thanks for the welcome and the tip for wormit. went to riverside thursday nigt for a couple of hours. nothing doing, just some flounders. went over to balmarino on friday for 3 hours in the afternoon. one trout, small sbout half a pound. will be trying the landfill at invergowrie this week. have had good fish there before, best 4 on one outing, not bad for this side of the water. if you like fishing for flounders you get some big ones there as well, last year got one over 2 pounds.