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Edgey continued his practice of being a Club Tart by joining Sharkboy’s club Boscombe and Southbourne Angling Club today.

Went out with the Phil, Chris, Gary, Mathew (Phil’s son), Peter and Steve today on Pat Manley’s boat M.V. Ooker out of Poole today.

The total catch was 144 Bream, 1 Goby, 1 dogfish, 1 garfish, 3 Wrasse. 12 Bream I think, were kept, certainly not more.

Chris caught an incredible 63 of them, on at least two occasions each being double and triple shots.

Edgey had a 900% increase in turnover on his first Bream trip a week ago, by catching 9 to about 2lbs, all returned. Freezer is full at the moment.

The weather was fantastic, the company great and the Skipper Pat, certainly knew what he was doing. We were hemmed in by some 25 other boats, most of whom were not more than about 40 yards from us, yet Pat put us on two cracking spots and we almost certainly caught the most fish. Only two anglers, (not me) lost two rigs between them all day.

Gary was the loser for the day with one Bream, but it was his first trip out.

Most successful bait was undoubtedly Chris with his cuttle fish and rag cocktails. Others were using squid, squid and rag or plain rag.

I used combinations of all three, but the most successful for me was a tip I picked up from Peter Churchill the week before, which was squid heads, sliced in half long ways. I didn’t have any cuttle-fish, but next time I will find some some-where, any one know of any suppliers, please let me know.

P.S. The club are looking for new members and the average trip costs only £24.00 plus bait. Membership is £12.00
 

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Oh dear another controversy started

All but about a dozen that were males only, were returned.

Of the other 25 boats, and this is the first time I have ever fished there, only as far as I could see, 3 were charters, the rest were private boats.

Every one used T Bars to unhook fish, not that we were asked to do so. None were weighed as it was a numbers comp. If we had slaughtered 144 fish fair enough, I am sorry but I disagree with the remarks about commercials fundamentally.

More than 500 times of that amount would have been killed in single trawl, had some one been minded to do so.

This is what being an RSA is about surely.

But what the hell, I had an an enjoyable day, I caught 9 fish, all returned.

There were 7 rods there and it was a intra-club competition.

If people think I have committed some heinous offence, I am not sorry, tough. I had a damn good day's fishing.
 

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Looking forward to it Ron, can you PM me some dates? As for therapy, I totally agree, I am now suffering from post traumatic fish disorder, or a bad case of addiction.
 

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Hi Edgey

How did you get on with Pat?
I've heard that he is actually a very good charter skipper, but by 'eck he doesn't half drivel on the VHF.
Please would someone tell him it isn't his personal radio frequency!
Very well, but then he was kept very busy writing down the scores as fish poured over the side in their thousands. LOL.

Lord knows how old he is, but his experience shows he obviously knows where to put people. I will not post publicly his trick, but it was excellent.
 

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I have just about heard it all now! one minute people are getting told off for taking too many home, then someone actually finds the idea of catching too many wrong. so you pay your money and catch a shed load, return them but stop as you have caught enough? what you meant to do then?, Go Home?
I personally think fishing for pleasure (not for the pot) is a silly idea, but i have to say i really cannot get my head around that statement :blink:
I would have kept one or two, but as the Boss has filled the freezer from sainsburys and I have a fish in there as well, we only have a small freezer, I did not want to waste fish that I would not freeze immediately or eat straight away.

Also as I understand it, if you have caught enough for your needs one is asked in the interests of conservation either to stop fishing or fish catch and release. As the comp was a points comp, with only those fish that people wanted to eat being kept, then I fail to understand the point of view that now we should go out for the day, catch one fish and then return home.

I am going to fish for Cod from Orford on the 24th April. Last time I caught 9 and returned 6, should I this time pack up as soon as I catch the first, which last time was at 4pm and then wait 15 1/2 hours to be collected? Or should I continue to fish, return those that I don't want, and if I catch something I like fillet and release!!!!!!
 

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Edgey i was not having a pop at you mate, i just did not get anywhere near understanding that last daft comment about stopping and moving on even if you put them back, Sites gone mad! mad i say!

I know old Buddy, I was apologise if it looked as if it were to you, I am irritated by the criticism from the other two posters however.

We have followed the rules slavishly and as far as I am concerned wholeheartedly and happily as I agree with them; we do this for a hobby and now I have been slammed for being greedy.

How many shore comps return every fish successfully, bar those that are kept for the pot, a lot less than we did I would suspect.

The fact that the Bream are about in such numbers is GOOD NEWS, not bad news and as long as the policies set out above are followed there is no reason why they will not get better.
 

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People who catch 63 mackerel on Chesil would be described as irresponsible macky-bashers and it would be argued that no one should need to catch that many.
The original post did not mention a match and your emotive comment about "have committed some heinous offence" does not help a discussion; no one said it was a heinous offence; I would get bored after a dozen even with bream. If fishing was easy I would not bother with it, if mackererel or bream or any other fish are shoaled up like that the challenge of catching is no longer there. If you are over a shoal of bream and move the bait slighly you are likely to get a take every time, a fish a chuck. It becomes a mechanical chore rather than an exciting pursuit of fish.
Perhaps matches would be better if a limit of, say, six fish of each species were allowed in the scoring process as is common in beach matches.
I have my opinion, you have yours, the forum is for an interchange of ideas and opinions, not for wars to break out. Rob has put forward a comment which goes some way towards reassuring me on the catch and release of bream, but as I said, the bream are there to breed.... that is why they shoal up, and disturbance cannot help the situation.

I respect your right to your opinion Haddock. But why it was necessary for me to have to explain there was a competition that day is quite beyond me. I equally am entitled to my opinion and being made to feel guilty for my day out, was the reason I posted that which I did.

In my opinion, I am sorry to say, you made me feel as if I and the people with whom I was fishing had committed a heinous offence.

Are not your words:

“and we recreational sea anglers banging on about the commercial guys messing up fish stocks. Surely a few each and then move on would be better for the fish, they may go back but do they survive ? It sure as hell would interupt my breeding to be dragged off, even if I was allowed to continue afterwards.!”;

just as emotive?

If you set up a comp and want to make those rules fine, please feel free.

If I go out for a day's fishing and am told that once I have caught and released 6 fish, and or taken my limit for my own consumption and therefore have to sit out the rest of the day, I shall be of the opinion that I will not take part in it.
 
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