multiplier reels - casting
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Lo Beef - was asking the same question myself a month or two ago .....
a few responses that were posted below ....
http://www.worldseafishing.com/forums/showthread.php?t=717
http://www.worldseafishing.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1040
(still getting the odd nest when I forget to use my thumb - but I'm getting better)
a few responses that were posted below ....
http://www.worldseafishing.com/forums/showthread.php?t=717
http://www.worldseafishing.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1040
(still getting the odd nest when I forget to use my thumb - but I'm getting better)
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Hi there,
First off all this is my first thread on this site as i'm a new member.
Anyway first of all whats the make of the reel?
First off all this is my first thread on this site as i'm a new member.
Anyway first of all whats the make of the reel?
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Drew,
whats the make of the reel?
whats the make of the reel?
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First of all you have to make sure that the reel has been set up correctly for your use. I you find that your always getting overuns then apply a little more brake until you get used to it.
Make sure the line is layed on the spool nice and evenly and use 15-18lb.Dont forget to always use a shock leader, they recommend 10lb for every oz of lead, so if using a 5oz lead you will need 50lb shock leader and so on.As you dont really know the service history of the reel it would be advisable to have the reel serviced, this will ensure that there are no underlying faults with the reel that you may not be aware of.One of the main reasons for overuns is the removal of the centrifugal brake blocks, make sure that they are ALL in place until you get used to the reel, and maybe then you might be able to get away with removing one. But to be honest they are there for a reason and by removing them will make the reel like a ferrari, if you cant handle it your loose control and experience overuns and major snapoffs quite often, also this could damage the the main spindle and ultimately render the reel useless.
High speed multiplier reels are precision pieces of equipment and should be looked after with great care, I always rinse mine in cold tap water after every session thats why they still look brand new even after many years.
Phil Hyde from Paignton does casting lessons on goodrington beach most Saturdays, I think its free but not sure, this would be a great advantage cos he will show you the correct way to cast. I might even go down and have some myself again just to polish up on the pendulum style.
Hope this advise is what your looking for.
Regards Nigel.
Make sure the line is layed on the spool nice and evenly and use 15-18lb.Dont forget to always use a shock leader, they recommend 10lb for every oz of lead, so if using a 5oz lead you will need 50lb shock leader and so on.As you dont really know the service history of the reel it would be advisable to have the reel serviced, this will ensure that there are no underlying faults with the reel that you may not be aware of.One of the main reasons for overuns is the removal of the centrifugal brake blocks, make sure that they are ALL in place until you get used to the reel, and maybe then you might be able to get away with removing one. But to be honest they are there for a reason and by removing them will make the reel like a ferrari, if you cant handle it your loose control and experience overuns and major snapoffs quite often, also this could damage the the main spindle and ultimately render the reel useless.
High speed multiplier reels are precision pieces of equipment and should be looked after with great care, I always rinse mine in cold tap water after every session thats why they still look brand new even after many years.
Phil Hyde from Paignton does casting lessons on goodrington beach most Saturdays, I think its free but not sure, this would be a great advantage cos he will show you the correct way to cast. I might even go down and have some myself again just to polish up on the pendulum style.
Hope this advise is what your looking for.
Regards Nigel.
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You'll be a long time fishing with it so slow down! You've had some good advive re: safety but decide that you want to just cast a short way without a birdy! A tip might be to use heavy line 'til you get used to it. This will produce more friction than light 15lb stuff and if you've got some 30lb stuff AND you are not going to swing so fast you can get away without having to use a shockleader. Choose a deserted bit of beach (for the safety of others!) and just have a go, ... SLOWLY. Tape up your thumb and USE it to dab at the spool. Eventually you'll be using it less and enjoying the sensation. It's all about confidence and not feeling that you're making a fool of your self. When it gets more fluent you can go for thinner stuff and a shockleader. I found my 'style' (now THERE is a laugh) because I was using 35lb braid and just trying to lob it 50yds. Suddenly it was great and I could hear the spool spinning faster and the magnets beginning to work and 100yds being reached.
My old Abu's got a levelwind so the thumb bit was painful. What I used to do was to tighten up the spool end bearings (not really recommended as wear results) but I was learning. The end bearings are there to CENTRE the spool not to slow it down but heck try them if you are not getting anywhere. If your reel uses centrifugal blocks make sure they are fitted (as some one has already said) and don't be tempted to remove them until you feel really confident.
Try for 60yds before 160! Good luck!
My old Abu's got a levelwind so the thumb bit was painful. What I used to do was to tighten up the spool end bearings (not really recommended as wear results) but I was learning. The end bearings are there to CENTRE the spool not to slow it down but heck try them if you are not getting anywhere. If your reel uses centrifugal blocks make sure they are fitted (as some one has already said) and don't be tempted to remove them until you feel really confident.
Try for 60yds before 160! Good luck!
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·You could also call Sea Angler magazine for a coach living close to you. They give you a number, then you call the coach and he comes and shows the ropes, practices with you for free -- but its nice to be generous and offer a couple of pints or cigars, a meal, or whatever... Alternatively go to John Holden's site and purchase the CD Rom he has with the 'old' casting video or the new one in steps where a newer video is broken into steps. I got both. These have improved our casting greatly. From 9/10 birdsnests with the centrifugal brakes on when I started, I now get about 1/20 or + with a single small brake block, hardly any centrifugal resistance without wind.
I still need to go further as I like casting almost as much as fishing.
I'd love fishing much more only if these training exercises and videos could also improve on my catches :-(
[Having not had the best week on Chesil Beach ;-) ]
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Izzy
I still need to go further as I like casting almost as much as fishing.
I'd love fishing much more only if these training exercises and videos could also improve on my catches :-(
[Having not had the best week on Chesil Beach ;-) ]
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Izzy
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I personally wouldnt bother with SEA ANGLER.
I e-mailed Mel Russ the other week about a problem and he hasnt even had the courtasy to get back to me.
I think alot of these people have got there heads too far up there own asses.
I hate to slag them off but all my mates think the same too.
I e-mailed Mel Russ the other week about a problem and he hasnt even had the courtasy to get back to me.
I think alot of these people have got there heads too far up there own asses.
I hate to slag them off but all my mates think the same too.
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Hi Pixie,
As much as I hate the Sea Angler Magazine, I have found that their Casting Instructor service is first class.
Many years ago I telephoned to ask a question, and like you they said they would ring back, I was amazed that within the hour Neil 'Mackello'? phoned and offered to take me fishing and give me instructions free of charge. Needless to say I could'nt make his date and had to decline, but at least the offer was made.
Cheers
Drew
As much as I hate the Sea Angler Magazine, I have found that their Casting Instructor service is first class.
Many years ago I telephoned to ask a question, and like you they said they would ring back, I was amazed that within the hour Neil 'Mackello'? phoned and offered to take me fishing and give me instructions free of charge. Needless to say I could'nt make his date and had to decline, but at least the offer was made.
Cheers
Drew
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Well that is pretty good I must say, I'm lucky in the casting dept. as Phil Hyde lives in the next town to me.
Shame you couldnt make it though, anything free these days is a blessing.
Tight lines
Nigel.
Shame you couldnt make it though, anything free these days is a blessing.
Tight lines
Nigel.
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Tell me your not serious about leaving the ratchet on, even of it did work (which I doubt it would), think about the other anglers around you.
Can you just imagine the noise it would make.
If someone was doing this next to me I would have to have a word.
Can you just imagine the noise it would make.
If someone was doing this next to me I would have to have a word.
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mate if u from south wales it may be worth u trying this site www.gowerrockhoopers.co.uk as they are starting casting lessons at the end of april.
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they are a top group of boys. also has good forum to, however nowwhere near as good as this (mainly specialise in bass fishing or gower area).
hope this helps,
kelvin
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they are a top group of boys. also has good forum to, however nowwhere near as good as this (mainly specialise in bass fishing or gower area).
hope this helps,
kelvin
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