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I have always been one of those fishermen that get onto a beach bait up and heave ho as far as i can chuck it. Now clearly my results show that is perhaps not the best approach. So wondered, if you go onto a beach your not familier with, and can see no obvious feature. How do you go about finding a fishing range. Do you have a set plan for finding it, or is it just trial and error?
 
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My tactic is to target the fish rather than the mark.The fish behave the same all over the country, this is why they take similar baits in similar conditions.If I'm after flatfish, I'll fish in close (except plaice) if I'm after rays, I'll fish at distance.I think lots of people have fallen into the trap of thinking all fish must be far out, so they have to cast as far as they can.
 

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I very rarely fish for flatties. I like to fish for something that's going to pull back.

Unless i'm fishing somewhere like Orford where you can catch pretty close in, then in the absense of obvious features or local knowledge I have a simple starting point, which is as far from me as possible.
 

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I have always been one of those fishermen that get onto a beach bait up and heave ho as far as i can chuck it. Now clearly my results show that is perhaps not the best approach. So wondered, if you go onto a beach your not familier with, and can see no obvious feature. How do you go about finding a fishing range. Do you have a set plan for finding it, or is it just trial and error?
It's always trial and error. Different baits and different size baits at different distances. And that often applies to beaches you do know.

Fish are largely unpredictable and successful anglers are constantly trying new tactics when results are not as expected.
 

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Feature finding is something that I don't see much information on, other than looking for gullies, groins, sand bars. For me I go by what species im likely to catch at the time of year, and conditions im fishing in. Its a good question, and think there is much to learn from finding features on what would seem to most be a featureless beach. If im not sure whats about taking into account the time of year and conditions, the 3 hook flapper comes out, I cast it very close in to start with, 40 yards maybe. The second rod id put a clip down rig, bigger hooks and bait right out as far as I can. After each cast the rod further out I cast closer in, and the rod that was close in I out further out until im onto something.

In early Feb, I went fishing locally, and saw there was a nice surf, steady onshore wind, and only had one rod with me. While tempting to put it out, I put it about 40 yards into the surf, caught a 6lb Bass. Second cast I put out was the same distance and got another but small Bass. after that nothing, so I started putting it out further and from memory had a few whiting. If I had hit it out first cast I would have missed the catch of the day. When I see nobody else catching, and im not getting anything close in either, I dont mess about, I hit it as far as I can if I only have one rod. In such times distance saves me a blank, and it has often got me the same as others are catching around me, but bigger fish, specially whiting, had some huge ones last year at distance.

I think for a Angler who has learnt to cast well, its all too easy to want to cast into the horizon, but think some of the best fish are missed if your only fishing one rod, and haven't any idea what your targeting. Talking to fishing shops, iv been told more than a few times that the holiday makers get some of the best catches because they haven't a clue how to cast, and end up dropping the bait in very close.
 

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You'd be overcasting the fish on some of the beaches I fish!
Quite believe it. When I first started fishing my catch rate was awful, main reason was wrong rigs, poor quality bait, wrong location at the wrong time. My focus was then turned to distance, didn't make any difference until I stared sorting the other things out, distance has caught me some unreachable fish, but only accounts for a small percentage of my catches. Iv blanked with my mate even with the bait at crazy distances.

Love to have a guide show me in my area how to read features, and where in the sea to put my bait. Maybe il be that person for someone else in years to come.
 

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Agree u got to have an idea what u fishing for, what u hope to catch why u chose that place. F it's shallow Sandy surf beech either back of the wash or where the lw Mark is.
As above also I find any break in the beach such as just where the shingle breaks into a sandy bottom is a goo spot to drop your bait...
 

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Agree u got to have an idea what u fishing for, what u hope to catch why u chose that place. F it's shallow Sandy surf beech either back of the wash or where the lw Mark is.
I've always been fascinated when fishing "Atlantic Storm Beaches" to see fish scooting back out to sea in the backwash. I've seen both bass and golden grey mullet do this.
 

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Another good tip is to final check the bag before leaving Home driving and walking incase the rig box is still in the front room like it was this evening.
Now that would make a good thread all on it's own. Reakon we have all done simalar at some point. Hope you hadn't gone to far...I remember my dad taking me as a child to some place up north Greenode or something like that. to fish for flounders. Had been driving for what seemed hours, got to the mark and realized i'd lost the handle off my new reel. Dad not best pleased. And understandably made me watch him bag up. Never once let me have a go. Boy did i blub. Until i got the obligotory "knock that off lad before i give you something to blub for" I miss my Dad.
 

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Another good tip is to final check the bag before leaving Home driving and walking in case the rig box is still in the front room like it was this evening.
Done that a few times. Even got as far as walking down the beach to then twig I haven't actually got my bait pump, or bait. Done the same when I had set my one rod iv taken that day, and the reel had the handle missing that I put on another reel. I could write a whole story on the misfortunes as well of loosing a fair bit of gear.
 

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sounds crazy but google the venue and species time of year etc. you will be sup prised how many people on one forum or another will make reference to catches on specific marks or areas. if nothing else it will give you a starting point. Or if you have the time take a walk and see what others who are fishing are doing. Sea anglers in general are much more approachable than other types :) and will be happy to share tips and give advice.
and if still in doubt visit the LOCAL angling shop they are always a mine of information and could even supply you with that one missing item, bait or tackle, that could lower the odds of a blank
 
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