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never fished the beach, what distance do you recon you were fishing at. (am not a brilliant caster so no point going if its long casting req'd) what hook sizes were you using because some one told me the other day that this time of year theres no point using owt bigger than a 4.
 

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cheers for the quick reply...i have come to realise that you are very good at what you do and i greatly value your reports and advice. i will be going to a meet soon i hope but i have just came out of work so cannot afford the travel/bait expenses
 
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