any one want to swap me for a greys orion 13" m2 6oz, which is brand new, an impulse buy {full of drink} it was 130 squid and is too heavy for the ground i fish, if you fish heavy snaggy ground its would be ideal looking for a rod same length but with more flexabillity...................thought it might be worth a shot anyway............... .........ill never go to the tackle shop after the pub again 