[GERAINT HAYES]

Looking for tips on best baits and cocktails for rays and the best presentation techniques, going for rays ogmore next week.
Please !!! Thankyou

i have always used two sandeel wrapped in squid with head and tails cut off!!

 

[big spurrie]

Mackie, Sandeel works well, pulley rig with long snood or a long and low using 3/0 - 4/0 hook.

 

[gorby]

Large sandeel....either plain or wrapped with squid/bluey work well down there :thumbs:

 

[flipside-of-b]

Looking for tips on best baits and cocktails for rays and the best presentation techniques, going for rays ogmore next week.
Please !!! Thankyou

i have always used two sandeel wrapped in squid with head and tails cut off!!

Another tip is when you can don't use a gripper lead. Allow rig to roll, good chance i will find a dip in the bottom which rays like to sit in.... best suited to clean ground. As previously stated long snoods are recommended. And by that i mean 30 inch plus. Pulley or rigs like droppers which put the bait hard on the bottom. Best baits for this area ( Solent ) already covered. But tastes seem to change from one region to another.Oh! And just in case you think he seems to know what he's on about. This is stuff i have read up on. I am by no means an expert. Good luck fella.

 

[GERAINT HAYES]

Thanks guys !! 30 inch snood, working on it

 

[TomW]

I fish ogmore regular. 3-4ft pulleys or the up and over pulley. Bait wise a single sandeel or sandeel and squid wrap is best down there. Also 1st 3hrs up from low can be the best time for them and I find medium tides best. Don't go too light on your hook length either. Good luck!

 

[lighty]

3ft plus running ledger to a 6.0 hook, a few rag worm to catch some Pout, a slice of Pout for bait,
failing that Sandeel is next best, then Mackeral/Crab.

lighty

 

[flipside-of-b]

3ft plus running ledger to a 6.0 hook, a few rag worm to catch some Pout, a slice of Pout for bait,
failing that Sandeel is next best, then Mackeral/Crab.

lighty

Would i be right in thinking this would be a rig used from a boat. When using just a sandeel from the beach i use hooks rangeing from 2/0-2/0 pennels to a single 3 or 4/0.

 

[gert]

Hi ,

i've had a few on peeler or sandeel but i've caught most of my rays in Brittany on fresh sardine filets ... with the (very welcome!) surprise of a middle sized turbot now and then on the same bait!
Rig-wise , i agree with the others : 3ft/4ft snoods ; 2/0-4/0 hooks (single or pennel) ...

Gert

 

[timmey]

i prefer to use fish baits, mackeral or squid, had them on all sorts of bait but thats my top bait for them..

 

[lighty]

Would i be right in thinking this would be a rig used from a boat. When using just a sandeel from the beach i use hooks rangeing from 2/0-2/0 pennels to a single 3 or 4/0.

No mate, this is from the beach. I always use a running Ledger, weights..grips or plain,
and I always use a large hook, like a 6.0 so there is plenty of hook clear of the bait..40lb snoods
and the snood length as long as the conditions allow..at least 3ft, maybe 5ft/6ft+ if I am using a long rod
and the sea is not too rough.
I always use a large hook for rays as I find they are much easier to get out and the Rays
never seem to take a large hook down too far, mostly lip hooked if I get it right? so they can be put back undamaged
I return all rays now as I no longer eat them, and too heavy now to cart back up the cliffs where I fish.lol
Lots use pulley's where I fish and get there fair share of Rays, its a personal thing as the fish don't give a damn what end tackle you have,
but if you use the bait which they will feed on you are in with a chance, and also find the distance, area that they are feeding in, it may surprise you.

lighty

 

[flipside-of-b]

Bloody hell. I don't think i own a 6/0 hook.. Quite funny really i have always been concerned that 4/0's might put them off. Will get some and try it.

 

[lighty]

Bloody hell. I don't think i own a 6/0 hook.. Quite funny really i have always been concerned that 4/0's might put them off. Will get some and try it.

"Quite funny really i have always been concerned that 4/0's might put them off"

Mate, fish don't know what a hook is!

Thread a large Sandeel on a 4.0, run your hand down it (gently)
now thread it on a 6.0 and run your hand down it, which do you think has the best chance of hooking?

I have fished with a lot of people that use smaller hooks, they are always complaining of losing good fish?
but I do tend to use larger baits when applicable, best not tell the size of my Bass hooks..lol

lighty

 

[GERAINT HAYES]

Awesome !! Thanks

 

[shoreboy]

Squid or Sandandeel are your best bet

 

[weepete]

Mackerel and squid cocktail does the business up my way,I like to fish it on a long and low clipped rig with a penel. The way I do it is to cut a chunk of mackerel just bigger than the penel, then the squid gets cut to the same with but leaving an extra 3-4" as a tail. Squid goes on to the flesh side off the mackerel and bound by elastic and the tail gets tapered into an almost V shape, one hook each side.

 

[lovey]

Mackie, Sandeel works well, pulley rig with long snood or a long and low using 3/0 - 4/0 hook.

thank you

 

[Kaiih Henson]

Been having all my thornbacks on mackerel heads cut an inch past the gill plate hook mounted in a groove running up the top of the head. Tight lines dude 👍🎣