[mark333]

Doubles ...........

Now its a bit of a touchy subject ...

Is a double fig , lure caught shore caught bass still the holy grail ................

now i know those that dont have one , normally say , i dont give a monkeys what size i catch , i just love all size bass ...

(now im happy catching a 2 pound bass as much as an 8 ) but is any one honest enough out there to say they would love one under there belt ...

I have been LUCKY enough to have had a fair few lure caught , and LOTS shore bait caught , but please , you have to realise i have spent a HUGE section of my life

sat behind rods , four day shore trips , whole week ends , 3 rods , live baits etc , so for hrs spent 20 odd doubles is a poor return imho ...

5 days a week , 6 hr trips for years on the lures , best tides times , missed weddings , christnings , birthdays ,etc etc

not going to wait 5 weeks for perfect tide , for someone to be getting married to ruin it ...........

And its that selfishness , ( and i am a selfish git when it comes to my fishing ) that gets results , )

the bait fishing taught me what time BIG FISH turned up on marks , to the nearest 10 mins ON A POINT OF TIDE ...

iT WAS A HUGE LEARNING CURVE

I feel for people like Henry Gilby , fishes with some of the best bass anglers in Ireland , doubles being pulled out around him , still not got one ..

Im sure he WILL get a HUGE one , law of averages says that he is put in the best areas , at the best times he HAS to get one one day ..

But if you talk to him ( nice chap , ) he would tell you e does not give a monkeys , a double would mean nothing to him ...

So there for , the bass double is not the holy grail to him ...........

but is that far easier to say , for people that dont have one ....

To me a bass over ten pounds in weight WILL ALWAYS BE A HUGE DEAL , there rare from the shore , and getting rarer IMHO ..

Sorry i didnt include boat caught doubles in this , i have so many of them , i stopped counting ..

Skippers son had a 15 plus and a 12 plus on his first EVER trip out , and his first TWO DROPS so sorry but its hard to count them .....

So is a shore caught lure caught double a holy grail to YOU ...

Would a shore bait caught one do ... :kissing:

Good luck to all ....

may your dreams and wishes come true .......




Ps to all those that just say its the being there , and you dont even care if you catch a bass at all ......


Total RESPECT .... :clap3::notworthy

 

[Nick Phillips]

Mark I think you are talking about a different sort/style of boat fishing.

 

[Guest]

I had a shore double to bait, it was a great fish but not my best.I don't think it would have made any difference if it had come to a lure.For me the result is the fish not the method it comes to.I have caught many bass to lures but don't feel they are better fish for that.
Maybe I'm just not into lures a the be all and end all.It's just another method to me and I enjoy all methods.

 

[Gregsie]

Quantity for me first Mark and still to master even moderate numbers on a consistant basis, that said its would be a lie if didnt said a double wasnt on the to do list, Wrighty came very close last year and they are around the marks I fish for sure, plenty caught on boats, within casting distance too.

When your talking Bass over 10lb - what percentage do you land and what percentage shake the hook or snap you off?

My mate Will had a big un on once and it ran, took loads of drag and shook the hooks out of its gob, we went back the next week and I caught one about 6lb at EXACTLY the same state of tide (1 hour and 5 mins after low) and mine was knowhere near as big.

Someone said that only 2 in 10 doubles get landed which seems low to me.

 

[tompakes]

Can catch them easily enough down here, mostly all come to bait (80%+) but in my group of anglers there is always a couple on the lures each season always seem to come from marks in the same small area. We get quite a few swimming around near the surface in the marina too but they are such fussy buggers I tend to just leave them to it (the only thing I've seen them actively chase was a drifting pea I was trying to tempt the mullet with, you could quite easily lose you mind fishing for that lot I have been seriously eying up spear guns). I can't say I'm too bothered about doubles though give me an 8lb'er over a 12 any day of the week they fight so much harder.

 

[martinw]

My fishing started on the river lea bleak bashing (I was 5) I have grown out of that. BUT maybe at the moment I am sadly still at that stage with Bass!!! I would love a double but I havn't stopped enjoying working out marks and what ever comes along is good enough for now! I really am not bothered enough to pay someone to put me on big fish I might have a guide to reinforce my technique and maybe to improve my water craft but I would love to find that once in a life time fish for my self. I also don't target areas where people go schoolie bashing!
At present I have one or two marks worked out in Suffolk. and now I fish a short section of Dorset coastline it looks Ok and produces a few fish. Next time down I am looking at fishing a different section of coast and trying to work that out all fun but not expecting the BIG one. I really don't put in the hours to deserve a double it would purely be luck. I certainly feel that being taken to a mark, pointed in the right diection, lure chosen for me, told how to work it helped to land it is really cheating!

 

[SeaCoarseGame]

Doubles ...........

Now its a bit of a touchy subject ...

Is a double fig , lure caught shore caught bass still the holy grail ................

now i know those that dont have one , normally say , i dont give a monkeys what size i catch , i just love all size bass ...

(now im happy catching a 2 pound bass as much as an 8 ) but is any one honest enough out there to say they would love one under there belt ...

I have been LUCKY enough to have had a fair few lure caught , and LOTS shore bait caught , but please , you have to realise i have spent a HUGE section of my life

sat behind rods , four day shore trips , whole week ends , 3 rods , live baits etc , so for hrs spent 20 odd doubles is a poor return imho ...

5 days a week , 6 hr trips for years on the lures , best tides times , missed weddings , christnings , birthdays ,etc etc

not going to wait 5 weeks for perfect tide , for someone to be getting married to ruin it ...........

And its that selfishness , ( and i am a selfish git when it comes to my fishing ) that gets results , )

the bait fishing taught me what time BIG FISH turned up on marks , to the nearest 10 mins ON A POINT OF TIDE ...

iT WAS A HUGE LEARNING CURVE

I feel for people like Henry Gilby , fishes with some of the best bass anglers in Ireland , doubles being pulled out around him , still not got one ..

Im sure he WILL get a HUGE one , law of averages says that he is put in the best areas , at the best times he HAS to get one one day ..

But if you talk to him ( nice chap , ) he would tell you e does not give a monkeys , a double would mean nothing to him ...

So there for , the bass double is not the holy grail to him ...........

but is that far easier to say , for people that dont have one ....

To me a bass over ten pounds in weight WILL ALWAYS BE A HUGE DEAL , there rare from the shore , and getting rarer IMHO ..

Sorry i didnt include boat caught doubles in this , i have so many of them , i stopped counting ..

Skippers son had a 15 plus and a 12 plus on his first EVER trip out , and his first TWO DROPS so sorry but its hard to count them .....

So is a shore caught lure caught double a holy grail to YOU ...

Would a shore bait caught one do ... :kissing:

Good luck to all ....

may your dreams and wishes come true .......




Ps to all those that just say its the being there , and you dont even care if you catch a bass at all ......


Total RESPECT .... :clap3::notworthy

It's all a case of perspective Mark. I think for those of you who live near or on the coast and do a lot of Bass fishing the yearning for a bigger fish i.e. the magical double will be something you ultimately gravitate to. Once you've caught quatities of fish - 10, 20, 30, 40 in a session - the next logical stepping stone is to start to think bigger, you want something more and different from your session to make it stand out. We all adjust our goals as we achieve the easier ones it's human nature.

For those just starting out lure fishing for Bass (it could be any fish and any method), making that first catch is the all important goal, once that's done what's next? Catching every session, then catching more every session, then setting a catch target - we start to be competitive with ourselves (if we're not careful).

Now for me a 10lb+ Bass would be a massive moment - I've never had one, so I'm not going to say it wouldn't be a big day, it would, but you see I don't get the chance often enough to fish for Bass as it is so to an extent it is the 'being there'. Don't get me wrong, blanking isn't what I set out to do so making a catch changes the day significantly, but being landlocked (and you can't get much more landlocked than me) means I can't just whizz down my favourite mark on the best tide and weather conditions, I have to grab my chances when I can. This in itself changes things, I might get a good tide, I might get a bad one, it might be sunny/raining/snowing and the water might be clear or it could be like soup, sometimes I go on a risk as I'm close enough to the coast when on business to take a chance.

Those new Dads who previously could have popped out for a quick session, virtually at the drop of a hat, know what I mean. Suddenly they have other responsibilities and their life has changed dramatically. I think if you asked them about a double they wouldn't be bothered, they'll be grateful to just wet a line!

So for me mate, yes, 'being there' is a reward in itself, catching something just makes it better. Do I need a double - no, would I like a double, I'd be lying if I said no, but in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter and I don't need the bragging rights (but I might take a picture!). Bigger problem is I generally don't carry any scales so there'd always be a question mark!

SCG :thumbs:

 

[36381]

Start with just want to be out catching them regularly. Once the fish come then for sure a pb would be very nice. I've lost 2 doubles one 20 year ago trying to lift it out the water on a redgill by the gillplate, and 1 2 years back head went to sh1t felt like a seal on the line then in rolled on the surface. I don't reckon we have a lot of doubles round here looking at peeps best fish, meaning peeps who fish a lot and do well it's usually 8-9lb, although these genuine bass not Billy bulsh1t weights, sure some would rate them as doubles. Can think of 3 doubles last few years that are kosher

 

[makemineadouble]

My friend simon had two on a dexter wedge in 1994 ten feet off the end of a groyne, the fight from both was dissapointed, as were mine, I hope when a lure caught doublecomes to all of you, you arent dissapointed, in my experience, big girls are lazy fish,, i reckon they will ambush more than hunt,I work on effort equals reward for their feeding habits,,,,, that bieng said, back then, the gear was hardly considered sporting compared to todays,, I wish you all the "holy grail"on a lure

 

[jeffjeff]

i would like to catch 1 thats for sure but its not the holy grail to me. i would much rather have a 5lb + plaice from the beach

 

[bruvahaze]

I recon a lure caught 10lb plus bass is the holy grail.... So far it has eluded me but this season I'm gonna get myself one. I Lost a sub of a fish last year, got to see it but couldn't land it with the amount of swell running... Not gonna let that happen this year!!!! I can't wait to get into some again.. It's been a long three months waiting to wet a line!!

 

[Bass.com]

Lucky enough to get one in my first season, had it off the top on a Gunfish, at a mark I scouted out myself. I was fishing alone and the only thing that detracts from the experience was not having anybody to take the glory shot holding her. People might say it's not important to them, not many who have caught one say that. The opportunity's are few and far between, ( Unless your HG who is lucky enough to Fish so much in Eire, with great local rods, at prime times), got to keep claim and do what's required when you hook up, none of that shaking legs b******ks.

 

[cod god]

not really gonna break my heart if I dont get one as sometimes the trying is more fun than the getting and cant truthfully say if it'll be worth it until I get 1, but think theres always part of my mind in the excitement before a session were I think this could be that day where they're crawling up the rod an not 1 is below 8lb but if it came would it be mission accomplished?
I done that with mullet ,made getting one a priority and they stuffed me for months an I loved it but when I finally got a decent one I honestly thought what was all the fuss about, an okay fight but barbel smash them to bits imo and resulted in me not picking the mullet rod up since so I dont want the same to happen to my bassin'

 

[startmeup]

Done doubles from both the shore, river and the boat on lures. Mind you trying to negotiate a double figure fish on a 5-25 spinning rod on my own over a reef with exposed pinicales isn't easy.

Boat fishing for bass isn't drop it down and hope, there is a hell of a lot of work goes into sussing marks out, negotiating wind and tides to set the drifts up etc. I know a lot of people who blank regularly on the reefs I fish because they think its easy?

It's not!!!

 

[tompakes]

Done doubles from both the shore, river and the boat on lures. Mind you trying to negotiate a double figure fish on a 5-25 spinning rod on my own over a reef with exposed pinicales isn't easy.

Boat fishing for bass isn't drop it down and hope, there is a hell of a lot of work goes into sussing marks out, negotiating wind and tides to set the drifts up etc. I know a lot of people who blank regularly on the reefs I fish because they think its easy?

It's not!!!

Not only do they blank they lose A LOT of gear.
I remember fishing a mark last year alongside a recreational boat, he could see us catching fish and positioned himself on the same wreck or so we thought after about an hour of him not catching I assumed something was up so went to check what he was drifting over, turned out he was right where the wreck marker was on the chart a fair way off any structure (they aren't neccessarily marked in the right position) hadn't even bothered to look at the sounder.

 

[lipslicker]

Have to say, I would be struggling to wipe the grin off my face for a month. Would totally make my year.
The reason I think it would be so much more of a deal on lures is the nature of the rods. And 8lb pollock on a lure rod is a completely different ball park to one caught on a TT Lite, for instance. And, if I had caught my 13lb salmon on a rock rod, I am guessing it would have been landed in not much longer than a minute. And, I think a 2lb mackerel gives a much, much better fight than a 2lb bass.
Compared with those fish, I sadly think the fight will be a huge disappointment.
But, the joy would be in the rarity mainly. Being able to say you have done it. Listing it.
I cannot promise here and now, but I might not even keep it?

 

[hennie]

had one [debatable] happened so long ago now7 maybe 8 year ago,..from the rocks..

id be a lair if i said i don't care for a double figure bass,..
is it the holy grail...no being able to go fishing is the holy grail for me..
gets harder every year..f### i hate getting old.
there must be others:... in there mid 50's who feel the same as me..:wheelchai

 

[manictoo]

I cannot lie

To catch a double is the holy grail.:1a:

Numbers would be fun but then size does matter.::bounce::bounce:

Whilst you can enjoy the whole journey / experience, we are kidding ourselves:bangin:
if we say we don't want to catch more, but more or more desirable bigger
bass.

 

[manictoo]

had one [debatable] happened so long ago now7 maybe 8 year ago,..from the rocks..

id be a lair if i said i don't care for a double figure bass,..
is it the holy grail...no being able to go fishing is the holy grail for me..
gets harder every year..f### i hate getting old.
there must be others:... in there mid 50's who feel the same as me..:wheelchai

Hennie you are still a TOY BOY

Have to agree, I hate getting old:giveup:

 

[shandybass]

The holy grail for me would be 10lb plus bass,lure caught, off the top from the shore..