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Decided to try a different type of fishing Phil the floats' posts persuaded me that this might be a laugh so off I went to the Rols Royce driver and bought a couple of floats and some weights and things - as you do. Was going to fish the Gower but decided due to lack of time to head for BurryPort arrived at low water so I thought I'd pick some crab in case the sandeels I bought wouldn't last - has everyone been there cos only managed to find half a dozen in an hour :( . Undaunted I went over to the other side of the breakwater and sat to set up my float rig... why is there no eye at the bottom? after a few minutes thought I cut a short length of 30lb mono passed it through the float ( it had a hole from top to bottom) and put a swivel at either end then passed my my mainline through the bottom swivel and I'm away to go. Cast out and the whole thing disappeared under the water - luckily I had a bigger float so set up the whole malarky again and cast out, success but it kept disappearing round the corner tried this set up for a while but then thought 'bugger it spinnings' the way to go so swapped my rig for a Dexter wedge - no success on that but a load of weed so I thought I'd try my new macky feathers and cast them out - just more weed right I'll move down a bit after this cast - couldn't as a couple had taken that spot first cast she has 3 mack on the one trace - what did I do? cast out twice and cross first her and then hubbys' lines then lost the lot when my line got caught in the line keeper on my reel - then lost another lure for the same reason. A very nice boy then came past and gave me his rag cos he was going home so I set up my second rod to ledger worm bait - and then I tried crab.... and then sandeel and spun anything I could get my hands on - and then some bugger walked past saying it was poor tonight cos he only had 6 mackeral. So I decided to call it a night and as I walked back - after consigning all my bait to the deep the only other guy on the breakwater was reeling in a Bass of about 3lb. I give up I really do
 

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it happens..

thursday evening,,i go fishing..and try everything,,and blank..

Friday..i go to london for the day..come back,only to find my ole mate mattrich went fishing..and bagged a tump of mackeral,,along with everyone else on the pier!!..the water was boiling with them apparently..(and i saw the evidence,,so it wasent a yarn)

so,,after 3 hrs kip,,i get up at 3am this morning(saturday),,to catch the morning HT,,only to bag 7 macks..my brother had couple..but that was it...


the law of sod is in full swing in this game mate
 
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paid4tackledealersroller said:
Decided to try a different type of fishing Phil the floats' posts persuaded me that this might be a laugh so off I went to the Rols Royce driver and bought a couple of floats and some weights and things - as you do. Was going to fish the Gower but decided due to lack of time to head for BurryPort arrived at low water so I thought I'd pick some crab in case the sandeels I bought wouldn't last - has everyone been there cos only managed to find half a dozen in an hour :( . Undaunted I went over to the other side of the breakwater and sat to set up my float rig... why is there no eye at the bottom? after a few minutes thought I cut a short length of 30lb mono passed it through the float ( it had a hole from top to bottom) and put a swivel at either end then passed my my mainline through the bottom swivel and I'm away to go.
The hole through the center is where you thread the line
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Cast out and the whole thing disappeared under the water - luckily I had a bigger float so set up the whole malarky again and cast out, success but it kept disappearing round the corner tried this set up for a while
Easy, just change to a lighter weight, generally, the weight rating is on the float, unless you buy the kit, then the weight is supplied. That is why I buy floats that I know the weight rating of.

I use the Fox Pike Systtem, XL[/b} pike deadbait and livebait sliders. These take a 1 ounce weight to cok them perfectly. These have holes through the center, for normall sliding if you are some way above the sea or, a hole at the bottom for normal waggler operation
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but then thought 'bugger it spinnings' the way to go so swapped my rig for a Dexter wedge - no success on that but a load of weed so I thought I'd try my new macky feathers and cast them out - just more weed right I'll move down a bit after this cast - couldn't as a couple had taken that spot first cast she has 3 mack on the one trace - what did I do? cast out twice and cross first her and then hubbys' lines then lost the lot when my line got caught in the line keeper on my reel - then lost another lure for the same reason. A very nice boy then came past and gave me his rag cos he was going home so I set up my second rod to ledger worm bait - and then I tried crab.... and then sandeel and spun anything I could get my hands on - and then some bugger walked past saying it was poor tonight cos he only had 6 mackeral. So I decided to call it a night and as I walked back - after consigning all my bait to the deep the only other guy on the breakwater was reeling in a Bass of about 3lb. I give up I really do
Do not give up on float fishing, it is often under-estimated style fo sea fishing.
 

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I fished Swansea pier from low to high on Friday one rod on bottom one on float, Guy next to me the same and my lad on float as well. Bottom fishing was a waste of time not even a growl of the dogs just the one fish that I havent yet identified for sure but suspect it might have been a very young tub of about 5 ". Float fishing was great fun on light gear didn't take many mackerel home, lost quite a few trying to get them up but had good sport. Used mackerel and 1/2 sand eel baits. I did try feathering but strangely nothing doing.I think we were picking up stragglers of what looked to be a big shoal out by the lighthouse.
 
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Float fishing does work under the right conditions, the area byt the lighthouse on the Wesr Pier is where I lost a bass of about 2 1/2lb on float!

It is good fun on light gear, especially when you mackerel on, with the rod bent and bucking like a wild thing!
 

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paidfor, get yourself down to rhossili ledges around high water - as many macks as you want. Quite small tho' - returned about 37, kept 3 for eating they're very close in.
 

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You can use your standard beachcaster for float fishing, particularly if its the only one you've taken down with you! If you intend to use 2ozs or more to cast out then you'll need a pretty big float (try a balloon as they do when shark fishing.)

However horses for courses! If the macky are in then use your spinners/feathers! If you intend to fish around pier legs and have the bait moving then just use enough weight to **** the float. The idea of the hole through the float is to enable you to fish it as a slider. The depth is set by tying a stop knot on the line at the depth you think the fish are feeding (it will slide easily through the rod eyes). You should be able to move the knot about as you experiment with depth. If you use a more specialist rod (i've got a 17' float rod ( Assasin 11 £35), and a 15' feeder rod (Shimano Hyperloop £40), both designed to be used for carp, so plenty of grunt!) then I can set the float at a depth LESS than the length of the rod. I either use a quill type waggler float threaded on through the small eye at the base and secured with a split shot, put on loosely so you can move them, either side of the eye, or I use two pieces of rubber tubing threaded on the line which trap the line on to the top and bottom of the float. Obviously small floats need very little weight to **** them so I tend to use small hooks ( say size 6) and small bait - wriggling ragworm. These I fish off a rocky weedy marks with a little movement of tide, but deep water! My biggest wagglers will allow me to fish a 1" to 11/2" crab on one of those blue Mustad crab hooks. The wrasse love them! I've also got a standard 2.75 TC Carp rod which I use for deadbaiting with a big Pike float (I used to use my Daiwa bass rod for it, which worked fine, but the carp rod, an expensive £20 worth!, is more precise)

I always use my float tackle because I think its the best strategy to use for the venue/state of tide etc. rather than just to be different. Sometimes (off light surf beaches for example) i dispense with the float and fish the same rods using touch as a bite indicator, 20 yds and in. I inevitably catch a lot of little fish, Pouting, whiting, codling, pollack and Wrasse in the half a pound to a pound range, some of which get used for live or deadbaiting on another rod! On those occasions this type of fishing stops me blanking and keeps my old addled brain ticking over!
 

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Thanks for all the advice guys - most appreciated. I will try it again especially as my favourite beach is fishing so poorly recently. i used to do a lot of course fishing and so I thought I had the basics but the slider float threw me a bit ;)
 
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paid4tackledealersroller said:
Thanks for all the advice guys - most appreciated. I will try it again especially as my favourite beach is fishing so poorly recently. i used to do a lot of course fishing and so I thought I had the basics but the slider float threw me a bit ;)
One of my tricks is to forget to put the weight on! DUHHhhhh :(
 

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Phil, have you tried the big Polaris pike floats yet. They are used for float legering but you still get the same buzz watching the float slide away.Only drawback is they cant be used in very deep water.
 
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Not yet, I have a Polaris and a scud float. Havent tried them YET!! Might try them on Thursday at the short with a small weight on it, and live sandeel!

I might fish with 2 float rods!
 

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Give the Polaris a go and let us know how you get on Phil.
I luv em,,float fishing for lazy people :D
 
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I will:

I have a 20G and a 30G Polaris
Also 1 20G Super Skud

It looks as though I will have to take my float tube with me then!

I will also take my Comoran light-weight floats to fish the inside of the short arm close to the end!

So if any of you out want to come down and take the P out of me, you are welcome, I am easily recognised, just have a look at my sig, and it is Very long! If that fails I will be wearing a Penn cap!
 

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I never liked float fishing, one day i took a spinning rod out and tried one didnt catch but my beach caster caght a macky and i put a live one out under float.
I will never go out without one again.
4lb + and what a fight!!!!!!!
 

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Give the Polaris a go and let us know how you get on Phil.
I luv em,,float fishing for lazy people :D

Um isn't that a F***ing nuclear missile; That's cheating guys :)
 
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