[Overki11]

Hi all, before i take my rod to my local tackle shop for a bit of work to be done and so that i don't get taken for a mug i am after a bit of advise.
I have a RT Axcellerator rod for rough ground and it's set up is for a multi but i have been using my fixed spool which has worked well and no major problems but recently the inner ceramic on one of the rings got damaged. Was thinking of just getting the one guide replaced but now i'm thinking of getting the whole rod set up for my fixed spool, obviously depending on cost determines the way i go.
The main thing is is to which sort of guide/ring setup would be best, for example Fuji bkway.... low riders and would all guides have to be replaced? Read a few comments on previous posts but still seems unclear! I know for sure the main butt ring needs to be replaced to bigger 40/50 size but unsure about the rest and repositioning of the guides.
At least i would be a little more on the ball when the tackle shop tries to explain what i need etc and not trying to rip me off.

Cheers

 

[CRB]

Getting a set might be quite expensive but if cost is not a problem for you then perhaps you could go for Fuji concept guides which is more suited for fixed spool. But ..there is a big but in this... as your Rt Axellerator rod is set for a multiplier.. to change the setup for a fixed spool..you would need to place the guides and the reel seat on opposite to the original position of the rod. Before a rod is built.. manufacturers and rod builders need to find the spine/backbone of the blank/rod. To explain this would take sometime.. best to google it and you will find lots of videos and explanation why this is important. This will also effect your casting.

 

[Overki11]

Thanks CRB, I think that's were things are getting confusing with past post as several comments have mentioned this while others have said there's no need to reposition the guides on the back so to speak.
Understand what your saying and it means sense etc, the reel seat is no problem as it's a Fuji sliding seat so that wouldn't be a problem. Haven't really had chance to fully test the strength of the rod at its present condition, lack of big fish lol. Casting wise with the fixed spool I would say yes obviously losing a bit of distance but never had ring wrap etc but piece of mind with at least a 40 on the butt ring would help.
I guess, see what the tackle shop has to say but at least that's now a question I can ask. Cost wise, don't really want to spend over £100 if that's the case best stick to replacing the damaged second guide and leave it as a multi setup.

 

[STAN M]

That assumes of course that the guides were put in the right position in relation the the spine in the first place. Not all do, in fact more of the big names don`t than do, (I exclude Century, Zzippie, Connie and Harrison) Those made in the far East, most of the time they could not care less.

 

[Luisra]

Overki11, the spine in rod is important because under load, the rod will naturally try to twist and roll to the softer "spine", so for a beachcasting multiplier rod, the rod will have a better feel to the cast if the guides are on the soft side. For a fixed spool pendulum rod, the guides go on the "hard" side, as the reel faces up on the power stroke. For a fixed spool backcasting rod, the guides are on the soft side, as the cast is made with the reel underneath the rod. For a multiplier backcasting rod, some casters have the reel facing up, and some underneath when setting up the cast, so it depends on which preference! For a downtide boat rod, the most strain the rod will be asked to do, is when hauling in fish, so the guides for a multiplier will go on the hard side of the spine, as the rod will not try to roll over in your hands under load.

 

[Overki11]

Thanks all, does sound as though it could be costly but all makes sense and I'm hoping that Stan M is right. As it's a stiff rod, think I will let a mate have a few casts with it as he can use both fixed and multI reels and see if he finds any difference when casting and not worry about distance but to see if there's any difference with the bend on the rod. That might be worth a go before I take it to the shop.