Mending line in the surf is a real pain, especially when you've got a long line out and/or the bass are marauding after fast moving shoals of bait and everything changes very quickly.What Merlin says. Floating lines are fine in a swell as long as you mend the line over the waves as they break. Good line management is essential.
I and lots of other people do this every week when we go fishing? Picking up floating line to recast to sighted fish is alot easier than sinking lines. Also when there's weed about you can ONLY fish with a floating line. Also how do you mend a intermediate to fish dead drift? And finally intermediates aren't much use when its very shallow.Mending line in the surf is a real pain, especially when you've got a long line out and/or the bass are marauding after fast moving shoals of bait and everything changes very quickly.
Do they? When you're giving out advice like this its best to consider what works best in the majority of situations. there aren't any fly lines i can think of that are designed for Bass. Striped bass are a similar species so it could be an idea to look there. All the full length fly lines that i can think of designed for stripers are intermediates (except for one orvis line -I think- which is designed for flats fishing in any case). The only other striper specific floaters I've seen are part of shooting head packages.I and lots of other people do this every week when we go fishing? ..
This may be so, but I think the advantages of contact to the fly through chop etc far out weigh the disadvantages.Picking up floating line to recast to sighted fish is alot easier than sinking lines. ..
If you think this is a common situation why recommend clouser minnows? I know they fish barb up, but wouldn't an unweighted fly tied weedless be a better option?Also when there's weed about you can ONLY fish with a floating line. ..
My point was that mending the line is not the best, or an, option in the majority of situations. Yes, fishing drift, line parallel to the wave front or in rips, a floating line is the best option -but I don't think clouser minnows are the best option in these situations.Also how do you mend a intermediate to fish dead drift? ..
The intermediates I use are fine in shallow water with unweighted flies.And finally intermediates aren't much use when its very shallow.
How charming! You're not grasping the point I'm trying to make. A lot of striper fisherman write that if they could only have one line it would be an intermediate. Looking at the lines available, these people are in the majority over there, for what thats worth (there seems to be a great amount of heated controversey over there though).Sorry mate but you are talking complete boll ocks.
You can use standard freshwater lines in the salt. I use Snowbee XS floaters and inters and have done for years. 'Cold Saltwater' branded lines are often too stiff and coil in UK waters, the SA Striper taper to name one. I cut back the front taper on the snowbee lines and they are the best I've used to date. 'Saltwater' lines just have more exagerated tapers.
Clousers have an inherent sinking action, the jigging generaly comes from you stripping the line.Clousers have inherent jig action that works and I would bet they account for more fish than any other pattern in the uk.
Here are some pics of fish caught on dead drifted clousers across structure using floating line:
superb advice there steve,thanks very much matey,gagging for a go now,but theres so much stuff that you need to take into consideration,but im sure that itl be worth the wait when I hook one.Hi Dils
If you are thinking of tackling Anglesey. then there is a case for both floating and intermediate lines because of the variety of marks at that venue.
I know several bass anglers who fish the N. Wales and Anglesey area and they use a floater around 80% of the time over shallow, snaggy ground, switching to an intermediate for the deeper marks.
I would think that for a beginner a 8wt floating line would be easier to control, assuming you have no fly fishing experience at all, using a 7 - 9ft leader of 20lb mono straight through. Longer leaders are harder to control and cast, especially if it is at all windy.
I use the Snowbee SW floater too and like Flyguy have chopped around 3 metres off the front end. You don't need the long taper for UK bass, pollock, scad and mackerel and the line will load easier with a shorter taper.
Clousers fish fine on this set-up, but don't use a fly which is over-dressed. Many of the fly-only guys have found that clousers with sparsely tied materials will often work better than a fly with loads of flashy material.
You can buy sparsely tied clousers from www.uksaltwaterflies.com and there are some good on-line articles on saltwater fly fishing on that site too.
If you choose the intermediate set-up, then you could try a sandeel pattern (again, sparse tying) or a deceiver pattern, but these larger flies may be harder to cast and a shorter leader of 25lb mono might prove easier to manage.
When you get a bite, don't strike by lifting the rod (like you would with most other forms of fishing), but strip-strike by pulling the line back sharply with your retreiving hand. This will set the hook far better than striking with the rod. Lots of beginners to swffing complain that they get bites but miss them and this is the most common reason.