thanks richy,had a panic on with me camper had it in bits fixin a water leak only found it last night, thoought the trip was doomed anyway got sorted all systems go should b up there 2 morrow dinner............cheers ****richy said:Im going tomorrow! bait from newton stewart or erics at stranraer , as for marks abbey head , and the bay at kicubright for bass and flounders a good article in last monthssea angler about the mullet round whithorn seems to be loads . Might see you there