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Little introduction. I am “phrozenballs” aka Mark 6ft around 13.7st been kayak fishing for around 20mths now and I am a regular fisherman and I aim to get out once to twice a week and even more at peak times in our seasons . What do I know about kayak fishing ? only what I have learnt over the time I have been doing it although I have been a sea angler for 30 odd years first introduced to it buy my grandfather . I keep seeing the same questions on forums and thought I would type up a little guide all from my own perspectives some may not agree but everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I believe we all learn from each other and from the things we do .

The kayak

Ok your going to need a kayak there are many different brands and types on the market general rule is the longer thinner and lighter the yak the less stamina your going to need to keep it going over long distances . The shorter the yak the more manoeuvrable its going to be . I have a 14ft yak for fishing and a 6ft yak for playing in the surf . There seem to be two leading brands in the UK and they are
Ocean kayak and wilderness systems most popular seem to be the ocean kayak prowler and trident series and the wilderness systems tarpon range although there are other ranges and a lot of other makes too including
Dagger , Feel free , Hobie , Jackson , Liquid Logic , Necky , Peception , P & H , Elie , Venture , Wavesport , Stealth , Prijon , Robson , North Shore , Pelican , Pyranha , Vally , Islander

They are just to name a few before buying one try to get a go on one or two to get a feel of it maybe event try to get in touch with a group of anglers to try different type and get different opinions and see different set ups

The Paddle

You’re also going to need a paddle there are a lot of these on the market . You get a few different types , alloy , glass or carbon or a mix of all three and you can also get foam core paddles too . One of the leading brands seems to be Werner . Lots of different styles too your better going to a stockist and getting some advise on what is good for you

The Clothing

We as kayak fishermen are going to be on the water for long periods so we need good clothing and a PFD (personal floatation devise) . In the summer I use shorts and t shirt or a wet suit all other times it’s the dry suit for the main body . A dry suit with a relief zip is a good idea . Colder months you will need additional footwear , Gloves , Hats and not forgetting Glasses . Again lots of different brands on the market with all of them the only advise I can give is buy the best quality dry suit and PFD you can afford as they might both save your life one day and also buy the best quality neoprene gloves and boots of some sort . Try to keep dry for as long as possible .

On person equipment
Vhf radio ---- for calling the coast guard in an emergency or contacting other boats or persons like harbour masters etc …. You will need a licence http://www.google.co...iw=1920&bih=846
Mobile Phone ---- Best kept in a dry bag http://www.google.co...c.1.ze06rhHxmA4
Pfd ---- A floatation device to help you float if you fall in the water http://www.google.co...gvAL21TU&num=20
Whistle ---- For signalling people http://www.google.co...c.1.LXYkRwO3vqw
Flares ---- as above ( two types day and night ) http://www.google.co...c.1.em72iNsAbBg
Signal mirror , light ---- as above http://www.google.co...c.1.em72iNsAbBg
Knifes and line cutters ---- To cut line in an emergency http://www.google.co...c.1.em72iNsAbBg


On Kayak equipment

Fishing rods and reels https://www.google.c...iw=1197&bih=797
Trolley ---- For transporting your kayak from your car to the beach http://www.google.co...iw=1920&bih=846
Paddle ---- For moving http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=kayak+paddle&hl=en&rlz=1T4GZEZ_en-GBGB285GB285&prmd=imvns&source=univ&tbm=shop&tbo=u&sa=X&ei=ETeYUPnNIKbC0QXf3oHoDg&ved=0CDEQrQQ&biw=1197&bih=797
Leash ---- for not loosing stuff http://www.google.co...iw=1920&bih=846
Rudder ---- For steering https://www.google.c...iw=1197&bih=797
Anchor trolley ---- For moving your anchor line from front to back http://www.google.co...iw=1920&bih=846
Anchor ---- for anchoring https://www.google.c...c.1.CXBGCDAfiYY
Divers reel ---- for anchor line http://www.google.co...iw=1920&bih=846
Bouy for anchor ---- http://www.google.co...iw=1920&bih=846
Fish finder ---- For finding out depth and to aid with fishing http://www.google.co...iw=1920&bih=846
Gps --- For navigation http://www.google.co...iw=1920&bih=846
compass ---- For navigation http://www.google.co...iw=1920&bih=846
Tow rope or throw line ---- To attach yourself to the yak or to aid in being rescued or rescuing http://www.google.co...iw=1197&bih=797 and http://www.google.co...iw=1920&bih=846
Flares --- as above
Spare paddle ---- http://www.google.co...iw=1920&bih=846
Torch or kayak lighting ---- http://www.google.co...iw=1920&bih=846
Camera to photo or video ---- http://www.google.co...iw=1920&bih=846
Sun cream
Spare clothes / cloths
Dry bag ----- http://www.google.co...iw=1920&bih=846
Food and water
Basic first aid stuff

Make sure anything you want to keep is leashed and all of above is just my own opinion of stuff I take out not all of it is essential

Types of fishing

Drift fishing

A lot of anglers do this when lure fishing some use drogues and some go with the flow

Anchored fishing

Static fishing so you get to a mark and drop anchor and position yourself with your anchor trolley , best practiced a few times before you try to fish like it

Trolling fishing

Again usually lure fishing paddling around with a couple of plugs off the back of your kayak


It is advised that we fish in groups but if you do go alone as I often do just make sure you tell some one what time you plan on being off the water and where you plan on going if you have your vhf license check in and out with the coast guard

GOOD LUCK enjoy yourself and catch fish and dont forget everyday is a school day you will learn something new almost everytime you go out and local knowledge is best for the areas your going to fish
 

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If you can add anything lads please do or if theres any bad advise please also point that out
 

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Great post and although a lot of the links don't work i'm sure people can work out how to use google search anyway (although google does miss out a lot of good shops with good prices)

one question i have is how you use the anchor chain you described to 'slowly drift'? Does it not just dig in and stop you or get snagged? I'm just getting started using the anchor so still learning with it. So far i've not fitted a piece of chain as i haven't found it necessary, what does the chain actually do?
 

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i appreciate what it is ur doing,prozen and the time it took to get this together,im not criticizing any off the above,But,..
if u look a bit further down the treads,i have arranged with one of kayak fishing's top lads to do a peace that will go on as a sticky.something that will be there for the new and old .he is oversees at the mo and have promised to do a write up,from setting up to doe's and donts .
pleas dont take this the wrong way,we can ad what u have added here to that im sure off that.
permission have sort off been granted ,Mike will have the final say.im just worried this good info gets lost in the forum like so much other good advice has in the past.:thumbs:

the book that jakker mentioned , is a good pointer. Stuff that can be added to the sticky once its up.:thumbs:
 

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Great post and although a lot of the links don't work i'm sure people can work out how to use google search anyway (although google does miss out a lot of good shops with good prices)

one question i have is how you use the anchor chain you described to 'slowly drift'? Does it not just dig in and stop you or get snagged? I'm just getting started using the anchor so still learning with it. So far i've not fitted a piece of chain as i haven't found it necessary, what does the chain actually do?
not something that is advisable,.. as u pointed out.it can snag.plus it will send most fish running for cover.
dropping an anchor takes practice and is and will remain a dangerous affair of a yak.
a droge is the correct and only thing to use if u want to slow ur drift...sorry prozen.:thumbs:
 

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not something that is advisable,.. as u pointed out.it can snag.plus it will send most fish running for cover.
dropping an anchor takes practice and is and will remain a dangerous affair of a yak.
a droge is the correct and only thing to use if u want to slow ur drift...sorry prozen.:thumbs:
Drouge not advisable where i drift fish if the run of the tide catches hold of it then you will be going warp speed although a drouge should only be used when its wind vs tide otherwise it will make you go quicker , the chain thing yes i do it and its something that has helped slow my drift where i fish i actually have a old railway sleeper bolt on the end too annd i wouldent use it where i knew it would snag . But any critism is welcome btw caught my biggest bass this year with that method of fishing over 9lb

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now that u added a reason it makes more sense ,not so ,..u get a new fella try that and hel. get himself tide up in nets and all sorts,no.
be care full on advice is what im saying ,people sue for less.

to ad,.. a spot that's snag-free today might not be tomorrow.
in a strong current drifting on a rope whit an chain and piece of SLEEPER ,if in the worse case scenario u were to snag up that yak will nose dive before u can cut or release it , i have seen it happen to a boat ,dropped his anchor ,not enough slack,no float to keep his line up and level ,when that rope tightened he just nose dived.fortunately the bracket broke free, ..
not clever sorry.
 

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now that u added a reason it makes more sense ,not so ,..u get a new fella try that and hel. get himself tide up in nets and all sorts,no.
be care full on advice is what im saying ,people sue for less.

to ad,.. a spot that's snag-free today might not be tomorrow.
in a strong current drifting on a rope whit an chain and piece of SLEEPER ,if in the worse case scenario u were to snag up that yak will nose dive before u can cut or release it , i have seen it happen to a boat ,dropped his anchor ,not enough slack,no float to keep his line up and level ,when that rope tightened he just nose dived.fortunately the bracket broke free, ..
not clever sorry.
dropping an anchor takes practice and is and will remain a dangerous affair of a yak.

We can all pick holes in what each other does and we can also all be over opinionated just cause you say its wrong will not stop me from doing it :thumbs: i have edited it out of the top as it had upset you sooo much dooode ( not a sleeper a sleeper bolt lol ) and if you find it dangerous dropping anchor your obviously doing it wrong
 

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I for one have appreciated the advice Phrozenballs has given me since buying a kayak, watched his videos and read what he has to say, can't fault you mate. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

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hi mark,
thanks for taking the time and making the effort to start this thread
as a newcomer to kayak fishing i found it very helpful.
all the best
john
 

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We can all pick holes in what each other does and we can also all be over opinionated just cause you say its wrong will not stop me from doing it :thumbs: i have edited it out of the top as it had upset you sooo much dooode ( not a sleeper a sleeper bolt lol ) and if you find it dangerous dropping anchor your obviously doing it wrong
come on mate, u now its doggy,i do things that's unorthodox but will never mention it here.
ur a good fellah and a helpful one,just reign it in a little.
im chuffed as eck that ur just as keen to get this ting on the right track.
im pretty laid back and if u happen to be this way will gladly show u what iff nothing,i have learned over here in the last 10 years plus.i wont even mention the 30+ before that ,..deel.:thumbs:
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come on mate, u now its doggy,i do things that's unorthodox but will never mention it here.
ur a good fellah and a helpful one,just reign it in a little.
im chuffed as eck that ur just as keen to get this ting on the right track.
im pretty laid back and if u happen to be this way will gladly show u what iff nothing,i have learned over here in the last 10 years plus.i wont even mention the 30+ before that ,..deel.:thumbs:
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Explain why its dodgy as i said earlier in thread im open to criticism and i belive we all learn from it . Stating that you have been kayak fishing for 10 years means nothing to me to be honest , alot of people do this ohhhh i have been kayak fishing for 5 years but then you find out that they get out no more than 10 times a year its hardly experianced is it ?

we can all point out faults in each other like the line by your left foot in these two photos


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But its not somthing i choose to do usually as its better to keep the peace and there is no written rule in this sport no right way no wrong way . What i consider to be dangerous you will do on a daily basis we all have our own opinions . Its easy to point the finger untill it turns on ourselfs . Like i said i removed that little bit of info as it may be a bit iffy for somone who have never done it


Btw if i am in the southern end of the country i will defo hit you up fella and come and steal all the fish from your waters :thumbs:


The biggest advice i could give to some one new to this sport is tag along with people , experianced people if possible
 

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u reed me all wrong mate not piking holes its as u say the info is for complete novices,mainly,u seem capable and practical,and with a good amount off common sense,some of the new fellas dont know what a valve cap is on a bicycle.
if have upset u ,the intention was not such .
good spotting mind u.its a flouting tow rope.and should be in a bag out the way.i wont say what i use it for as well.lol.
i hardly ever bother with reports mate,an have been away from all forums for some time,as i hate the politics that always creeps in.
but its good IT practice and i get to speak to like minded nutters.
i have been out this morning,and will put a report up just for u.lol.
i have trained two fellah's in the basics just last month.from 0 to ok and safe,nether one has ever been on a yak.
they now cant get enough off it.lol ,they are people i know ,wont do it for any one els as i dont have the redtape to go with it.wat i do will be classed as dodgy at the best o times hence the reason i asked some one else to do a sticky.
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very informative read phrozen,thanks for taking the time out to write it,im still learning myself and any information posted on the forum is appreciated,thanks fella.
p.s top vids on youtube:thumbs:
 

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Thanks Phrozenballs for the overview. I am just starting out in Bass fishing and am thinking of the possiblity of Sea Kayaking for next year. When you add everything up that you need like dry suit (was taken aback at how expensive these are), radio and Kayak it looks quite expensive. I reckon I'd be looking at approx £1000 for a everything including a decent Kayak (I know these go to silly money) would you agree?

Sorry for a couple of silly questions but if your rod goes in the rod holder at the back what happens if you capsize? do the rods fall out then?

Also the mark I am thinking of fishing/launching from involves a bit of a walk so are they light enough to carry?

Thanks

Matt
 

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I have to agree that Mark has been a massive help,supplying me with all the info I have asked him for.
Just starting out myself and should be up and running by jan.
Agree its an expensive hobby for the initial outlay but Ive got the kayak and drysuit so thats the two most expensive items done lol.
Another spending spree next month I think.
 

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Thanks Phrozenballs for the overview. I am just starting out in Bass fishing and am thinking of the possiblity of Sea Kayaking for next year. When you add everything up that you need like dry suit (was taken aback at how expensive these are), radio and Kayak it looks quite expensive. I reckon I'd be looking at approx £1000 for a everything including a decent Kayak (I know these go to silly money) would you agree?

Sorry for a couple of silly questions but if your rod goes in the rod holder at the back what happens if you capsize? do the rods fall out then?

Also the mark I am thinking of fishing/launching from involves a bit of a walk so are they light enough to carry?

Thanks

Matt
Budget at least £1,000 to include safety kit, kayak and personal gear
Yes they would fall out but a sensible yakker would have rods on a leash
You can just about carry an empty 20kg yak a few hundred yards if you are fit. However most angling yaks will be heavier than that, and loaded with gear a lot heavier. You can get trolley attachments so you can wheel it along if the path is suitable.
 

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Thanks Phrozenballs for the overview. I am just starting out in Bass fishing and am thinking of the possiblity of Sea Kayaking for next year. When you add everything up that you need like dry suit (was taken aback at how expensive these are), radio and Kayak it looks quite expensive. I reckon I'd be looking at approx £1000 for a everything including a decent Kayak (I know these go to silly money) would you agree?

Sorry for a couple of silly questions but if your rod goes in the rod holder at the back what happens if you capsize? do the rods fall out then?

Also the mark I am thinking of fishing/launching from involves a bit of a walk so are they light enough to carry?

Thanks

Matt
Get a ctug trolley , ive had 3 trolleys ( ruk combi and a ruk through the scupper ) and its by far the best you can carry the kayak by the ctug if its put on properly ... i pully mine over some right rocky terrain .... the alternative is take a look at the ctug and make something simular i know you can get very simular wheels from b & q ..... I personally think you will soon get fed up of carrying it

leash everthing if you want to keep it .... i only use my flush mount rod holders at the back for trolling and transporting my rods i use a ram rod holder the most as its the most universal
 
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