there are fish there if you wanna find em. Mostly small but others will be out there!
 
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