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Fished Aberthaw ledges today. On the walk out I could see a boat laying nets in front of the hot water outlets, an area everyone knows is a Bass nursery area. Surely he cant do this. When I took some photos of him he scarpered a bit quick and hovered around Llantwit. His nets, clearly marked with orange buoys were staked out fully enclosing the outlets and the whole bay to the west . A good lead swinger could have cleared them. Anyone know who I could report this too ? . There were quite a few anglers fishing the outlets, I can only hope they shouted to him what I would have.
 

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Did you catch the name of the boat?
This guy is who Defra have told me to contact should I see any illegal fishing activities. Though by all accounts they are not very good at their jobs.



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It would seem various members of the forum are catching illegal activities around out shores, which from what I can gather are not being handled satisfactorily.

Keep all correspondence with the powers that be and ask them how they will follow up the complaint.
If there is a legal loophole, which these trawler men are exploiting, I would like to know about it.
However as it is we employ these bureaucrats and with the weight of voice behind these forums we could put a lot of pressure on our MP’s and MEP’s to act.
At the end of the day they are committing a crime and this should be treated as such?

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I read all the time of individuals getting fined for fishing without a licence on our rivers why are these commercial fishermen slipping the net (pardon the pun) could it be that they are being fined but continuing fishing as the fines are so pathetically weak its worth the risk to fish illegally.

All I know is they are destroying our sport and our marine ecosystems, and the way this government seems to back the capitalist business they will do so until our seas are a simple green liquid slime of algae devoid of all higher life forms.

AARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG And I still can’t catch a bloody fish bigger than a Blenny.

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If anyone had significant evidence keep all the correspondence I’m sure through this site we could compile it and find a decent opposition candidate to hand it to. Or maybe the press.

Something has to be done I seem to be blanking more often than catching (A lot bloody more often) :mad:
 

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hello mud, so you can still fish the outlets then. i thought theyd stopped all that, did you see anyone catching bass there. i avent fished there for years.
 

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Took this from the South Wales Sea Fisheries page:


29. BASS NURSERY AREA-RESTRICTIONS ON FISHING confirmed 14/4/98

No person shall fish for sea fish either from or by using a boat of any description in the fishing operation in the following areas and during the periods indicated:

(a) Aberthaw Power Station All year

All tidal water enclosed by a line drawn at a radius of 1 nautical mile from Breaksea Point (Map a).


Map (A)
 

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You can fish the nurseries from the shore but not from boats.

Mudwallower, you need Ian Houlton down there, he would have swam to the nets,knife in mouth,gellignite(spelling) in pocket. he would then cut up the net and blow up the boat, !!!!Probrably!!!

If only Calsberg was in charge of the fishing.
 

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thanks radio. it used to be very good for bass. because of the hot water coming out of there, we always returned the schoolies thow, but unfortunately not all the anglers did. there were some rows down there. people were keeping them 6 and 7 inches long. ridiculous or what?
 

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There's more information about this in the excellent seafishingwales Sea Bass booklet (can be obtained at www.fishing.visitwales.com) - technically you can fish from the shore in nursery areas BUT it is expected that shore anglers will respect the need for this prohibition and return any bass caught in these areas.
 

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Thanks for the replies guys. Biogenisis, thanks for the address, have e mailed him and made my photos available should he want them. It really does make my blood boil when I see a guy showing such blatant disregard for this law. He knew what he was doing was wrong, and has no thought that he could be destroying his catch potential forever too.
Would have replied sooner but Ive been hauling so many hounds I too exhausted to type ;) :D
 

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If you have no luck with officials, Go public with it, the local rags love a good story especially if accompanied with pictures.

It is a subject that is bound to cause a lot of controversy but us recreational anglers have to abide by the rules, so should they
 

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excellent thread !hopefully everyone will read this one and realise that the bass wont last forever, if we take whatever we can every time we go fishing ,an analagy that was told to me by a very experienced fisherman was ,a farmer can't go out in his field one day and shoot all his cows in the name of sport, and go back there the next day with his mate and look for some more to shoot !when they're gone they're gone!!
 
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Hi all poster!

I fish from stout regular with my own boat out of Barry and have nearly run into these nets withorange bouys!
There are there every weekend and he just lets them drift from Aberthaw down chamnnel and back all day - leathal in bad seas when you cant see them properly.

Thought he was after the Bass now I realise.

So I take it that if I cut them off I would get some support then hey?

I have seen the boat too but did not think to take down the name - will do this weekend if he's there though.

Will let you know next time I am down there - should be Sunday.

Are we sure it's illegal bass nets?


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:D would gladly sit on yer boat just to drop in the water to cut the nets < used to do marine security. always up or a little fun;)
 

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You could always phone the environment agencey hot line and report things as you witness them, I phoned in a oil spill at aberavon a few weeks back and the guy on the phone turned up an hour or so later.... cant remember the number off hand but I'm sure their web site will have in posted
 

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Hi all, :D

went down on Sunday and seen the nets - 3 of them this time, 6 orange buoys - and when I returned from the nash guess what!! - they were on the rocks to the west of the outfalls! someone was there looking at them but there was no way that a boat could have retrieved them you would have to be on the shore.

Oh well maybe that's the last time we will see them.

I will keep you all posted - bye for now -

poppajoe :)
 

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Hi all, I'm new to this site and have followed this thread with interest. I work at the power station, and am aware of these orange buoys. The boat responsible is the "Provider" from Penarth mariner. The EA informed me last year that the owner has a permit for lobster/crab pots within the nursery area. I will check at low tide to see if there are any nets and arrange for their removal.
 
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