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hi swiss,had a trip 2 west coast of scotland portpatrick,kirkholme did try these crabs worked quite well on float round rock marks also found slow retrive over cleanish ground also worked we took pollock on float with a few wrass chucked in on bottom wrass,flatties and couple of doggies only grumble there only good 4 a couple of takes think i paid about 4 quwid 4 mine.good luck
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