I do a sort of PENDULTHRASH really! Often the shore is steepish behind me so I can't do and OTG so I let it swing! On a shingle beach its often OTG. I tried Over head thumping with the beachcaster once, and lost touch with the lead, it seemed to be still going but then stopped, I waited and then it came down and almost brained me! When I cast with the light rods and fixed spool, I actually do an overhead cast quite successfully using the elasticity of the rod.