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Cheers Gulp, I have been tying some rigs and my blood knots look tosh!!:headhurt:
I will start again and give the grinner a go
 

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Yes the grinner for me - 4 turns each way, when tightened down you can just see how good it looks
 
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I converted to the Grinner having seen a bass slip away at the base of a harbour wall. Good for hooks: the tag acts as a baitholder.
 

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I use grinners for much of my knot tying, from eight to three turns, depending on line thickness. Anything above 40lb I use a three turn grinner
 

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I use grinners for much of my knot tying, from eight to three turns, depending on line thickness. Anything above 40lb I use a three turn grinner
On heavier mono60lb + I use 3 turns and on light mono/flouro I use up to six turns for a grinner....
There is the domkoff or thumb knot which I do have to look up to do but that for me would be used above 60lb....
 

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On heavier mono60lb + I use 3 turns and on light mono/flouro I use up to six turns for a grinner....
There is the domkoff or thumb knot which I do have to look up to do but that for me would be used above 60lb....
You need to look at the Trace Mate mate, 3rd item down on the linked page
 

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I'll second the grinner, named after the late great Dick Walkers son (apparently he grinned a lot)
Have you just made that up? :bones:
I have done a few grinners and they look good, I can see why you need to cut down on the amount of turns for the thicker line, its like folding a bit of paper more than 7 times LOL
Grinner it is then, cheers for the help
 

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I use a version of the Uni knot that I found on the web, it's never failed to date. http://www.animatedknots.com/uniknot/index.php I take it most of you guys use a double grinner if you're talking about four turns each way? Also I've seen grinner knots with two loops through the eye of the hook/swivel does anyone use that version?

There seems to be a bit of variation on what a grinner knot actually is with a few versions on how to tie it out there on the web
 

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I use a version of the Uni knot that I found on the web, it's never failed to date. http://www.animatedknots.com/uniknot/index.php I take it most of you guys use a double grinner if you're talking about four turns each way? Also I've seen grinner knots with two loops through the eye of the hook/swivel does anyone use that version?

There seems to be a bit of variation on what a grinner knot actually is with a few versions on how to tie it out there on the web
Think you're talking about a palomar. TBH..a grinner looks a lot neater than that uni knot. I use a 4-3 turn.. Although I belive a true grinner knot is 4-4?
 

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I use a version of the Uni knot that I found on the web, it's never failed to date. http://www.animatedknots.com/uniknot/index.php I take it most of you guys use a double grinner if you're talking about four turns each way? Also I've seen grinner knots with two loops through the eye of the hook/swivel does anyone use that version?

There seems to be a bit of variation on what a grinner knot actually is with a few versions on how to tie it out there on the web
Yes, through the eye, 4 turns around the line, back to the eye making a loop and then 4 turns around the original 4. Wet it and pull up the tail to tighten then slide it down to the eye and tighten fully.
I only put the line through the eye once, haven't had any failures
 

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Is a grinner knot not the same as a uni knot ?
I'm not sure, I don't think so if you really want to know...(Sounds like you already do but when don't you eh :laugh:)... but the one in the picture http://www.animatedknots.com/uniknot/uni_knot.jpg looks absolutely tommy tank.
They way it is tied here -> http://www.animatedknots.com/uniknot/index.php <- is diffrent to how I tie a 'grinner'. So come on...how do you tie yours? The four twist-loop-three twist or the 'grinner' is much neater...go try it and find out before poking a go at me :kissing:
 

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Yes. I do knot know which is the original name. But it was introduced to me as the grinner, so that's how I remember it.
it may well have been me who intrduced you to it dave. but as you know - grinner -- uni --- or if my arld head is'nt working i might call the bl---y thing fred. number of turns? as many as needed so it does'nt slip. :crazy: ther'es some excellent threads for anyone who uses the search facility. all i did was enter "grinner" and this is just one of many.

http://www.worldseafishing.com/forums/showthread.php?t=279065&highlight=grinner
 
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I'm not sure, I don't think so if you really want to know...(Sounds like you already do but when don't you eh :laugh:)... but the one in the picture http://www.animatedknots.com/uniknot/uni_knot.jpg looks absolutely tommy tank.
They way it is tied here -> http://www.animatedknots.com/uniknot/index.php <- is diffrent to how I tie a 'grinner'. So come on...how do you tie yours? The four twist-loop-three twist or the 'grinner' is much neater...go try it and find out before poking a go at me :kissing:
it may well have been me who intrduced you to it dave. but as you know - grinner -- uni --- or if my arld head is'nt working i might call the bl---y thing fred. number of turns? as many as needed so it does'nt slip. :crazy: ther'es some excellent threads for anyone who uses the search facility. all i did was enter "grinner" and this is just one of many.

http://www.worldseafishing.com/forums/showthread.php?t=279065&highlight=grinner
I'm not "poking a go" at anyone; and certainly never claim to know everything as you suggest.

I asked a simple question. Both look the same to my relatively untrained eye so I just wondered if there was an actual difference.
It's the Fred from now on then Bill.

I can see why some complain about the argumentative nature of the forums. OP asks "what knot?". It is to be expected that there could be more than one suggestion.......

.............but accusations of poking a go, disputes about the magical number of turns, blah blah blah. In the middle ages they allegedly debated how many angels could dance on the head of a pin. They'd have had a field day on here.
 
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