[mick meadows]

Any body used one.
Any opinions on them.
Just bought a rod and it has one fitted.
Never used one before, might give it a go .

 

[Stupidluke]

I have one on my Team Extreme and I get on fine with it now. My first session with it was a bit embarrassing though as it took a few casts to get my release timing right.

I wrap the leader around the button twice before trapping it to stop it slippping during the cast. They are handy to have when casting with braid too, saved putting a finger guard condom thing on every time.

Would have bought a couple more by now but I got a couple of Den's casting triggers off here for my other rods

 

[Guest]

Yep, as above handy bit of kit. And unlike a thumby thing you won't loose it as it's fixed to your rod,

 

[Yakdiver]

I find them very good

 

[OldSeaDog]

I use the thumb button (much cheaper) and find it works brilliantly.
Only tried the canon once and found it works well, but I still prefer the trusty old button, it is loads cheaper and in my opinion much easier to use.

 

[ijjwsg]

I tried finger stalls, then the Cannon, but didn't get on with it. I now use Den's Casting Triggers on my rods, they're the bees knees. So easy to use even with gloves on icy nights.

 

[mick meadows]

I tried finger stalls, then the Cannon, but didn't get on with it. I now use Den's Casting Triggers on my rods, they're the bees knees. So easy to use even with gloves on icy nights.

Cheers for the info guys.
I've never used any kind of trigger or protection,never had a problem,,got leather fingers I think.
Use braid and mono.
I ll have a go with this canon n see wat its like,, the way I see it,, is it may be use full if you really want to give it some and get the lead out as far as possible.
Also where can I see Dens trigger, cant find it on the net.

 

[furryontheinside]

I didn't realise how much more power I could put into the last part of my cast until I used the Cannon. Distance definitely improved, for me.
Essential to use (something like this) with a braid leader. Never slips with three turns around the "capstan" bit and no worries in the dark if the third turn might not have gone on.
Mine is offset to the left as I'm a leftie, stops anyone else trying out my rod to see what it's like.
Needs to be placed level with the line roller or can be a slight faff opening the bail arm.
Makes a great snag puller as its always there where I need it and it grips the (0.16 - 0.28mm) braid line very well. I put several turns on the capstan when doing this. Has never taken any line off my reel when snapping out hooks or snoods from snags. Allows my winding hand to be free to wind straight away which is great with feathers, preventing them snagging a second time.
I'm interested to hear if the other types of casting aid are as good for pulling out of snags.
I never tighten up the drag at any time during a fishing session unless I'm pumping in a big heavy weedfish.
I just wish they were cheaper.

 

[ijjwsg]

Hi,

Try searching the forum for FS trigger or contact pole dark on here via pm as he's Den.

J

 

[Chas64]

Just stuck a video review up, if that's any help.
Chas

 

[mick meadows]

Just stuck a video review up, if that's any help.
Chas

Cant see video review chad.
I gave the canon a go today off the slipway at Portishead.
Had 6oz lead on big squid n black bait.i can say it went well, a bit fidgetty getting the line wrapped around the knob first 2 or 3 times tho.
I can definitely get more distant with it,
As when using just my finger and going for it the line tends to cut into the finger a bit.
With the canon, you don't have that problem.
But I don't think I would use it to pull out of snags.... As they are only taped on and if that tape gives way,, you would probably take out the first eye with the canon, will stick to using me hands with gloves for that.
What did we catch...
About 30 cod between us, nothing over 2lb.

 

[tatch]

great bits of kit but I found these better still

 

[furryontheinside]

Had 6oz lead on big squid n black bait. i can say it went well...
But I don't think I would use it to pull out of snags.... As they are only taped on and if that tape gives way,....

You have 70, or 80lb leader which you need to power cast that kind of rig? Then the tape won't give way stretching a hook, or snapping a 20-30lb snood or "rotten bottom"!

Nice to hear you already got extra distance on your cast. Be careful your rod is rated for it!
Good catching too! *envies*

 

[furryontheinside]

great bits of kit but I found these better still

Tatch, what do you prefer about them? Are you usually using multiplier reels? i.e. you have already learned to use your thumb to release the cast?
For some reason videos won't play on my phone either.
Are they as good for pulling out of snags?
Not that I would switch personally as I have four (I think) Cannons anyway. Just interesting to hear.

 

[poledark]

Hi furryinsde. I make the Triggers. I have not tried pulling for a break with them so gave it a go just now. Using 60lb braid, I tied the end to a door handle, wrapped the line around the trigger post 5 times with reel clutch fairly tight. The Trigger was taped on with electricians tape.

I pulled harder and harder and watched the tape to see if there was any sign of it slipping, and it did seem to flex slightly, but didn't really move at all. I moved back and pulled some more, I increased the pressure and also used my other thumb to add support to the Trigger and pulled even harder, this stopped any sign of the tape stretching. I gave up as I decided it might damage the reel, but this was with me almost leaning back being supported by the braid!.

Provided the spool wasn't extended to far forward then I might be prepared to actually pull for a break, but as I only use 30lb hook links then there shouldn't be a problem.

Just done a further test with my normal setup and 30lb hook link to a 6/0 hook. Main line 60lb...swivel....30lb hook link...6/0 hook....door handle

Pulled for a break with no probs broke at the 30lb swivel knot (I use the noknot knot for all hook testing)

You might be interested to know why I designed the Trigger, I used the Cannons for a couple of years OK but found that on some occasions, especially when giving it some welly with cold wet hands, that I tended to "let go" with my reel hand. I think this was because I lost my grip partly due to the action of having to "let go" of the Cannon. So I wondered about using my thumb as per a multi (never let go with that). And it worked! simple as that Used multis for many years and one is always aware of them when casting, but with the Trigger and a FS the reel is taken out of the equation once the line is past around the post. I know a man who has hit well over 200mtrs with one (well over)

They are quite time consuming to make, 5 separate parts, cutting to size, bending and then some machining and drilling, pressing to shape and finally riveting together. Stainless steel is quite hard stuff but will outlast your rod, and probably you as well

I might make another video or add a bit to the one on youtube

Den

 

[lipslicker]

Cheers for the info guys.
I've never used any kind of trigger or protection,never had a problem,,got leather fingers I think.
Use braid and mono.
I ll have a go with this canon n see wat its like,, the way I see it,, is it may be use full if you really want to give it some and get the lead out as far as possible.
Also where can I see Dens trigger, cant find it on the net.

Buddy, far be it for me to advise, but I can only suggest you don't cast bare fingered.
You might have survived intact till now, but you only need to have a loosened drag with braid to end up with sliced tendons? Not worth the risk?

 

[mick meadows]

Ch

Buddy, far be it for me to advise, but I can only suggest you don't cast bare fingered.
You might have survived intact till now, but you only need to have a loosened drag with braid to end up with sliced tendons? Not worth the risk?

Cheers for that lipslicker, had a near miss once so far with braid,,was lucky.
I normally just let the rod do the work and cast smoothly then I don't have any problems.
Also it pays to make sure ya hands are dry before casting, stops any slipping.
Slipped with the canon yesterday because me hands were wet.

 

[mick meadows]

You have 70, or 80lb leader which you need to power cast that kind of rig? Then the tape won't give way stretching a hook, or snapping a 20-30lb snood or "rotten bottom"!

Nice to hear you already got extra distance on your cast. Be careful your rod is rated for it!
Good catching too! *envies*

Hi furry, don't worry the rod is rated upto 8oz. Sonik gravity surf.
Cast 7oz n bait nicely as long as you keep it smooth.
Put a 4 or 5 oz on and you really can get some distance.

 

[furryontheinside]

Hi furry, don't worry the rod is rated upto 8oz. Sonik gravity surf.
Cast 7oz n bait nicely as long as you keep it smooth.
Put a 4 or 5 oz on and you really can get some distance.

You missed my point but no worries.. I was saying if the Cannon can withstand the cast (I use 210g+bait too on the winter rod) then it can withstand pulling for a break and you can safely forget the glove. As long as you have decent tape.
While I'm replying to you, I think offsetting the Cannon very slightly to the side stops slippage by allowing you to get your index finger further around the lever. (I can't call that part the trigger now as Den/poledark's product is the Trigger!)

I have to say I think both types shown in the above vids are mounted further forward than the line roller. The Trigger I suppose needs to be placed optimally for your thumb, but the Cannon can certainly be placed further back so that the bail arm opens smoothly without catching on the line. Not actually hard to pull the line back but a minor faff until you get used to if. This is something you have to put up with anyway on size 4000 and smaller reels anyway since there's a limit to how far back you can tape it (unless you don't mind re-applying the tape each session).

There are two ways to pull for a break.. Beach style with the rod pointed at the snag, using the line immediately exiting the reel onto the Cannon or Trigger; and Boat/rock style if you don't have room to point the rod, using the line outside the rod tip. I will try to get a photo in here of my Cannon with trimmed down lever /4000 reel/light rod.
Taking photos with one hand is only semi tricky which I think proves the usefulness of these devices! Only a two litre 4.4lb weight shown here but it shows how I'm holding the full weight one handed and no strain on reel or rod and no risk to fingers, free hand is free to wind in or take photos. (the rubber band was just useful to set up the photo but I think .. Yep I can support this weight using only the band!)

 

[mick meadows]

You missed my point but no worries.. I was saying if the Cannon can withstand the cast (I use 210g+bait too on the winter rod) then it can withstand pulling for a break and you can safely forget the glove. As long as you have decent tape.
While I'm replying to you, I think offsetting the Cannon very slightly to the side stops slippage by allowing you to get your index finger further around the lever. (I can't call that part the trigger now as Den/poledark's product is the Trigger!)

I have to say I think both types shown in the above vids are mounted further forward than the line roller. The Trigger I suppose needs to be placed optimally for your thumb, but the Cannon can certainly be placed further back so that the bail arm opens smoothly without catching on the line. Not actually hard to pull the line back but a minor faff until you get used to if. This is something you have to put up with anyway on size 4000 and smaller reels anyway since there's a limit to how far back you can tape it (unless you don't mind re-applying the tape each session).

There are two ways to pull for a break.. Beach style with the rod pointed at the snag, using the line immediately exiting the reel onto the Cannon or Trigger; and Boat/rock style if you don't have room to point the rod, using the line outside the rod tip. I will try to get a photo in here of my Cannon with trimmed down lever /4000 reel/light rod.
Taking photos with one hand is only semi tricky which I think proves the usefulness of these devices! Only a two litre 4.4lb weight shown here but it shows how I'm holding the full weight one handed and no strain on reel or rod and no risk to fingers, free hand is free to wind in or take photos. (the rubber band was just useful to set up the photo but I think .. Yep I can support this weight using only the band!)
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Nice report, but I've nearly always pulled out of snags with the rod facing the snag, and line wrapped around my hand or glove holding the rod with both hands.
9 times outa 10 if I hold it tight for a few seconds it gives way, n by using ya hand you have more feel and control.
No pressure on the reel.