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Have always been a "Thigh Wader" angler myself, but some recent visits to the river Ogmore estuary, rubbing shoulders with more appropriately dressed "Chest Wader" officianado's, plus an absolute drenching around the nether regions whilst fishing low water of a very active, big spring tide (not my usual choice of tide) was the final straw. Working on the premise that you can't take it with you, I called into Keens and purchased for myself an (Xtra Large) pair of Mustad Neoprene chest waders. They looked and felt good during a dry run "dressing", but I was impatient to give them the "salt water" test. A nice feature on these chest waders, is the zip and gusset at the top front which when unzipped, opens out to give extra freedom of movement when getting into and out of them. Checking the local weather forecast for today (Monday), strong southerly moving round to westerly by the time of low water in the evening, plus an assessment of the water movement during a lunchtime walk from the estuary car park to the Deeps, ticked almost all the boxes. I say almost, because there was a definite band of light brown tinted water stretching out from the shoreline, a sure sign that the bass were going to be thin on the ground to non existent. I liked the look of the wave action so made the decision to return to the estuary at the time of the evening low water, much against my better judgement, in the desperate hope that the curtain of silted water would have disperced. In my heart of hearts, I knew the bassing would be a disaster, but the overwhelming desire to test my new chest waders put me in "denial" mode.
I was right about the bassing, not even a touch on some excellent crab, expected but still disappointing. The pristine, new chest waders kept me dry and warm so something had been achieved. The incoming surf was thick with "suspended solids", the only possible remedy being a good storm to get some oxygen into the water. There was one other angler standing in the surf , holding his rod, on the Newton side of the estuary. On the way back to the car, I stopped off to talk to two other anglers who had had some contact with small flounders, on worm baits. The guy across the river had told them that he had caught a 7 lb. plus bass, but no mention was made of when. It was a lovely evening, white cloud above, obliterating any detrimental effects of the waning sun, a really good surf action (albeit dirty), the warm air carried on the strong westerly was comforting. No fish but never the less, a couple of hours of pleasing sensations, sponsoring some happy memories of Days gone by.

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Lovely tale there Derek, reading that I could imagine me being there!

You know more than anyone, keep at it and they will come!

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Good morning, poppajoe and thank you for your comments. Pleased to read that you enjoyed the story. It looks like back to normal, weather wise today, but I have to admit that overcast skies and drizzle are good omens for the bass fishing. Definitely not so many of them about these days, but maybe, one day before it is too late, conservation measures will be introduced to secure the basses future?
I have just finished writing a new blog "Smooth hound fishing in South East Wales" which should be published towards the end of this week.
Here is a species that is not only surviving but multiplying and the main reason for its success is that it has no value as a food source, commercially or with anglers, with the result that they are left alone and most rod and line captures are returned alive and well.

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unlucky on the blank ticka perhaps this bit of weather will make the difference has you say. its nice to see you catching on the fashion front.waiting for new blog always good reading and informitive
 

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According to the BBC 5 day weather forecast (if it can be believed), Grogg, Thursday is white cloud possibly turning to light rain in the evening. low water circa 9.00 pm (HW 32.1 ft tide), wind 10 mph/ WSW, Friday is light rain during the day, turning to grey cloud for the evening. Low water is 10.32 p.m (HW 33.2 ft tide) wind is 12 mph/ WSW. I will be keeping a close eye on the water colour in the hope that it becomes clearer, via our regular afternoon walks. I may take advantage of an early morning low water seeing as it is very small tides. I am not short of good bait in the freezer, all tied up and prepared, and attached to the hook and snood. I may join you on one of the evenings, failing this, I will be interested to read how you get on.

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Hello Derek good to see you have something to keep the crown jewels dry and warm! Bit of a bother I should imagine if the bladder needs emptying though? anyhow tight lines I'm jealous at the moment stuck on a jackup barge in Zeebrugge!
 

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i do enjoy reading your posts,as i always say a blank post is just as informative than a big catch report,as most of the time im ready to just up and go when ever i get the nod ,thats not very often mind but for them that do nod thanks.
my wader a i think glued to me as i seem to be always in them,they are part of me i think,lol cant do without them and on the bait collecting you can get in them pools where others dare to tread.i will be fishing lures this weekend up west after mr spikey but i do love that feeling holding your rod waiting for that moment when your rod arches over,if anybody else feels the same way when the bass are a bit thin on the ground try golden greys awsome fishing ,anyway must stop myself going on as i am getting excited and might wet myself.to all you nodders out there tight lines roamer jeff.
ps i still enjoy myself blank or no blank.
 

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According to the BBC 5 day weather forecast (if it can be believed), Grogg, Thursday is white cloud possibly turning to light rain in the evening. low water circa 9.00 pm (HW 32.1 ft tide), wind 10 mph/ WSW, Friday is light rain during the day, turning to grey cloud for the evening. Low water is 10.32 p.m (HW 33.2 ft tide) wind is 12 mph/ WSW. I will be keeping a close eye on the water colour in the hope that it becomes clearer, via our regular afternoon walks. I may take advantage of an early morning low water seeing as it is very small tides. I am not short of good bait in the freezer, all tied up and prepared, and attached to the hook and snood. I may join you on one of the evenings, failing this, I will be interested to read how you get on.

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Nice one Derek, I can do either early morning or evening so let me know what suits you. I am all baited up and ready to go too.
 

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I have double checked the weather forecast against the Met offices offering with the following results. The Met Office reads as follows:
(For the local CF area)

Thursday evening (19th. Aug) Light rain, 6 mph/ SW
Friday evening (20th. Aug) Dark Cloud, 13 mph / WSW

I am awaiting delivery of the matching, waterproof coat for my "Chest waders" (In for a penny etc as they say!!) so at the moment any sign of rain and "I'm out, a la Dragons Den". If I am properly kitted out for Thursday and Friday,my fishing pattern would go something like this:

Thursday evening (LW circa 9.00 pm), the wind is from a good direction but too light (6 mph) for any real, confident bassing, apart from an odd mature one roaming. I fancy taking the lightest rod in my armoury, the Abu 1750A little mutiplier loaded with 4 or 6 lb line plus leader, size 1 hook (sharpened) on a running leger, 1 or 2 ounce lead, Mudworms for bait, and having a serious go at the Flounder for an hour or two.
Water colour won't be an issue.

Friday evening (LW, circa 10.30 pm) the wind is stronger at 13 mph/ WSW, overcast, dark cloud with the threat of rain, more promising on the bass front, but very much dependent on how "clean" the water is. My experience has been that they are reluctant to move into heavily silted water, because the "solids in suspension" are an irritant when passing over their rakers. (As normal, Crab for bait)

For me, both scenarios are dependent on the arrival of my waterproof coat but should all things pan out as expected, and can get hold of
some mudworms, that is how I would approach the two evening sessions on the weather information available.

As usual in these cases, the decision will be short notice, Chris, as you know, so will keep you posted.

By the way, Chris, the Wife and I have bought two bicycles from Halfords. Have been having a couple of practice runs in Margam Park where you can hire a bike for 拢2.50 per hour, good value. My first ride on the bike for over 55 years. The first outing was a bit of a wobbly disaster, but the second visit resulted in a confident 2 circuits of the course in the Park through the beautiful countryside, in close contact with the deer. Very pleasing.

Even if I can't make it, these scenarios could (no guarantees) be rewarding.

Will let you know my decision, Chris.

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Chris (Grogg)

I have double checked the weather forecast against the Met offices offering with the following results. The Met Office reads as follows:
(For the local CF area)

Thursday evening (19th. Aug) Light rain, 6 mph/ SW
Friday evening (20th. Aug) Dark Cloud, 13 mph / WSW

I am awaiting delivery of the matching, waterproof coat for my "Chest waders" (In for a penny etc as they say!!) so at the moment any sign of rain and "I'm out, a la Dragons Den". If I am properly kitted out for Thursday and Friday,my fishing pattern would go something like this:

Thursday evening (LW circa 9.00 pm), the wind is from a good direction but too light (6 mph) for any real, confident bassing, apart from an odd mature one roaming. I fancy taking the lightest rod in my armoury, the Abu 1750A little mutiplier loaded with 4 or 6 lb line plus leader, size 1 hook (sharpened) on a running leger, 1 or 2 ounce lead, Mudworms for bait, and having a serious go at the Flounder for an hour or two.
Water colour won't be an issue.

Friday evening (LW, circa 10.30 pm) the wind is stronger at 13 mph/ WSW, overcast, dark cloud with the threat of rain, more promising on the bass front, but very much dependent on how "clean" the water is. My experience has been that they are reluctant to move into heavily silted water, because the "solids in suspension" are an irritant when passing over their rakers. (As normal, Crab for bait)

For me, both scenarios are dependent on the arrival of my waterproof coat but should all things pan out as expected, and can get hold of
some mudworms, that is how I would approach the two evening sessions on the weather information available.

As usual in these cases, the decision will be short notice, Chris, as you know, so will keep you posted.

By the way, Chris, the Wife and I have bought two bicycles from Halfords. Have been having a couple of practice runs in Margam Park where you can hire a bike for 拢2.50 per hour, good value. My first ride on the bike for over 55 years. The first outing was a bit of a wobbly disaster, but the second visit resulted in a confident 2 circuits of the course in the Park through the beautiful countryside, in close contact with the deer. Very pleasing.

Even if I can't make it, these scenarios could (no guarantees) be rewarding.

Will let you know my decision, Chris.

Regards

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Excellent Derek, just call or pm, I can do short notice.

Where will you get the mudrag from, are they doing it at Keens now?

I will have the light gear set up for both bass and flounder so that I have both options available depending on the weather. Both evenings are ok for me, although I may give it a bash Thursday morning if the conditions are condusive!

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Chris, just to let you know, Keens have got mudworms in at the moment but they are going out fast. I have bought half a pound and there are more than enough worms for you and me. They are excellent worms, firm amd good size. I have put them in a small carton containing compost, then in the freezer bag with 1 x ice block just to keep them cool not cold. Bought some new 6 lb. line, only .200 mm diam. and have decided to load up my spare spool for the Abu 2100 Sport, instead of changing the line on the 1750 A. Should be ructions if hit into a bass on this tackle because you can only control the 2100 on the thumb. Looking forward to tomorrow evening which looks like the most likely date.

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Grog (Chris), have just checked the updated weather forecasts on both the Met office and BBC websites. This is the latest for Thursday and Friday. It is worth checking both forecasts at frequent intervals to pick up any changes.

If we fish low water in the evening for Thursday or Friday, this is the forecast for that period.

Thursday 1900 into night, rain to heavy rain, wind WSW / 10 to 13 mph.

Friday 1900 into night, rain to heavy rain, wind SW/ 10 to 12 mph.

Although there is a slight increase in the wind speed, I will still be aiming to fish for flounders with mudworm, but will also take some frozen crab and the bass outfit just in case actual circumstances on the beach signal different, at least we will have a choice.
The common thread between the two forecasts is heavy rain, so sound waterproofs are going to be a must for comfort. As low water is circa 8.45 to 9.00 pm meet between 7.00 and 7.30pm. By the time we get dressed up and prepare the gear it will be getting on for 8 ish, so a half hour to low water before the new flood could be worth the effort. By the way, the parking charge is 拢2.00 after 4.00 pm. up until 11.00 pm, I think.

I am feeling quite boyed up at the moment and enthusiastic. Just about to load up the spare 2100 spool with 6 lb line, bag up all necessary bits and then I can relax.

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Just on the off chance that any member is considering a trip to Ogmore estuary this evening, I have the update on the weather forecast for the evening (Thursday) as confirmed on the Met Office and BBC.

Thurday Evening.

1900 (pm) Heavy Rain ESE / 15 mph.
2200 (pm) Heavy Rain S / 10 mph.
0100 (am) Heavy Rain SSW/ 13 mph.

I do not assess the wind as too much of a problem, but the persistent "Heavy Rain" could be a deterrent.

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Grog (Chris), have just checked the updated weather forecasts on both the Met office and BBC websites. This is the latest for Thursday and Friday. It is worth checking both forecasts at frequent intervals to pick up any changes.

If we fish low water in the evening for Thursday or Friday, this is the forecast for that period.

Thursday 1900 into night, rain to heavy rain, wind WSW / 10 to 13 mph.

Friday 1900 into night, rain to heavy rain, wind SW/ 10 to 12 mph.

Although there is a slight increase in the wind speed, I will still be aiming to fish for flounders with mudworm, but will also take some frozen crab and the bass outfit just in case actual circumstances on the beach signal different, at least we will have a choice.
The common thread between the two forecasts is heavy rain, so sound waterproofs are going to be a must for comfort. As low water is circa 8.45 to 9.00 pm thursday evening, If you agree, I suggest we meet in the car park between 7.00 and 7.30pm. By the time we get dressed up and prepare the gear it will be getting on for 8 ish, so a half hour to low water before the new flood could be worth the effort. By the way, there is no parking charge after 4.00 pm., so we can fish with a clear conscience. I will be parking to the right of the Lifeguards building,(looking out to sea) on the tarmacced space, found it easier and cleaner to dress and undress in and out of the Chest waders. Reduces the risk of getting them covered in the loose dust. The only possible concern is car security, so the best thing to do is to put any bits and pieces out of site in the boot..what the eye can't see etc,.

I am feeling quite boyed up at the moment and enthusiastic. Just about to load up the spare 2100 spool with 6 lb line, bag up all necessary bits and then I can relax.

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The rain won't bother me in Ocean chesties and Snowbee wader jacket. Nothing is coming through that lot. The car alarm is armed and very alarming it is too. That and the torrential rain should put most numpties off messing about with cars not worth the effort.

I'll take a light rod and spinning reel with options for bass and flounder rigs.

See you later.

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Likewise, Chris, with the light rod, change reel choice to the small Abu Garcia 1000, a bit of lee way if lucky enough to be hit by a bass, yet won't overpower a good flounder. 2 ounce, no grip leads max. Will put a couple of frozen crabs in for luck, but will fish the mudworms, after all, Flounders are the target.

By the way, picked up the new bikes this morning, a bit of a delay due to problems with the cycle roof rack. You never know, maybe I will be pedalling down to the coast one day. Had a friend, back in the 60's/ 70's, a very good bass angler, for whom I custom built a one piece 13 ft Bass rod (Fixed Spool) which he used to strap on his cross bar, and regularly cylcle to his marks in Ogmore and Porthcawl.

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