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never tried that one, but if you need numbers pm me can't be any worse than the wee ( or was it just pish?) boat from ardrossan, didn't seem to know the water, no sign of safety gear, but he did have a fish finder - although not really needed for mackeral.
 

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just a thought, but anyone tried the dawn rise out of millport? a friend told me he'd seen it in a mag a while back - but haven't heard anything else about it
 
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