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MODs, Please if possible can this be stickied until 26th April when the consultation period runs out:

Dear All,

Set out below are questions being asked by Defra as part of their consultation for Sea Fishing's Future policy:

I have attached my answers to them and sent them to Defra, please attach your own answers and do the same by 26th April. You don't get much opportunity to influence policy, but this is a chance even if it is ignored. You do not need to be a member of the SACN to reply.

PLEASE BE CIVIL AND POLITE WITH YOUR ANSWERS, HOWEVER IRRITATING SOME OF THE QUESTIONS MAYBE.

Send your replies to the questions to:

http://www.defra.gov.uk/corporate/consult/fish-2027/index.htm

I have received the following questions you have raised from Leon Roskilly of the SACN. I am also a member of the SACN.

Please find below appended in red my answers in red. I have been an RSA for the last 25 years and the drop in quality and quantity of catches in that time has been in the order of 90%. I hope that there might be a remote possibility that DEFRA might this time react with something more than platitudes and inaction.

• What is an acceptable level of environmental
impact for different parts of the supply chain
e.g. different types of fishing gear;


Minimum mesh sizes must be made much larger than at present.
discards;

Discards can never be acceptable and are a result of the idiotic quota system. If they were banned entirely and used as quota, then all fish stocks would benefit. As once quotas include what is now discarded, all of which die anyway, are caught, the true situation can be ascertained.

aquaculture;

Only to be allowed whereby sea-water used is treated and re-used, this provides an incredibly rich source of fertiliser and stops environmental and genetic pollution. Feed-stocks could also be grown this way thus preventing the collapse of the food chain caused by industrial fishing. There are already purpose built inland seawater farms doing this.

transport of fish from overseas?

From a disease risk and the obvious environmental impacts, as much as possible should be done to reduce this.

• How much access to fisheries should be
available to coastal communities through

Government intervention rather than leaving
the market to operate (with the likely result of
the most economically efficient operators
gaining all of the resource)?


A great deal more than happens currently.

• How much access to fisheries should be
available for recreational angling?


All of it of course, except where it is shown that RSA would have major impact on stocks. Unlikely they ever would do so to my mind, but I stand to be corrected.

• What information do consumers need to be
able to make sustainable choices?


A traffic light system. Green for sustainable, red for all at risk species.

• Does it matter how much of the fish we eat is
from aquaculture?


Not if is done as set out above.

• Is this a vision that you would endorse? Why? Why not?

If all of the above were granted, yes.

• Is the balance right between economic, social and environmental aspects? If not,
how would you like it changed?


As set out above

• What, if anything, is missing?


Set aside NTZ’s for commercials, no netting inside 1 mile from the coast.

• Have we got the roles and responsibilities right?


Nice to see some effort being made, but too little too late I fear.

• Have we identified the costs and benefits correctly?


Don’t know what they are. Have almost certainly failed to recognise the benefits of RSA. In Scotland the C & R policy (voluntary), re-stocking by riparian owners etc, buying out the estuary nets, banning drift nets in Ireland, has had huge impacts on the Scottish rural economy as the salmon fishing has improved. The same has to apply to RSA, common senses shows it will.

• For the comprehensive package we need for marine fisheries, which bits do you
agree with or disagree with? Why?


I would agree if all of the above suggestions were adopted and rigorously enforced.
 

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Some other consultations that need attention.

- Response to the Fisheries 2027 Vision have to be in by 26th April, not long now!
http://www.defra.gov.uk/corporate/consult/...-2027/index.htm

- DEFRA are asking for input to the EU Discards proposals by the 31st May
http://ec.europa.eu/fisheries/press_corner...com07_18_en.htm

- Responses to the Marine Bill White Paper are needed by 8th June
http://www.defra.gov.uk/environment/water/...cy/marine-bill/

- Responses to the EU Maritime Green Paper are required by 30th June
http://ec.europa.eu/maritimeaffairs/policy_en.html#com

- And the DEFRA RSA Strategy 12 week consultation starts 'In the Spring/Early Summer'

All of these give an opportunity to present views on licensing, bag limits, closed areas etc as well as telling DEFRA etc what it is that anglers want to see in future.
 

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I am sorry to reply to this petition and appear to be despondent,it is my EXPERENCE in dealing with DEFRA that we are compleatly ignored,big money wins every time,just look at Brenard Mathews total whitewash,i wish you luck with your petition and just hope that it receives the answers you deserve == PAT
 

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I am sorry to reply to this petition and appear to be despondent,it is my EXPERENCE in dealing with DEFRA that we are compleatly ignored,big money wins every time,just look at Brenard Mathews total whitewash,i wish you luck with your petition and just hope that it receives the answers you deserve == PAT

It is also a point that apathy gets everyone nowhere.

The current government was elected by 20% of the eligible electorate, as 55% of them did not bother to vote at all, and now winge because they say no one listens to them.

If everyone continues to follow your point of view, nothing will ever get done by those that want change. If all RSA were to reply to Defra, DEFRA would realise that people are fed up with having their views ignored and have to do something about it. But if everyone continues to do nothing, they cannot complain when things go against them.

Post in your answers, it is not a petition, it is asking questions that need answers. It only takes a minute or two, surely you have the time.

If you don't, then never complain, it will be your own fault.

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stop complaining and do your bit. even if it doesn't help much, it is still better than nothing. hopefully one day it will seap through

jan

I am sorry to reply to this petition and appear to be despondent,it is my EXPERENCE in dealing with DEFRA that we are compleatly ignored,big money wins every time,just look at Brenard Mathews total whitewash,i wish you luck with your petition and just hope that it receives the answers you deserve == PAT
 

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Agreed,i have had dealings with DEFRA for 25 years,so allthough i basically am with you all the way you are dealing with civil servants,and yes i also accpet we elected this government do you realy think they listen to us,once elected we are only listened to when they need our vote,look at the fox hunting debate,cruel or not,take the road priceing we all petitioned that, now when you look on the main roads look for the navy blue poles and the camera on top,government says we will not introduce pay as you drive,so why then are they still erecting them? and before you all jump down my throat,i have signed the petition as i have signed every other petition that has required signing == PAT
 
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